September 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub news

by Nicolas Petton

I really like the abstraction that Voyage provides. We could check if it would make sense to use it for SmalltalkHub. I really hate duplicated efforts. Nico On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:11:33 +0200, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > in fact, I already dropped old Voyage session cache for the one in SmalltalkHub, which was cooler than mine :) > now is turn to Nico to check what can he use from Voyage, and if that makes sense ;) > > Esteban > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Yes, in fact with Esteban we thought about merging our work or maybe I > > will drop my layer and use Voyage. > > > > Nico > > > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:30:30 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ok! > >> > >> I've managed to load it but haven't tried to run it (yet). I almost gave > >> up before realising that KO is the prefix used by Kalingrad :) > >> > >> It's cool to browse a real project using Seaside and Mongo. The way > >> Smalltalkhub maps Mongo and Smalltalk objects is interesting. It seems > >> to be more explicit than the Voyage approach. Have you considered to use > >> Voyage or to extract the smalltalkhub mapper to a indenpendent package > >> (a bit like mongoid, moped and origin in ruby[1])? > >> > >> Anyway, thanks for open sourcing it! > >> > >> Fa > >> > >> [1]http://mongoid.org/en/mongoid/index.html > >> > >> On 20/09/12 03:32, Nicolas Petton wrote: > >>> > >>> No, there's no configuration yet. > >>> > >>> Nico > >>> > >>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:05:10 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Is there a Metacello configuration for it? > >>>> I'm trying to load it by hand but guessing the dependencies is tricky > >>>> for me. > >>>> > >>>> On 16/09/12 12:56, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2012-09-16, at 21:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Good work ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Where can the code be found/seen ? > >>>>> > >>>>> all in the latest pharo SmalltalkHubRepository browse. > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am especially interested in the last point. Has it something to do with (using) Zn ? > >>>>> > >>>>> yes, we basically did a HEAD request and returned false on 404, however > >>>>> Zn does 3 or so retries, and thus makes everything slow :). I don't know what > >>>>> the side-effects are, but we reduce the retryCount to 0, to get low response times. > >>>>> > >>>>> I thought that upon a valid 404 response there is no retry needed? (but I guess > >>>>> I miss something here :P) > >>>>> > >> > > > > -- > > Nicolas Petton > > http://nicolas-petton.fr > > > > -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub news

by Esteban Lorenzano

in fact, I already dropped old Voyage session cache for the one in SmalltalkHub, which was cooler than mine :) now is turn to Nico to check what can he use from Voyage, and if that makes sense ;) Esteban On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, in fact with Esteban we thought about merging our work or maybe I > will drop my layer and use Voyage. > > Nico > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:30:30 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Ok! >> >> I've managed to load it but haven't tried to run it (yet). I almost gave >> up before realising that KO is the prefix used by Kalingrad :) >> >> It's cool to browse a real project using Seaside and Mongo. The way >> Smalltalkhub maps Mongo and Smalltalk objects is interesting. It seems >> to be more explicit than the Voyage approach. Have you considered to use >> Voyage or to extract the smalltalkhub mapper to a indenpendent package >> (a bit like mongoid, moped and origin in ruby[1])? >> >> Anyway, thanks for open sourcing it! >> >> Fa >> >> [1]http://mongoid.org/en/mongoid/index.html >> >> On 20/09/12 03:32, Nicolas Petton wrote: >>> >>> No, there's no configuration yet. >>> >>> Nico >>> >>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:05:10 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Is there a Metacello configuration for it? >>>> I'm trying to load it by hand but guessing the dependencies is tricky >>>> for me. >>>> >>>> On 16/09/12 12:56, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-09-16, at 21:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good work ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Where can the code be found/seen ? >>>>> >>>>> all in the latest pharo SmalltalkHubRepository browse. >>>>> >>>>>> I am especially interested in the last point. Has it something to do with (using) Zn ? >>>>> >>>>> yes, we basically did a HEAD request and returned false on 404, however >>>>> Zn does 3 or so retries, and thus makes everything slow :). I don't know what >>>>> the side-effects are, but we reduce the retryCount to 0, to get low response times. >>>>> >>>>> I thought that upon a valid 404 response there is no retry needed? (but I guess >>>>> I miss something here :P) >>>>> >> > > -- > Nicolas Petton > http://nicolas-petton.fr >

