October 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] New project announcement: PROXimity

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Cool initiative, indeed. On 03 Oct 2013, at 11:12, Olivier Auverlot <olivier.auverlot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > why not ! it would be very cool to have an abstraction layer. The difficulty is to communicate with the virtualisation product. For Proxmox, it's easy because it uses HTTP but I don't know the other products. I think that most cloud/virtualization products have APIs that are essentially REST based underneath, but that does not yet make it easy. In the case of AWS EC2, for example, it is quite a challenge, with their signing and XML, although it can be done of course. > Le 3 oct. 2013 Ã 10:05, Christophe Demarey a Ã©crit : > >> Hi Olivier, >> >> Cool. >> Do you think it is possible to do a more generic Cloud interface in Pharo? >> I mean an API agnostic to the used cloud manage (proxmox, cloudstack, openstack, amazon)? There is a Java project called jclouds[1] that does that. >> It may be cool that other people can define more cloud providers. >> >> Regards, >> Christophe. >> >> [1] : http://jclouds.incubator.apache.org/ >> >> Le 3 oct. 2013 Ã 08:06, Olivier Auverlot a Ã©crit : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just started since 3 days to work on a new framework for Pharo. It's named "PROXimity". The goal of this framework is to control a Proxmox virtualization solution with Pharo. >>> >>> Proxmox uses a REST API. With Zinc and STON, it's very easy to give orders as creating a virtual machine, managing the boot and stop, etc. >>> >>> I'm working on this project because it is a subpart of another application but I think that it could interest other Pharo users (for example: seaside hosting). >>> >>> The first Pharo classes are published on SmalltalkHub. If you're interested and want join your forces with me, don't hesitate to contact me. >>> >>> >>> http://www.proxmox.com >>> >>> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_API >>> >>> Best regards >>> Olivier ;-) >>> >>> >>> >> >

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] New project announcement: PROXimity

by Olivier Auverlot

why not ! it would be very cool to have an abstraction layer. The difficulty is to communicate with the virtualisation product. For Proxmox, it's easy because it uses HTTP but I don't know the other products. Le 3 oct. 2013 Ã 10:05, Christophe Demarey a Ã©crit : > Hi Olivier, > > Cool. > Do you think it is possible to do a more generic Cloud interface in Pharo? > I mean an API agnostic to the used cloud manage (proxmox, cloudstack, openstack, amazon)? There is a Java project called jclouds[1] that does that. > It may be cool that other people can define more cloud providers. > > Regards, > Christophe. > > [1] : http://jclouds.incubator.apache.org/ > > Le 3 oct. 2013 Ã 08:06, Olivier Auverlot a Ã©crit : > >> Hi, >> >> I just started since 3 days to work on a new framework for Pharo. It's named "PROXimity". The goal of this framework is to control a Proxmox virtualization solution with Pharo. >> >> Proxmox uses a REST API. With Zinc and STON, it's very easy to give orders as creating a virtual machine, managing the boot and stop, etc. >> >> I'm working on this project because it is a subpart of another application but I think that it could interest other Pharo users (for example: seaside hosting). >> >> The first Pharo classes are published on SmalltalkHub. If you're interested and want join your forces with me, don't hesitate to contact me. >> >> >> http://www.proxmox.com >> >> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_API >> >> Best regards >> Olivier ;-) >> >> >> >

Oct. 3, 2013

Extra recompile menu in Nautilus

by phil＠highoctane.be

I grew tired of these recompiling issues popping up, so I added a menu in Nautilus by tge way of a (simple) plugin. Hey, that's not so hard to do and opens perspectives. I've put the thing on SmalltalkHub: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOExtras More to do there, but will do for me at the moment. Phil

Oct. 3, 2013

[update 3.0] #30440

by Marcus Denker

30440 ----- 11734 Clean up the Object>>#veryDeepCopyWith: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11734 11735 Addressing GreekEnvironment undeclared in MiniImage https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11735 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Traits-MarcusDenker.574.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Multilingual-TextConverterOth… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Multilingual-TextConversion-M… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1632.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Collections-Abstract-MarcusDe…

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any visualisation for Metacello?

by Christophe Demarey

Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/GToolkit/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGToolkit'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGToolkit) project development load. (Smalltalk at: #GTMetaceller) open. Le 2 oct. 2013 Ã 19:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > metaceller > in the moose image maybe > > On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have to deal with complex configurations involving Pier (and some of >> its plugins), Magritte, Voyage, Mongo and Seaside. There is a bug >> somewhere because I can't load all of that. Is there any tool that >> would show me a graph of the projects and their dependencies? If there >> is no graph, is there at least some place to get the information? I >> know the #record + #loadDirective combo, but I don't understand the >> result and it does not help. >> >> Best >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> > >

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] New project announcement: PROXimity

by Christophe Demarey

Hi Olivier, Cool. Do you think it is possible to do a more generic Cloud interface in Pharo? I mean an API agnostic to the used cloud manage (proxmox, cloudstack, openstack, amazon)? There is a Java project called jclouds[1] that does that. It may be cool that other people can define more cloud providers. Regards, Christophe. [1] : http://jclouds.incubator.apache.org/ Le 3 oct. 2013 Ã 08:06, Olivier Auverlot a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I just started since 3 days to work on a new framework for Pharo. It's named "PROXimity". The goal of this framework is to control a Proxmox virtualization solution with Pharo. > > Proxmox uses a REST API. With Zinc and STON, it's very easy to give orders as creating a virtual machine, managing the boot and stop, etc. > > I'm working on this project because it is a subpart of another application but I think that it could interest other Pharo users (for example: seaside hosting). > > The first Pharo classes are published on SmalltalkHub. If you're interested and want join your forces with me, don't hesitate to contact me. > > > http://www.proxmox.com > > http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_API > > Best regards > Olivier ;-) > > >

