January 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] How to force Metacello to use the package cache?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

In fact I was wrong it indeed get the files from my packagecachesâ¦ but this is still so slow :). > for me it systematically loads everyghing so I'm trying to nuke it in gofer > kind of I put the enable code in the disable method :) and I will see. > > > > disablePackageCache > "Disable the use of the package-cache repository." > > packageCacheRepository := MCCacheRepository default This was a bad idea :) Since nothing loaded anymore. > > > > > Stef > > On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 28 Jan 2013, at 16:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I'm trying to work on Moose and I get 200 package to download during my experiments ~ 30 min at minimum >>> Does anybody have an idea how to make sure metacello use the package cache? >> >> In my experience, Metacello/Monticello caching *is* used (provided you keep using the same package-cache directory). >> If you open the Transcript while loading and/or inspect the Metacello loading result, you'll see when the cache is being used. >> >> IMHO, the downloading is not the worst part, it is more the loading/compiling - probably due to massive notifications and the reactions on that, it is hard to analyse and I am no expert at all. >> >>> I started to comment >>> >>> cacheGofer >>> >>> cacheGofer == nil >>> ifTrue: [ >>> "don't use a caching Gofer here, since we expect the contents to change during a fetch operation" >>> cacheGofer := Gofer new. >>> >>>> cacheGofer disablePackageCache. >>> cacheGofer repository: self cacheRepository. ]. >>> ^ cacheGofer >>> >>> But no success so far. >>> >>> Still looking around >>> Stef >>> >>> >> >> > >

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] TxTextMorph based on new text model

by Denis Kudriashov

Hello 2013/1/24 DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > > I don't. Do you have link? > > Here is the paper: http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2010002_lobjects.pdf > And you can download the image with the actual active essay from > http://tinlizzie.org/lesserphic2/Text%20Field%20for%20LObject.zip > I read paper and play with image. And I have not good impression about this work. First they present text with real objects for each letter. Each letter is actually big object with x, y, predecessor, successor and other attributes. How much memory such model required? Do you think that presenting any letter with real object (not just character) is sufficient for modern computers? I think not. Of course such model significantly simplified all logic around text layout stuff. But I think it is too expensive. Another thing which I always not agree is introduction scripting languages inside smalltalk. In paper all layout logic (and editing too) programmed by "system of rules" in special scripting language (very similar to smalltalk). If you look deeply you will see that rules call other rules with same way methods call other methods in basic smalltalk code. So I don't see any value of rules idea expressed with special scripts. In spite of my non positive opinion I like what they do inside rules. It is really simple and understandable code. Maybe I will try reuse something. Best regards, Denis

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] How to force Metacello to use the package cache?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

for me it systematically loads everyghing so I'm trying to nuke it in gofer kind of I put the enable code in the disable method :) and I will see. disablePackageCache "Disable the use of the package-cache repository." packageCacheRepository := MCCacheRepository default Stef On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 28 Jan 2013, at 16:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I'm trying to work on Moose and I get 200 package to download during my experiments ~ 30 min at minimum >> Does anybody have an idea how to make sure metacello use the package cache? > > In my experience, Metacello/Monticello caching *is* used (provided you keep using the same package-cache directory). > If you open the Transcript while loading and/or inspect the Metacello loading result, you'll see when the cache is being used. > > IMHO, the downloading is not the worst part, it is more the loading/compiling - probably due to massive notifications and the reactions on that, it is hard to analyse and I am no expert at all. > >> I started to comment >> >> cacheGofer >> >> cacheGofer == nil >> ifTrue: [ >> "don't use a caching Gofer here, since we expect the contents to change during a fetch operation" >> cacheGofer := Gofer new. >> >>>> cacheGofer disablePackageCache. >> cacheGofer repository: self cacheRepository. ]. >> ^ cacheGofer >> >> But no success so far. >> >> Still looking around >> Stef >> >> > >

