September 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel and Tanker in older Pharo images [WAS] Re: How to try Shapes and Gaucho?

by Fernando Olivero

Cool! Thanks Mariano for the summary, and all the others for this much needed features! Looking forward to adopt such a process, to have a minimal Pharo image, customized to my needs. Fernando On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com<mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>> wrote: > 2012/9/29 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com<mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com<mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hello > > ss3 repo for Shapes and Gaucho closed for reading or maybe empty. > So is it possible to get it somewhere? maybe there is prepared image? > > Actually I gather migrate our applications to last Pharo and use latest achievemens like fuel and tanker. > > Hi. I don't want to go offtopic in the original thread so I opened this one. > Of course it is usually a good idea to migrate to latest stable Pharo release so that you don't stay with a very old image. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that Fuel DOES WORK in previous images. In fact, it works from Pharo 1.1 to 2.0. And Tanker right now works in 2.0 only by just because by default we use the new ClassBuilder. But this can be easily changed for those who want to use it in older versions. Anyway, Tanker is still a little bit green ;) For more details read my answer to this comment: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/new-tanker-current-status/#comm… > > Hello and thank's for response. > > Actually I want use Tanker to deploy my applications with "bootstrap way" where only kernel minimal image existed and all application loaded at startup. > It will simplify delivering application updates to slow remote targets. I can just upload small tanker files and load it seamlessly because its really fast. > And without image saves no corrupt images due to something bad at middle of image save. > > Hi Denis. I want to say a couple of things about this. First, you are not the only one wanting this. In fact, that scenario is one of the reasons we are investing a lot of time in the infrastructure: > > 1) Pavel Krivanek has been working a lot in making the image more modular, being able to cleanly unload and reload packages. This was the first step. > 2) Jannik Laval continue that effort trying to remove lots of cyclic dependencies between packages. > 3) Guillermo Polito started to work in the bootstrap. He is now able to bootstrap images from scratch (contrary to Pavel's PharoKernel where he was unloading packages). > 4) Esteban Lorenzano is working on a new ConfigurationOfPharo that will let you take a kernel/bootstraped/minimal image and load just the packages you want. > 5) Camilo Bruni, Martin Dias, Guillermo Polito, and Toon Verwaest have been working in a new class builder based on layouts. The "old ClassBuilder" is really difficult to maintain, understand, fix, etc. When you load packages, the class builder takes an important role. Therefore, they were working in a new class builder, which, from my point of view, is way better, object-oriented, tested, etc. > 6) Martin Dias and Me were working in Tanker, a tool to export/import packages of code using Fuel without Compiler. > > So.....as you can see there is/was a lot of work going on related to what you need :) It is not 100% ready, but we are getting there. > > Cheers, > > > Best regards, > Denis > > > > > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Bad behaviour at startup