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Could we have a list of the official pragmas because it starts to be a MESS!

by Benjamin

The finder has a "Pragmas" category :) Ben On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:44 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > For example > > <systemEventRegistration> > I have no idea (of course there is no comment) what is the use of this pragma. > > Chasing pragma interpreter can be painful so we should pay attention. > Too many pragmas are a plague. > > Agreed. Part of the design of pragmas is that, because they're message sends, they have implementations. Those implementations can document what the pragma does. The browser should include pragma selectors when doing "implementors..." so one can easily find the implementation of a pragma. Also senders... should answer methods with pragmas with the selector being looked for. If both of these are true then pragmas are much easier to explore and understand. > > > HTH, > Eliot

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Bootstrap for Seaside3 project (Release 0.1.0)

by Luc Fabresse

Thank you very much Torsten! #Luc 2013/10/3 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Gorgeous!!!! > > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:52 AM, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > there are various frameworks out there helping you to ease common tasks > in web development. > > One of them is Bootstrap (http://getbootstrap.com) that is used more > and more to easily style > > web sites and web applications. > > > > We had wrappers for Bootstrap supporting Seaside in the past already: > > - the TwitterBootstrap project on SS3 from the Seaside team > > - the TBootstrap project from Gaston Dall Oglio > > > > Unfortunately these projects are not up to date with the latest > Bootstrap version, > > not covered by tests, had no docu or examples, no CI, ... > > > > To provide better support for Bootstrap and Seaside3 development I > created a fresh project > > called "Bootstrap for Seaside" (or "Bootstrap" for short). > > > > This new project is > > - nearly feature complete regarding components (Nav, Navbar, Jumbotron, > Buttons, Alarms, Layouts, ...) > > - uses the latest Bootstrap libraries (http://getbootstrap.com) > > - covered by more than 160 tests > > - completed with an example browser that shows Bootstrap components and > according Smalltalk code > > - available at STHub ( > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/Bootstrap) > > - documented (see mentioned project website on STHub) with docu support > for PharoOnlineHelp and catalog > > - controlled by CI ( > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bootstrap/) > > - easily loadable using config browser in Pharo 2.0 > > > > Attached are some screenshots from the project itself. > > > > More details can be found in the more docu at the project site on > SmalltalkHub. Just scroll down at the > > info page provided there. > > > > You can easily load it in a fresh Pharo 2.0 as "Bootstrap" from the > config browser. It loads Seaside3 > > as a dependency. After loading evaluate > > > > ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080 > > > > to start the webserver and go to http://localhost:8080/bootstrap to > browse the samples. > > > > Feel free to use it for your next Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap based web > project and thanks in advance > > for any contribution you may give to the project in the future. > > > > Bye > > T. > > <tbsScreen2.png><tbsScreen1.png><tbsScreen3.png><tbsLogo.png> > > >

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Bootstrap for Seaside3 project (Release 0.1.0)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Gorgeous!!!! On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:52 AM, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi, > > there are various frameworks out there helping you to ease common tasks in web development. > One of them is Bootstrap (http://getbootstrap.com) that is used more and more to easily style > web sites and web applications. > > We had wrappers for Bootstrap supporting Seaside in the past already: > - the TwitterBootstrap project on SS3 from the Seaside team > - the TBootstrap project from Gaston Dall Oglio > > Unfortunately these projects are not up to date with the latest Bootstrap version, > not covered by tests, had no docu or examples, no CI, ... > > To provide better support for Bootstrap and Seaside3 development I created a fresh project > called "Bootstrap for Seaside" (or "Bootstrap" for short). > > This new project is > - nearly feature complete regarding components (Nav, Navbar, Jumbotron, Buttons, Alarms, Layouts, ...) > - uses the latest Bootstrap libraries (http://getbootstrap.com) > - covered by more than 160 tests > - completed with an example browser that shows Bootstrap components and according Smalltalk code > - available at STHub (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/Bootstrap) > - documented (see mentioned project website on STHub) with docu support for PharoOnlineHelp and catalog > - controlled by CI (https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bootstrap/) > - easily loadable using config browser in Pharo 2.0 > > Attached are some screenshots from the project itself. > > More details can be found in the more docu at the project site on SmalltalkHub. Just scroll down at the > info page provided there. > > You can easily load it in a fresh Pharo 2.0 as "Bootstrap" from the config browser. It loads Seaside3 > as a dependency. After loading evaluate > > ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080 > > to start the webserver and go to http://localhost:8080/bootstrap to browse the samples. > > Feel free to use it for your next Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap based web project and thanks in advance > for any contribution you may give to the project in the future. > > Bye > T. > <tbsScreen2.png><tbsScreen1.png><tbsScreen3.png><tbsLogo.png>

Oct. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] about configuration to manage the image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:20 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Now I redid the configuration of Refactoring and Critics and publish the new package in the correct repository (ok marcus you did it so this is great but it will not scale) >> because there was a new changes touching all the packages. >> > > > e.g. the compiler changes where cross cutting both the compiler package and the e.g. AST. Or the Compiler and the Kernelâ¦ I'm not complaining. I'm trying to find a way to get smarter. > > Marcus >

Oct. 3, 2013