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub news

by Nicolas Petton

Yes, in fact with Esteban we thought about merging our work or maybe I will drop my layer and use Voyage. Nico On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:30:30 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ok! > > I've managed to load it but haven't tried to run it (yet). I almost gave > up before realising that KO is the prefix used by Kalingrad :) > > It's cool to browse a real project using Seaside and Mongo. The way > Smalltalkhub maps Mongo and Smalltalk objects is interesting. It seems > to be more explicit than the Voyage approach. Have you considered to use > Voyage or to extract the smalltalkhub mapper to a indenpendent package > (a bit like mongoid, moped and origin in ruby[1])? > > Anyway, thanks for open sourcing it! > > Fa > > [1]http://mongoid.org/en/mongoid/index.html > > On 20/09/12 03:32, Nicolas Petton wrote: > > > > No, there's no configuration yet. > > > > Nico > > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:05:10 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is there a Metacello configuration for it? > >> I'm trying to load it by hand but guessing the dependencies is tricky > >> for me. > >> > >> On 16/09/12 12:56, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >>> > >>> On 2012-09-16, at 21:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Good work ! > >>>> > >>>> Where can the code be found/seen ? > >>> > >>> all in the latest pharo SmalltalkHubRepository browse. > >>> > >>>> I am especially interested in the last point. Has it something to do with (using) Zn ? > >>> > >>> yes, we basically did a HEAD request and returned false on 404, however > >>> Zn does 3 or so retries, and thus makes everything slow :). I don't know what > >>> the side-effects are, but we reduce the retryCount to 0, to get low response times. > >>> > >>> I thought that upon a valid 404 response there is no retry needed? (but I guess > >>> I miss something here :P) > >>> > -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [NB-Cog] New VMs Available

by Igor Stasenko

On 20 September 2012 19:36, Guy Hylton <guygantuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Igor, > > I have built my own Win32 VM in order to test NB 1.5, specifically the > callback changes. First I found that NativeBoostWin32>>VMModule was not > defined ... I set it to 'NBCog.exe' but > NBCallbackCodeGen>>CStackPointerAddress returns nil. As far as I can tell > the symbol is available in the module, nm -g returns _CStackPointer. > I didn't tried to run it on windows yet. i should probably implement primitives for getting those addresses instead of relying on exported C globals. On windows, #VMModule should answer the hInstance, i.e the handle of VM process, but i am not sure if it will work that way. Or try making this work: nil nbGetSymbolAddress: 'CStackPointer' module: '' ->>> @ 16r215274 > What have I missed? > > Thanks, Guy > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Please, read details here: >> >> >> http://dailyvmotion.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/new-vms-with-nativeboost-callb… >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] 2.0 is back in "usable" state

by Alexandre Bergel

Great work!! You deserve a flow of beer then!!! Alexandre On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot Esteban. It is nice to have an engineer when things start to look complicated :) > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I think Pharo 2.0 is back in an usable state :) > > Beware, that doesn't means that it is stable and bug free! > In particular, I think there are still some problems around RPackage and the new SystemAnnouncer, but you can resume using it and providing bug reports/fixes. > > Enjoy, > Esteban > > ps: That means tomorrow I will resume the integration of issues, etc. but the stability effort is still ongoing... > > > > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [NB-Cog] New VMs Available

by Guy Hylton

Igor, I have built my own Win32 VM in order to test NB 1.5, specifically the callback changes. First I found that NativeBoostWin32>>VMModule was not defined ... I set it to 'NBCog.exe' but NBCallbackCodeGen>>CStackPointerAddress returns nil. As far as I can tell the symbol is available in the module, nm -g returns _CStackPointer. What have I missed? Thanks, Guy On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please, read details here: > > > http://dailyvmotion.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/new-vms-with-nativeboost-callb… > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub news