by Denis Kudriashov

Hello. I try it for latest pharo2.0 one click. Same results. I am on Windows 7. First I register ZnServer at workspace: server := ZnServer on: 10025. server start. server register server isRunning & server isListening. Then save image. When I reopen image server is running. Now if I run other application at same port and try to open pharo It will closed with pharoDebug about anable to create socket. No chance to debug and fix it. I think it is very bad behaviour because it make impossible to run my image at different computers just because another application holds socket. There is one strange thing. When I open another ZnServer on another image both images works nice. "server isRunning & server isListening." returns true for both. And same happens if I doing it from one single image. It is possible to create two ZnServer's for same port. Only one accept requests from webbrowser for example. But when I closed it another ZnServer start accept requests. I think I just don't know something about sockets but it looks very strange to me. Best regards, Denis 2012/9/24 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>wrote: > >> The behavior you are seeing is standard behavior for a headless image, >> are you running headless or not ? >> > > I think that if the problem comes from the startUp processing, this is the > standard behavior whether it is headless or not. But I may be wrong.... > Igor/Esteban? I remember discussing this.... > > >> >> On 24 Sep 2012, at 10:21, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I am on Windows 7 >> > >> > 2012/9/24 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> > Ok, I will look at mails. >> > >> > In short: >> > Start new seaside image. Add new zinc adaptor on port 10025 (for >> example). Save and close image. Block this port by firewall. Start image. >> > It should close immediately. >> > >> > I have pharoDebug with >> > THERE_BE_DRAGONS_HERE >> > Error: Cannot create socket on port 10025 >> > 24 September 2012 12:18:00.807 pm >> > >> > VM: Win32 - IX86 - 6.1 - CoInterpreter >> VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: >> 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 11 2012, >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: >> 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 11 2012, >> https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >> 8eb3f452262d1b213fd1b6fd3cb682e292945ccf Date: Mon Jul 9 15:23:19 2012 >> +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> > Image: Pharo1.4 [Latest update: #14456] >> > >> > >> > >> > 2012/9/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> > Check the mailing-list because this was already discussed. >> > igor and other spent time to streamline this process in particular in >> headless mode. >> > >> > So can you tell us a bit more what you are doing and when? >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > >> >> Hello. >> >> >> >> I found very bad behaviour. >> >> I use Pharo1.4. >> >> And when there is some errors at startup Image just closed. It is >> horrible >> >> >> >> I have image with seaside application which open socket at startup. >> >> So when I move to another computer where this port is busy (or closed >> by firewall) Pharo opened and immediately closed. No chance to debug and >> fix it. >> >> >> >> What you think about it? Is it fixed already at pharo 2.0? >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Denis >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> On 24 Sep 2012, at 10:21, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I am on Windows 7 >> > >> > 2012/9/24 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> > Ok, I will look at mails. >> > >> > In short: >> > Start new seaside image. Add new zinc adaptor on port 10025 (for >> example). Save and close image. Block this port by firewall. Start image. >> > It should close immediately. >> > >> > I have pharoDebug with >> > THERE_BE_DRAGONS_HERE >> > Error: Cannot create socket on port 10025 >> > 24 September 2012 12:18:00.807 pm >> > >> > VM: Win32 - IX86 - 6.1 - CoInterpreter >> VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: >> 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 11 2012, >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: >> 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 11 2012, >> https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >> 8eb3f452262d1b213fd1b6fd3cb682e292945ccf Date: Mon Jul 9 15:23:19 2012 >> +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> > Image: Pharo1.4 [Latest update: #14456] >> > >> > >> > >> > 2012/9/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> > Check the mailing-list because this was already discussed. >> > igor and other spent time to streamline this process in particular in >> headless mode. >> > >> > So can you tell us a bit more what you are doing and when? >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > >> > > Hello. >> > > >> > > I found very bad behaviour. >> > > I use Pharo1.4. >> > > And when there is some errors at startup Image just closed. It is >> horrible >> > > >> > > I have image with seaside application which open socket at startup. >> > > So when I move to another computer where this port is busy (or closed >> by firewall) Pharo opened and immediately closed. No chance to debug and >> fix it. >> > > >> > > What you think about it? Is it fixed already at pharo 2.0? >> > > >> > > Best regards >> > > Denis >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sven Van Caekenberghe >> http://stfx.eu >> Smalltalk is the Red Pill >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel and Tanker in older Pharo images [WAS] Re: How to try Shapes and Gaucho?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>wrote: > 2012/9/29 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> ss3 repo for Shapes and Gaucho closed for reading or maybe empty. >>> So is it possible to get it somewhere? maybe there is prepared image? >>> >>> Actually I gather migrate our applications to last Pharo and use latest >>> achievemens like fuel and tanker. >>> >> >> Hi. I don't want to go offtopic in the original thread so I opened this >> one. >> Of course it is usually a good idea to migrate to latest stable Pharo >> release so that you don't stay with a very old image. Anyway, what I wanted >> to say is that Fuel DOES WORK in previous images. In fact, it works from >> Pharo 1.1 to 2.0. And Tanker right now works in 2.0 only by just because >> by default we use the new ClassBuilder. But this can be easily changed for >> those who want to use it in older versions. Anyway, Tanker is still a >> little bit green ;) For more details read my answer to this comment: >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/new-tanker-current-status/#comm… >> > > Hello and thank's for response. > > Actually I want use Tanker to deploy my applications with "bootstrap way" > where only kernel minimal image existed and all application loaded at > startup. > It will simplify delivering application updates to slow remote targets. I > can just upload small tanker files and load it seamlessly because its > really fast. > And without image saves no corrupt images due to something bad at middle > of image save. > Hi Denis. I want to say a couple of things about this. First, you are not the only one wanting this. In fact, that scenario is one of the reasons we are investing a lot of time in the infrastructure: 1) Pavel Krivanek has been working a lot in making the image more modular, being able to cleanly unload and reload packages. This was the first step. 2) Jannik Laval continue that effort trying to remove lots of cyclic dependencies between packages. 3) Guillermo Polito started to work in the bootstrap. He is now able to bootstrap images from scratch (contrary to Pavel's PharoKernel where he was unloading packages). 4) Esteban Lorenzano is working on a new ConfigurationOfPharo that will let you take a kernel/bootstraped/minimal image and load just the packages you want. 5) Camilo Bruni, Martin Dias, Guillermo Polito, and Toon Verwaest have been working in a new class builder based on layouts. The "old ClassBuilder" is really difficult to maintain, understand, fix, etc. When you load packages, the class builder takes an important role. Therefore, they were working in a new class builder, which, from my point of view, is way better, object-oriented, tested, etc. 6) Martin Dias and Me were working in Tanker, a tool to export/import packages of code using Fuel without Compiler. So.....as you can see there is/was a lot of work going on related to what you need :) It is not 100% ready, but we are getting there. Cheers, > Best regards, > Denis > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel and Tanker in older Pharo images [WAS] Re: How to try Shapes and Gaucho?

