October 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] About configuration of image projects

by Pavel Krivanek

what about start with this and only update packages and repositories? Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; load. 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Please, can you create (update and put it to Pharo repositories) a >> ConfigurationOfMetacello? :-) > > That I do not know how to do it :) or I can simply create one based on what is in the image. > We should sync with dale. > > Stef > >> >> -- Pavel >> >> 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> Done with >>> ConfigurationOfAST (but could not really test it) >>> ConfigurationOfAST-Interperter (tx for the configuration - so cool when it is already there. >>> next >>> ConfigurationOfEnvironment >>> ConfigurationOfRefactoringEngine >>> >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> I started to work on creating configuration for all the projects inside the image >>>> >>>> RB >>>> Spec >>>> Zinc >>>> Ring >>>> OPAL >>>> AST >>>> Nautilus >>>> >>>> KeyMapping >>>> >>>> why because I want to be able to express the dependencies so that we get a modular system and that >>>> we can build it based on miniImage. >>>> >>>> So if you got some configuration in the past and your project got integrated in the image please let me know. >>>> >>>> - Pharo/ASMJit >>>> - Pharo/Fuel >>>> - Pharo/NativeBoost >>>> - Pharo/Athens >>>> Got them >>>> >>>> Stef >>> >>> >> > >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About configuration of image projects

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please, can you create (update and put it to Pharo repositories) a > ConfigurationOfMetacello? :-) That I do not know how to do it :) or I can simply create one based on what is in the image. We should sync with dale. Stef > > -- Pavel > > 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Done with >> ConfigurationOfAST (but could not really test it) >> ConfigurationOfAST-Interperter (tx for the configuration - so cool when it is already there. >> next >> ConfigurationOfEnvironment >> ConfigurationOfRefactoringEngine >> >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I started to work on creating configuration for all the projects inside the image >>> >>> RB >>> Spec >>> Zinc >>> Ring >>> OPAL >>> AST >>> Nautilus >>> >>> KeyMapping >>> >>> why because I want to be able to express the dependencies so that we get a modular system and that >>> we can build it based on miniImage. >>> >>> So if you got some configuration in the past and your project got integrated in the image please let me know. >>> >>> - Pharo/ASMJit >>> - Pharo/Fuel >>> - Pharo/NativeBoost >>> - Pharo/Athens >>> Got them >>> >>> Stef >> >> >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

tx pavel I will look at Ring too. Because I want to see why it is not a nice layer. But I see because for packages there is probably a need to have it there. On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For the Pharo Kernel I firstly in one job download the latest versions > of network packages and save it in a form of .st file. Then I load > them to the shrinked image. > > Network packages: > #('Zinc-Resource-Meta-Core' 'Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core' > 'Network-Kernel' 'Network-MIME' 'Network-UUID' 'Network-Url' > 'Network-URI' 'Network-Protocols' 'Zinc-HTTP' 'Zinc-Patch-HTTPSocket' > 'Settings-Network') > > MC and Gofer packages: > #( 'PackageInfo' 'System-FileRegistry' 'RPackage-Core' > 'RPackage-SystemIntegration' 'Monticello' 'MonticelloConfigurations' > 'Settings-Monticello' 'Ring-Monticello' 'Gofer-Core') > > To get the source code of the package I use: > ScriptLoader latestSource: packageName location: > 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main' > It uses Zinc and ZipArchive so we can modify the second stage that > loads MC and Gofer to do it directly. But for network packages we have > to use preexported source files. > > -- Pavel > > 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> >> >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About configuration of image projects

by Pavel Krivanek

Please, can you create (update and put it to Pharo repositories) a ConfigurationOfMetacello? :-) -- Pavel 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Done with > ConfigurationOfAST (but could not really test it) > ConfigurationOfAST-Interperter (tx for the configuration - so cool when it is already there. > next > ConfigurationOfEnvironment > ConfigurationOfRefactoringEngine > > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I started to work on creating configuration for all the projects inside the image >> >> RB >> Spec >> Zinc >> Ring >> OPAL >> AST >> Nautilus >> >> KeyMapping >> >> why because I want to be able to express the dependencies so that we get a modular system and that >> we can build it based on miniImage. >> >> So if you got some configuration in the past and your project got integrated in the image please let me know. >> >> - Pharo/ASMJit >> - Pharo/Fuel >> - Pharo/NativeBoost >> - Pharo/Athens >> Got them >> >> Stef > >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

