October 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

WhatsUp from: 2013-10-07 until: 2013-10-20

by seaside＠rmod.lille.inria.fr

Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS ### What's next, until 2013-10-20 (*): - $NEXT_STEPS_TOWARDS_WORLD_DOMINATION (*) we'll be expecting results by then ;)

Oct. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] about creating Morphic-Widgets

by Tudor Girba

+1 Doru On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Benjamin < Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am in for splitting Morphic in more that one package. > > It makes things really boring to have every thing in one MC Package :( > > Ben > > On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:54 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > Hi guys > > I started to play with sorting a bit Morphic :) > So I would like to create a new Package Morphics-Widgets with the > following contents. > > > Morphic-Widgets-Basic > SimpleSwitchMorph > MulticolumnLazyListMorph > SimpleButtonMorph > LazyListMorph > IconicButton > ThreePhaseButtonMorph > CalendarMorph > Morphic-Widgets-Pluggable > PluggableTabButtonMorph > PluggableButtonMorph > PluggableTextMorph > PluggableMultiColumnListMorph > PluggableTextMorphWithLimits > PluggableTabBarMorph > PluggableListMorph > Morphic-Widgets-NewList > NewList > NewListRenderer > NewListAdapter > Morphic-Widgets-Tab > > Morphic-Widget-MorphTreeWidget > Morphic-Widget-MorphTreeWidget-Pagination > > I would promote Morphic-Base-ProgressBar -> Morphic-ProgressBar > > So what do you think? > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] about creating Morphic-Widgets

by Benjamin

I am in for splitting Morphic in more that one package. It makes things really boring to have every thing in one MC Package :( Ben On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:54 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I started to play with sorting a bit Morphic :) > So I would like to create a new Package Morphics-Widgets with the following contents. > > > Morphic-Widgets-Basic > SimpleSwitchMorph > MulticolumnLazyListMorph > SimpleButtonMorph > LazyListMorph > IconicButton > ThreePhaseButtonMorph > CalendarMorph > Morphic-Widgets-Pluggable > PluggableTabButtonMorph > PluggableButtonMorph > PluggableTextMorph > PluggableMultiColumnListMorph > PluggableTextMorphWithLimits > PluggableTabBarMorph > PluggableListMorph > Morphic-Widgets-NewList > NewList > NewListRenderer > NewListAdapter > Morphic-Widgets-Tab > > Morphic-Widget-MorphTreeWidget > Morphic-Widget-MorphTreeWidget-Pagination > > I would promote Morphic-Base-ProgressBar -> Morphic-ProgressBar > > So what do you think? > >

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I wanted to understand new list

by Benjamin

On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:16 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > And > > NewListExample new > withNewList; > openInWindow. > > does not work. > > separatorAfter: item at: index > > ^ separatorSelector > ifNotNil: [ self model perform: separatorSelector with: item with: index ] Should probably be ifNotNil: [ self model perform: self separatorSelector with: item with: index ] > > separatorSelector > is a valueHolder and not a symbol > > but I do not get it because > > > separatorSelector > ^ separatorSelector contents > > separatorSelector: anObject > separatorSelector contents: anObject > > really looks like a valueHolder. > > Stef > It is a value holder for sure :) I will have a look tomorrow to make the example works :) Ben

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by Tudor Girba

In the Moose image you should always use GTInspector which is mapped as the Explorer (Ctrl+Shift+i). This one gives you multiple facets to most important objects. For example a dictionary is represented as a table (see attached screenshot). Please look at this inspector for a bit. I believe it is significantly more advanced than anything I encountered in any IDE (including the new one in Pharo 3). Cheers, Doru [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Ok I see I was using Moose for the lecture so probably still in 2.0 > > Stef > > On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> the only thing that is a bit confusing is that it show "class" and > "self" in the basic inspector, but > >> that very useful to have. (and technically class is a field in the > object via the object header ;-) > > > > > > it would be nice to distinguish the calculated/virtual values by using a > different font or icon... > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok I see I was using Moose for the lecture so probably still in 2.0 Stef On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> the only thing that is a bit confusing is that it show "class" and "self" in the basic inspector, but >> that very useful to have. (and technically class is a field in the object via the object header ;-) > > > it would be nice to distinguish the calculated/virtual values by using a different font or icon...

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by Camillo Bruni

> the only thing that is a bit confusing is that it show "class" and "self" in the basic inspector, but > that very useful to have. (and technically class is a field in the object via the object header ;-) it would be nice to distinguish the calculated/virtual values by using a different font or icon...

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by Marcus Denker

On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > the old inspector defined a hierarchy of specialized inspector and I was giving a lecture to serious programmers :) > and I noticed that they were confused by the inspector when opening dictionary because we see the dictionary state. > The new ones make this explicit: the menu on the top always lets you select the inspector. There always -> basic -> tree (explorer) and more if there is one. Now a class can define the default to be a different one that the basic. An example for that are collections. e.g. inspect Smalltalk globals World 1 FileSystem workingDirectory So for a Dictionary, you see key->value by default, but you can always jump to the basic inspector if needed. the only thing that is a bit confusing is that it show "class" and "self" in the basic inspector, but that very useful to have. (and technically class is a field in the object via the object header ;-) Marcus

Oct. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by Camillo Bruni

I do not fully understand what you mean, but I assume the difference between a basic inspector on the real fields of an object and a specialized dictionary inspector which shows the elements in the inspector? We added the custom dictionary inspector a while ago, plus there was the right-click menu with the basic-inspect entry. With the new inspector views you can switch between the basic inspectors and custom inspectors. Just do: Smalltalk globals inspect. and you have 3 choices now â+1 Collection Inspector (the original dictionary inspector) â+0 Basic Inspector (here alternatively â+1) â+3 Tree Inspector For other objects there are even more choices: World inspect. â+1 Basic Inspector â+2 Tree Inspector â+3 View Hierarchy Inspector â+4 Morphic Viewer (currently broken due to spec changes) On 2013-10-06, at 20:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > the old inspector defined a hierarchy of specialized inspector and I was giving a lecture to serious programmers :) > and I noticed that they were confused by the inspector when opening dictionary because we see the dictionary state. > > Stef

Oct. 6, 2013

is there a new inspector version for dictionary

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi the old inspector defined a hierarchy of specialized inspector and I was giving a lecture to serious programmers :) and I noticed that they were confused by the inspector when opening dictionary because we see the dictionary state. Stef

Oct. 6, 2013