by Denis Kudriashov

2012/9/29 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hello >> >> ss3 repo for Shapes and Gaucho closed for reading or maybe empty. >> So is it possible to get it somewhere? maybe there is prepared image? >> >> Actually I gather migrate our applications to last Pharo and use latest >> achievemens like fuel and tanker. >> > > Hi. I don't want to go offtopic in the original thread so I opened this > one. > Of course it is usually a good idea to migrate to latest stable Pharo > release so that you don't stay with a very old image. Anyway, what I wanted > to say is that Fuel DOES WORK in previous images. In fact, it works from > Pharo 1.1 to 2.0. And Tanker right now works in 2.0 only by just because > by default we use the new ClassBuilder. But this can be easily changed for > those who want to use it in older versions. Anyway, Tanker is still a > little bit green ;) For more details read my answer to this comment: > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/new-tanker-current-status/#comm… > Hello and thank's for response. Actually I want use Tanker to deploy my applications with "bootstrap way" where only kernel minimal image existed and all application loaded at startup. It will simplify delivering application updates to slow remote targets. I can just upload small tanker files and load it seamlessly because its really fast. And without image saves no corrupt images due to something bad at middle of image save. Best regards, Denis

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] How to try Shapes and Gaucho?

by Denis Kudriashov

Hello Fernando 2012/9/29 Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch> > Hi Denis, I'm actively working on Shapes/Gaucho, but not having the > time to finally polish it to release has held me back in doing so. > > The repos are closed for now, until i release them. > > Shapes is not "production" ready, unless you are willing to work on > it. Meaning that Gaucho is the sole user for now. It's much more > simpler than using Morphic though(at the expense of loosing some > features, which were never used by the way). What it gives you is: > > 1) Vector graphics, its based on Athens. > 2) Customizable shapes using a kind of CSS. > 3) Shapes always deal with a local coordinate system, no matter were > they're placed in the top/down hierarchy within the scene > 4) simpler Event handling based on message passing (instead of > MorphicEvents), a reified display and peripherals, > 5) An non-overlapping scheme, with snowplowing. > 6) No GLOBALS, such as World & ActiveHand. > 6) etc... > What you say looks really great like I read about it before. And that's why I have big impatience to look at code and learn object design of your system. For example I'am very interested how you decompose big morph object in shapes environment, how you implement layout engines, how it compared to cuis simple morphic and newspeak Hopscotch approaches. > What's preventing me from releasing it now, is that the > MultipleLinesTextEditor based on Cairo/Pango isnt 100% finished, so > you can type and edit multiple lines of text, and methods. I'm working > on it. > So to satisfy my curiosity I don't really need totally completed production-ready system. Just some runnable image with code which I can investigate. And actually for my applications I need just simple labels, icons, single line input fields, and flexible layouts. In any case thank's for your effort. > Fernando > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello > > > > ss3 repo for Shapes and Gaucho closed for reading or maybe empty. > > So is it possible to get it somewhere? maybe there is prepared image? > > > > Actually I gather migrate our applications to last Pharo and use latest > achievemens like fuel and tanker. > > And of course I want vector graphics for user interface by athens. > > And I very very excited about shapes which gives clean and powerfull > morphic replacement (Am I right?) > > > > But to understand amount of work for such big changes I should see > shapes livelly. I need code. > > > > Best regards, > > Denis > >