by Pavel Krivanek

For the Pharo Kernel I firstly in one job download the latest versions of network packages and save it in a form of .st file. Then I load them to the shrinked image. Network packages: #('Zinc-Resource-Meta-Core' 'Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core' 'Network-Kernel' 'Network-MIME' 'Network-UUID' 'Network-Url' 'Network-URI' 'Network-Protocols' 'Zinc-HTTP' 'Zinc-Patch-HTTPSocket' 'Settings-Network') MC and Gofer packages: #( 'PackageInfo' 'System-FileRegistry' 'RPackage-Core' 'RPackage-SystemIntegration' 'Monticello' 'MonticelloConfigurations' 'Settings-Monticello' 'Ring-Monticello' 'Gofer-Core') To get the source code of the package I use: ScriptLoader latestSource: packageName location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main' It uses Zinc and ZipArchive so we can modify the second stage that loads MC and Gofer to do it directly. But for network packages we have to use preexported source files. -- Pavel 2013/10/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Did you know? : Useful feature in preferences browser...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

How cool is to have documentation :) Stef On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:27 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > I was playing w/ my preferences file and wondered how to set the preferences in the script (grew tired of looking in settings prefs window). > > So, I had a look in the Deep into Pharo book, page 70. > > "Now the question is how to find out that the desktop color setting is > declared in PolymorphSystemSettings and that the DefaultFonts class allows fonts > management? More generally where are all these settings declared and managed? > The answer is quite simple: just use the Settings Browser! As explained > in Section 5.2, cmd-b or double clicking on an item open a browser on the > declaration of the current setting node. You can also use the contextual menu > for that. Browsing the declaration will give you the target class (where the > preference variable is stored) and the selector for the preference value." > > Ah double clicking on a pref gives the preferences settings class. How cool is that? > > As I also have my own preference classes, this whole settings framework is pretty good indeed! > > Phil

Oct. 2, 2013

Did you know? : Useful feature in preferences browser...

by phil＠highoctane.be

I was playing w/ my preferences file and wondered how to set the preferences in the script (grew tired of looking in settings prefs window). So, I had a look in the Deep into Pharo book, page 70. "Now the question is how to find out that the desktop color setting is declared in PolymorphSystemSettings and that the DefaultFonts class allows fonts management? More generally where are all these settings declared and managed? The answer is quite simple: just use the Settings Browser! As explained in Section 5.2, cmd-b or double clicking on an item open a browser on the declaration of the current setting node. You can also use the contextual menu for that. Browsing the declaration will give you the target class (where the preference variable is stored) and the selector for the preference value." Ah double clicking on a pref gives the preferences settings class. How cool is that? As I also have my own preference classes, this whole settings framework is pretty good indeed! Phil

Oct. 2, 2013

what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About configuration of image projects

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Done with ConfigurationOfAST (but could not really test it) ConfigurationOfAST-Interperter (tx for the configuration - so cool when it is already there. next ConfigurationOfEnvironment ConfigurationOfRefactoringEngine On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I started to work on creating configuration for all the projects inside the image > > RB > Spec > Zinc > Ring > OPAL > AST > Nautilus > > KeyMapping > > why because I want to be able to express the dependencies so that we get a modular system and that > we can build it based on miniImage. > > So if you got some configuration in the past and your project got integrated in the image please let me know. > > - Pharo/ASMJit > - Pharo/Fuel > - Pharo/NativeBoost > - Pharo/Athens > Got them > > Stef

Oct. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About configuration of image projects

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:32 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's really cool. I guess it could be merged with the kernel bootstrap of Guille in order to create a full Pharo image from source. :) This is a long term plan :) :) Stef > > > 2013/10/1 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Hi guys > > I started to work on creating configuration for all the projects inside the image > > RB > Spec > Zinc > Ring > OPAL > AST > Nautilus > > KeyMapping > > why because I want to be able to express the dependencies so that we get a modular system and that > we can build it based on miniImage. > > So if you got some configuration in the past and your project got integrated in the image please let me know. > > - Pharo/ASMJit > - Pharo/Fuel > - Pharo/NativeBoost > - Pharo/Athens > Got them > > Stef >

Oct. 2, 2013