by Francois Stephany

Ok! I've managed to load it but haven't tried to run it (yet). I almost gave up before realising that KO is the prefix used by Kalingrad :) It's cool to browse a real project using Seaside and Mongo. The way Smalltalkhub maps Mongo and Smalltalk objects is interesting. It seems to be more explicit than the Voyage approach. Have you considered to use Voyage or to extract the smalltalkhub mapper to a indenpendent package (a bit like mongoid, moped and origin in ruby[1])? Anyway, thanks for open sourcing it! Fa [1]http://mongoid.org/en/mongoid/index.html On 20/09/12 03:32, Nicolas Petton wrote: > > No, there's no configuration yet. > > Nico > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:05:10 -0700, Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there a Metacello configuration for it? >> I'm trying to load it by hand but guessing the dependencies is tricky >> for me. >> >> On 16/09/12 12:56, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >>> On 2012-09-16, at 21:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>>> Good work ! >>>> >>>> Where can the code be found/seen ? >>> >>> all in the latest pharo SmalltalkHubRepository browse. >>> >>>> I am especially interested in the last point. Has it something to do with (using) Zn ? >>> >>> yes, we basically did a HEAD request and returned false on 404, however >>> Zn does 3 or so retries, and thus makes everything slow :). I don't know what >>> the side-effects are, but we reduce the retryCount to 0, to get low response times. >>> >>> I thought that upon a valid 404 response there is no retry needed? (but I guess >>> I miss something here :P) >>>

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SubscriptionRegistry>>unsubscribeForEvent: disappeared in Pharo 2.0?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I do not know. Stef On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > hi! > > Is there a reason why this method has been removed in 2.0? I checked the google code site and I could not anything related to this. > > Maybe it has been added in 1.4 without being added to 2.0. Shall I provide a .cs with the method? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can you commit to SmalltalkHub?

by Guillermo Polito

I've been working from other office today. Now, what puzzles me is that I can query smalltalkhub, look at packages, versions, making diffs. But not commit. But ok, I guess it's the network configuration in here... :/ tx! On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > Hey guille, > > Works fine for me. > > " Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed > at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is > incorrect " > > Are you behind a firewall or something? > > Nico > > -- > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:07:22 +0200, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm having forbidden since this morning :/. > > > > (and yes, I've put my password) > > > > I can login into the website, but then I tried to update my password > > and the website shouted me: > > > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" " > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html><head> <meta > > http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> > > <title>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</title> <style > > type="text/css"></style> </head><body id=ERR_ACCESS_DENIED> <div id="titles"> > > <h1>ERROR</h1> <h2>The requested URL could not be retrieved</h2> > > </div> <hr> <div id="content"> <p>The following error was encountered > > while trying to retrieve the URL: <a href=" > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/hub/users/Guille"> > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/hub/users/Guille</a></p> <blockquote > > id="error"> <p><b>Access Denied.</b></p> </blockquote> <p>Access > > control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this > > time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is > > incorrect.</p> <p>Your cache administrator is <a > > href="mailto:webmaster > > > ?subject=CacheErrorInfo%20-%20ERR_ACCESS_DENIED&body=CacheHost%3A%20localhost%0D%0AErrPage%3A%20ERR_ACCESS_DENIED%0D%0AErr%3A%20%5Bnone%5D%0D%0ATimeStamp%3A%20Thu,%2020%20Sep%202012%2014%3A04%3A54%20GMT%0D%0A%0D%0AClientIP%3A%2010.1.160.167%0D%0A%0D%0AHTTP%20Request%3A%0D%0APUT%20%2Fhub%2Fusers%2FGuille%20HTTP%2F1.1%0AHost%3A% > > 20www.smalltalkhub.com > > > %0D%0AProxy-Connection%3A%20keep-alive%0D%0AContent-Length%3A%20578%0D%0AOrigin%3A%20http%3A%2F% > > 2Fwww.smalltalkhub.com > > > %0D%0AX-Requested-With%3A%20XMLHttpRequest%0D%0AUser-Agent%3A%20Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Macintosh%3B%20Intel%20Mac%20OS%20X%2010_7_4)%20AppleWebKit%2F537.1%20(KHTML,%20like%20Gecko)%20Chrome%2F21.0.1180.89%20Safari%2F537.1%0D%0AContent-Type%3A%20text%2Fjson%0D%0AAccept%3A%20*%2F*%0D%0AReferer%3A%20http%3A%2F% > > 2Fwww.smalltalkhub.com > %2F%0D%0AAccept-Encoding%3A%20gzip,deflate,sdch%0D%0AAccept-Language%3A%20en-US,en%3Bq%3D0.8%0D%0AAccept-Charset%3A%20ISO-8859-1,utf-8%3Bq%3D0.7,*%3Bq%3D0.3%0D%0ACookie%3A%20_smalltalkhub_u1%3DGuille%3B%20_smalltalkhub_u2%3D1232707383919415762177182989216592143327074266481%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A">webmaster</a>.</p> > > <br> </div> <hr> <div id="footer"> <p>Generated Thu, 20 Sep 2012 > > 14:04:54 GMT by localhost (squid/3.1.19)</p>  </div> </body></html> > > > > Is it only me? > > > > Guille, pissed off because can't commit > Non-text part: text/html > > -- > Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr >