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello bleedingEdge question

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Mariano Martinez Peck" <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:59:46 AM > | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello bleedingEdge question > | > | > | > | > | On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Dale Henrichs < dhenrich(a)vmware.com > | > wrote: > | > | > | Sven, > | > | The versions in ConfigurationOfZTimestamp aren't quite defined > | correctly ... bleedingEdge defaults to loading the latest baseline > | version. A baseline version is declared by setting the blessing to > | #baseline: > | > | spec blessing: #baseline. > | > | Your versions in ConfigurationOfZTimestamp are importing from the > | '1-baseline' but are not changing the blessing, so Metacello doesn't > | know that 1, 2, and 3 are literal versions and not baselines. So > | version 3 looks like the "latest baseline version".. > | > | > | > | Dale, but baselines are supposed to mandatory have the "spec > | blessing: #baseline.", right? so why would metacello think that > | versions 1, 2, and 3 are baselines instead of versions? > > Mariano, > > Short answer is that literal versions are defined by importing from the > baseline, so the literal version inherits the blessing from the baseline. > Therefore you have to specify a blessing of #development or #release in the > literal version to distinguish it from the baseline. > > Thanks Dale for the explanation. Now I understand. > Long answer is... > > For loading purposes, it actually doesn't matter what the blessing is ... > In Metacello, if a package spec has a `file` specified, then the `file` is > loaded. if the `file` is not specified then the latest version of the mcz > file is loaded ... > > By convention, when we define baseline versions we don't specify the > `file` for the packages. > > By convention when we define literal versions we do specify the `file` for > the packages. The expression: > > spec package: 'Example-Core' with: 'Example-Core-dkh.25' > > defines the `file` for the 'Example-Core' package spec to be > 'Example-Core-dkh.25'. > > The blessing is used as an hint by Metacello when using the helper > functions like #bleedingEdge or #latestVersion that implement functionality > based on the conventions. > > #bleedingEdge is defined as the latest version with a #baseline blessing. > > #latestVersion is defined as the latest version whose blessing is neither > #baseline nor #development. > > Versions with a #broken blessing are excluded from consideration... > > Dale > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: change n same words in browser with one action

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > Hi, > > maybe in Pharo some of these keyboard shortcuts were removed (for > now), but providing the same operations via pop-up menus doesn't make > it a modal UI. One could argue that remembering and triggering > keyboard shortcuts simply avoids showing the menu at all, at the > expense of a big VI-like learning curve . > > The community behind Pharo does not want modes in the UI! Indeed I do not really understanding are saying that :) > Of course for power users, remembering tons of shortcuts might be > better (not for me though), but there are plans to add default and > customizable keybindings ( using the work of Guille Polito). people are talking often but do not know :) We can control nautilus with a lot of shortcut driven by speedy and really efficient programmers like camillo and guillermo so it would be good to check before talking. Stef > > Fernando > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> yes, exactly like this: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/900 >>> >>> Bert Freudenberg added the following: >>> >>> Tip: You do not have to perform a "find" for the "replace" to work. >>> Just select a word you want to have replaced, overtype it with your >>> new word, and hit (ctrl-j). Very handy for renaming variables. >>> >>> This would be perfect. >> >> You should not expect that -- Pharo used to have it but it was removed >> in favor of a more mainstream editor look-and-feel -- so that it be >> would more attractive to new users. Command+J / Control+J are just >> two of several powerful code-editing capabilities Pharo originally >> inherited from Squeak, along with my other favorites Command+E = >> Exchange the last two selections and Command+[, (, {, or | = Surround >> the highlighted text with that bracket-type pair. (not sure if those >> are still there in Pharo). >> >> Pharo favors _familiarity_ for new users somewhat at the cost of >> productivity for its experienced users. It somewhat resembles eclipse >> -- with pop-up dialogs and a seemingly "modal" philosophy. Squeak, by >> constrast, has kept pushing the "simple-but-powerful" philosphy of its >> IDE to near extremes. While it's less familiar for new uesrs, once >> learned, general navigation and editing require _far fewer_ gestures. >> >

