October 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30516

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>>>> >>>> >>>> The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ? >>>> Is there another place to see the same information ? >>>> >>> Yes, the commit mail from Git. >>> >>> Normally I don't send this mail anymore. >> >> OK, I guess it is all a lot of work, but they were a very useful summary. >> > > the content is in the git mail, too. That's why I wonder if sending it twice makes sense. I will continue to send them when I integrate changes. And wait that everything else works for real. >>>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 30516 >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> 11694 Trait methods wrong after recompiling the image >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11694 >>>>> >>>>> Diff information: >>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Traits-MarcusDenker.584.diff >>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenke… >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Benjamin

off-topic: Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ? Cause I can not properly delete messages :( Ben On 23 Oct 2013, at 13:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The good new is that my trusty VM [1] is still working OK ! > > However, something seems to have changed regarding full screen mode: it more or less works but there are two black bands and the window title remains visible, it is as if it did not expand enough: > > <Screen Shot 2013-10-23 at 13.40.56.png> > > Which is a pity: I rely on this a lot to get more screen space on my 13 inch screen and to work distraction free. > > I guess weâll have to wait for our hero Esteban to have a look. > > Also new is the focus on energy management and efficiency. Sadly Pharo is flagged as using to much (look at the menu under the battery icon top right and the energy tab in the activity monitor): > > <Screen Shot 2013-10-23 at 13.49.53.png> > > This is probably related to the busy thread running/polling every ms or so inside the VM. > > I could turn these into issues. > > Sven > > [1] > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > > Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< > VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi StÃ©phane, > > It is actually even simpler, you can use either: > > ZnEasy get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > or: > > ZnClient new > get: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'. > > They return slightly different things, in the first case the response object, in the second case the actual contents. Look for users of ZnClient in the system and tests for tons of examples. > > HTH, > > Sven > > On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:46, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> hi sven >> >> I would like to fetch a file stored on github >> >> ZnEasy client >> url: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics…'; >> get; >> response >> >> Else I tried to read zodiac code but I missed some examples. >> I tried to read the tests but I failed. >> >> Stef >> >> >> > >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use it. Let me know if that is incorrect. > > > The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo as backend. > It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different backend(s), like opengl etc. But Athens is an API so the idea is that we should be able to switch to other rendering back-end wtihout been forced to rewrite everything. > > I was wondering for what VMs Athens is applicable. Would it automatically work on Linux? I've also been using Pharo / Squeak on the iPad. Would Athens work there or would the VM have to be changed? > > For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens. > As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it, but i am not expert in iOS > to say if it can be done without much fuss. > Also, since iOS is famous for banning any applications which using generated code, > that means it should be done by writing a VM plugin and then adopting new primitives to > work with Athens API. Igor it also means that we should find a way to get nativeboost wroking on iPad (probably by generating a "DLL" from NB). >

Oct. 23, 2013

Pharo on Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi, This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The good new is that my trusty VM [1] is still working OK ! However, something seems to have changed regarding full screen mode: it more or less works but there are two black bands and the window title remains visible, it is as if it did not expand enough: Which is a pity: I rely on this a lot to get more screen space on my 13 inch screen and to work distraction free. I guess weâll have to wait for our hero Esteban to have a look. Also new is the focus on energy management and efficiency. Sadly Pharo is flagged as using to much (look at the menu under the battery icon top right and the energy tab in the activity monitor): This is probably related to the busy thread running/polling every ms or so inside the VM. I could turn these into issues. Sven [1] Virtual Machine --------------- /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org. >>> >>> This is what should be written in the readme. >> >> BTW have you tried that you actually have access to the machine? >> Because I remember that it didn't work for you nor Esteban... > > > So stef, did you check that you can actually edit the file? I cannot access it but I least I know that I should not look for it. And next time if there is a problem I just stop integrated and continue hacking on my cool stuff and look smart. Stef > Otherwise you will run into exactly the same trouble the next time...

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'll remove the script again, this is silly duplication that is going to be > outdated very quickly. It points already to the jenkins job, this is where > everything happens. so I will readd it. Camillo can you respect people that do not think like you? Stef > > On 2013-10-22, at 08:38, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I changed the readme to be >> >> Pharo 3.0 Update Files >> ====================== >> >> This repository contains a collection of the updates files used for the system-updates of Pharo 3.0. >> The files are made available on the [file server](http://files.pharo.org/updates/pharo3.0/). >> The [updates30.list](updates30.list) is contains a list of all update files and is generated by a [jenkins job](https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-3-Release/). >> >> Do not touch these files manually if you do not know what you are doing. >> Read the class comments of the `ScriptLoader` class for a complete description of the Pharo integration process. >> >> >> Here is a bit of an explanation of how the staged and update.list are merged: this is the script of the jenkins job >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-3-Release/ >> >> >> ./pharo Pharo.image eval " >> updates := (ZnEasy get: 'http://files.pharo.org/updates/pharo3.0/updates30.list') contents lines. >> updates := updates reject: [ :each | each beginsWith: '#' ]. >> >> staged := 'updates30.staged' asFileReference readStream contents asString lines. >> staged := staged reject: [ :each | each beginsWith: '#' ]. >> >> updates := (updates, staged) asSet asArray sorted. >> >> 'updates30.list' asFileReference ensureDeleted writeStreamDo: [ :output | >> >> output nextPutAll: '#Pharo3.0'; cr. >> updates do: [ :each | >> output nextPutAll: each; cr ]]. >> >> Smalltalk snapshot: false andQuit: true." >> >> >> The update30.list file is generated on the server and in case of emergency this is the way to modify it. >> >> ssh file-pharo.inria.fr >> sudo su - filepharosync >> cd /appli/files.pharo.org/updates/pharo3.0/ >> vi updates30.list >> >> Good luck because you should not need it at all. >> >> >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] The new fogbugz mails look nice :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

where? I want to see it and get brainwashed and start fixing bugs :) Stef On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > that would be cool ;) > > Ben > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> One would almost start fixing things, just to see them ;-) >> >> On 22 Oct 2013, at 15:08, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Just to say :P >>> >>> Ben >>> >> >> >

Oct. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

by Igor Stasenko

On 23 October 2013 08:12, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo >> as backend. >> It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different >> backend(s), like opengl etc. >> > > Excellent. I'm mainly using Linux. > > >> For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens. >> As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it, but >> i am not expert in iOS >> to say if it can be done without much fuss. >> Also, since iOS is famous for banning any applications which using >> generated code, >> that means it should be done by writing a VM plugin and then adopting new >> primitives to >> work with Athens API. >> > > While I would love to use such a thing on iOS, I'm afraid that VM making > is beyond me. That said, if somebody does it, I do have a few multi-touch > tools, such as a keyboard, that I'd be willing to port to it. > > Increasingly, touch based machines are going to replace mouse based > machines as the dominant paradigm. > Mouse i much more precise than fingers. I doubt it going to be replaced. I think it will stay. > If we can create a great development environment for touch, we'd have a > good chance to really invent the future. Graphic processor accelerated > graphics are part of that. A rewrite of the events infrastructure, both to > simply the current mess and to add touch support, is part of that. > > Yes, what interesting that morphic from the very beginning supports multiple hands concept, which fits well with multitouch. Of course you need to handle things a bit different, but still it is good basement. > Cheers, > > Jeff > > -- > Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. > http://www.je77.com/ > Skype ID: jochenrick > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Oct. 23, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/30517 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Oct. 23, 2013