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can you commit to SmalltalkHub?

by Nicolas Petton

Hey guille, Works fine for me. " Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect " Are you behind a firewall or something? Nico -- On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:07:22 +0200, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm having forbidden since this morning :/. > > (and yes, I've put my password) > > I can login into the website, but then I tried to update my password > and the website shouted me: > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" " > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html><head> <meta > http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> > <title>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</title> <style > type="text/css"></style> </head><body id=ERR_ACCESS_DENIED> <div id="titles"> > <h1>ERROR</h1> <h2>The requested URL could not be retrieved</h2> > </div> <hr> <div id="content"> <p>The following error was encountered > while trying to retrieve the URL: <a href=" > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/hub/users/Guille"> > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/hub/users/Guille</a></p> <blockquote > id="error"> <p><b>Access Denied.</b></p> </blockquote> <p>Access > control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this > time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is > incorrect.</p> <p>Your cache administrator is <a > href="mailto:webmaster > ?subject=CacheErrorInfo%20-%20ERR_ACCESS_DENIED&body=CacheHost%3A%20localhost%0D%0AErrPage%3A%20ERR_ACCESS_DENIED%0D%0AErr%3A%20%5Bnone%5D%0D%0ATimeStamp%3A%20Thu,%2020%20Sep%202012%2014%3A04%3A54%20GMT%0D%0A%0D%0AClientIP%3A%2010.1.160.167%0D%0A%0D%0AHTTP%20Request%3A%0D%0APUT%20%2Fhub%2Fusers%2FGuille%20HTTP%2F1.1%0AHost%3A% > 20www.smalltalkhub.com > %0D%0AProxy-Connection%3A%20keep-alive%0D%0AContent-Length%3A%20578%0D%0AOrigin%3A%20http%3A%2F% > 2Fwww.smalltalkhub.com > %0D%0AX-Requested-With%3A%20XMLHttpRequest%0D%0AUser-Agent%3A%20Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Macintosh%3B%20Intel%20Mac%20OS%20X%2010_7_4)%20AppleWebKit%2F537.1%20(KHTML,%20like%20Gecko)%20Chrome%2F21.0.1180.89%20Safari%2F537.1%0D%0AContent-Type%3A%20text%2Fjson%0D%0AAccept%3A%20*%2F*%0D%0AReferer%3A%20http%3A%2F% > 2Fwww.smalltalkhub.com%2F%0D%0AAccept-Encoding%3A%20gzip,deflate,sdch%0D%0AAccept-Language%3A%20en-US,en%3Bq%3D0.8%0D%0AAccept-Charset%3A%20ISO-8859-1,utf-8%3Bq%3D0.7,*%3Bq%3D0.3%0D%0ACookie%3A%20_smalltalkhub_u1%3DGuille%3B%20_smalltalkhub_u2%3D1232707383919415762177182989216592143327074266481%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A">webmaster</a>.</p> > <br> </div> <hr> <div id="footer"> <p>Generated Thu, 20 Sep 2012 > 14:04:54 GMT by localhost (squid/3.1.19)</p>  </div> </body></html> > > Is it only me? > > Guille, pissed off because can't commit Non-text part: text/html -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Sept. 20, 2012