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: change n same words in browser with one action

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> You should not expect that -- Pharo used to have it but it was removed > in favor of a more mainstream editor look-and-feel -- so that it be > would more attractive to new users. Command+J / Control+J are just > two of several powerful code-editing capabilities Pharo originally > inherited from Squeak, along with my other favorites Command+E = > Exchange the last two selections and Command+[, (, {, or | = Surround > the highlighted text with that bracket-type pair. (not sure if those > are still there in Pharo). There are and we have more. > Pharo favors _familiarity_ for new users somewhat at the cost of > productivity for its experienced users. I cannot really let you saying that :) We want useful and powerful features, this is why over the years we supported refactorings and this is why we are working on keybinding so that we can get emacs like bindings. > It somewhat resembles eclipse > -- with pop-up dialogs and a seemingly "modal" philosophy. What are you saying?â¦ Camillo and Ben added full capability for managing the browser without touching a mouse. We have Click browse and other features. > Squeak, by > constrast, has kept pushing the "simple-but-powerful" philosphy of its > IDE to near extremes. While it's less familiar for new uesrs, once > learned, general navigation and editing require _far fewer_ gestures. Chris did you see us comparing squeak and pharo recently? Stef

Sept. 29, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fuel and Tanker in older Pharo images [WAS] Re: How to try Shapes and Gaucho?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hello > > ss3 repo for Shapes and Gaucho closed for reading or maybe empty. > So is it possible to get it somewhere? maybe there is prepared image? > > Actually I gather migrate our applications to last Pharo and use latest > achievemens like fuel and tanker. > Hi. I don't want to go offtopic in the original thread so I opened this one. Of course it is usually a good idea to migrate to latest stable Pharo release so that you don't stay with a very old image. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that Fuel DOES WORK in previous images. In fact, it works from Pharo 1.1 to 2.0. And Tanker right now works in 2.0 only by just because by default we use the new ClassBuilder. But this can be easily changed for those who want to use it in older versions. Anyway, Tanker is still a little bit green ;) For more details read my answer to this comment: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/new-tanker-current-status/#comm… > And of course I want vector graphics for user interface by athens. > And I very very excited about shapes which gives clean and powerfull > morphic replacement (Am I right?) > > But to understand amount of work for such big changes I should see shapes > livelly. I need code. > > Best regards, > Denis > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 29, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: change n same words in browser with one action

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-09-29, at 10:04, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Igor and want to add, that a newbie will not be disturbed by shortcuts and can use the dialogs. It is the normal way, if you learn a new system, you get to know one thing after the other and someday, you get to know the shortcuts and they help to work faster. > > As you can see in the screenshot (left side), the feature is documented. > At the right side you can see, that it is not implemented ;.) > > Perhaps it is possible to implement it in one of the next releases? > I don't think replacements on a textual basis make much sense: 1. methods are only a few lines of code, thus limiting the usefulness of such replacements 2. besides renaming temporaries, most renames should be applied to other methods as well. For instance inst-var renames, or method renames.. Though I would like to see on-the-fly variable renaming. For instance as soon as you start typing on the name of the variable definition it will automatically rewrite all the other accesses to that variable in the current method. But for that we need a decent AST-based text editor. So unless you are a pro-pharo-shortcut user, think about the time you loose otherwise by point-and-clicking with your mouse ;), a little search and replace dialog interaction won't add too much :) best cami

Sept. 29, 2012