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Soup works in 2.0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool. May be we should migrate to SmalltalkHub. If you do it put me as a contributor :) stef On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > All tests pass. I updated the config and uploaded it to SqS and ss3... > > Cheers, > Sean > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Soup-works-in-2-0-tp4665907.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Soup works in 2.0

by Camillo Bruni

nice! On 2013-01-28, at 18:21, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > All tests pass. I updated the config and uploaded it to SqS and ss3... > > Cheers, > Sean > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Soup-works-in-2-0-tp4665907.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 28, 2013

[Pharo-project] Soup works in 2.0

by Sean P. DeNigris

All tests pass. I updated the config and uploaded it to SqS and ss3... Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Soup-works-in-2-0-tp4665907.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20494

by Marcus Denker

20494 ----- Issue 7342: RB tests assume that Object isAbstract http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7342 Issue 7335: [Bug]: Nautilus Annotation Plugin DNU http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7335 Issue 7290: Add #split: streaming protocol http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7290 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Regex-Core-MarcusDenker.22.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Refactoring-Tests-Core-MarcusDenker.61.d… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Nautilus-MarcusDenker.402.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1291.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Collections-Strings-MarcusDenker.240.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Collections-Sequenceable-MarcusDenker.12… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Collections-Abstract-MarcusDenker.196.di…

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] where can I find the latest athens?

by Camillo Bruni

https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Athens/ contains now the latest sources, I change that. Though since no tests are run, there is no guarantee that the image works with the used NBCog vm... On 2013-01-28, at 18:08, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi Igor, > > Is there any news on this? > I would like to show how Roassal perform in Athens, but I cannot find the last VM and a working image... > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> I checked: https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Athens/? >> There is no link for a one-click distribution? >> Apparently the VM is not available? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> => #last works >>> => Igor you should add a description to the jenkins job with the basics :) >>> >>> On 2013-01-26, at 11:15, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> ok, no stable configuration defined ;) >>>> >>>> https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Athens/18/console >>>> >>>> so trying #development >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-26, at 11:14, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just set up the jenkins job so we have one ;) >>>>> Check the ci configuration: >>>>> >>>>> ./vm.sh $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfAthens --install=1.4 >>>>> >>>>> so maybe I should change that to stable... then again, this is not my job either I think ;) >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-01-26, at 01:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I opened the MC repository of Athens in the image that we can get from the ci >>>>>> and I do not understand why there are lot of packages that are not the loaded. >>>>>> Are they current development? >>>>>> Is the CI image really holding the latest stable version? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] where can I find the latest athens?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Igor, Is there any news on this? I would like to show how Roassal perform in Athens, but I cannot find the last VM and a working image... Cheers, Alexandre On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I checked: https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Athens/? > There is no link for a one-click distribution? > Apparently the VM is not available? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> => #last works >> => Igor you should add a description to the jenkins job with the basics :) >> >> On 2013-01-26, at 11:15, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> ok, no stable configuration defined ;) >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Athens/18/console >>> >>> so trying #development >>> >>> >>> On 2013-01-26, at 11:14, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I just set up the jenkins job so we have one ;) >>>> Check the ci configuration: >>>> >>>> ./vm.sh $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfAthens --install=1.4 >>>> >>>> so maybe I should change that to stable... then again, this is not my job either I think ;) >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-26, at 01:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I opened the MC repository of Athens in the image that we can get from the ci >>>>> and I do not understand why there are lot of packages that are not the loaded. >>>>> Are they current development? >>>>> Is the CI image really holding the latest stable version? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] FOSDEM diner & drinks?

by Marcus Denker

> > Craig and I plan to arrive in Brussels-Midi 12:04 on saturday. > We are up for diner & drinks saturday evening, and early diner > on sunday. We'd like to travel back to the Netherlands at 19.00 or > so. > Any ideas? I liked the place Andy showed us last year, and it is > perfect > for sunday evening. > I am in for sunday evening. My Train back is 19:17. Marcus

Jan. 28, 2013