June 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Benjamin < > benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> For initialize, if you use Nautilus: >> >> > Ben, would you recommend installing Nautilus? > Of course he will, he is the author ;) BTW, I also do recommend it. > If so, what's the installation steps? > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syst… > - select your class >> - CMD+SHIFT+I >> >> enjoy :) >> >> Ben >> >> On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and >> initialize >> >> methods for a new class? >> > >> > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the >> > code I've read. >> > >> > -- >> > Damien Cassou >> > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> > >> > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> > popular by not having them." James Iry >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > * > * > *Think different and code well*, > > -Conrad > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 15, 2012

[Pharo-project] Nautilus look & feel

by Stephan Eggermont

While a design competition is fine, there are still some things we can improve now without needing someone with taste :) When looking at a nautilus browser (in the moose daily build, ConfigurationOfNautilus-BenjaminVanRyseghem.238), I notice the following: Inconsistent use of space: - method and method category panes in the top row go 1px further down; - the four buttons in the middle have equal horizontal spacing, though they belong to three groups; - no space between SBD/IC and text pane; - the background of the selection downarrow of the history navigator should be one pixel larger up and down; - the selection downarrow should be centered in its background, and aligned center with SBD/IC; - the line between the text part and the arrow part of the history navigator should be removed to be consistent with the scrollbars. Why is Class bold? Why different fonts for SBD/IC and Groups/Hierarchy/Class/Comments? Inconsistent use of widgets: - SBD and IS use the same widget for two kinds of behavior (popup menu vs 1 of three choice); - SBD and Class/Instance button have similar behavior and different widgets; - SBD/IC use a rounded widget with very different lighting/shadow. Inconsistent use of color: - Graying out hierarchy means no selection possible. The grayed-out classes can be selected. The grayed-out History Navigator can be selected - SBD/IC widgets very much dominate because of the heavy shadows/dark gray & black outline; - The history navigator select is the only widget using a gradient. Hierarchy shows disabled, SBD & IC not. Calculation of horizontal width for package scrollbar is incorrect. Only SBD, IC show a hover text explanation. What is the meaning of the icons? TrueType has a kind of cube icon. Hover, left- and rightclick provide no information. Stephan

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Conrad Taylor

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For initialize, if you use Nautilus: > > Ben, would you recommend installing Nautilus? If so, what's the installation steps? > - select your class > - CMD+SHIFT+I > > enjoy :) > > Ben > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and > initialize > >> methods for a new class? > > > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > > code I've read. > > > > -- > > Damien Cassou > > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > > popular by not having them." James Iry > > > > > -- * * *Think different and code well*, -Conrad

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and initialize > > methods for a new class? > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > code I've read. > > > Hi, I would like to initialize the objects I create with some reasonable defaults and I don't want to have setters and getters for every instance variable. > #new calls #initialize by default. So the only thing you need to implement is the #initialize method on your class. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Conrad Taylor

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and > initialize > > methods for a new class? > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > code I've read. > > So, how do you create a new instance of a class? > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > -- * * *Think different and code well*, -Conrad

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Conrad Taylor

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and > initialize > > methods for a new class? > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > code I've read. > > Hi, I would like to initialize the objects I create with some reasonable defaults and I don't want to have setters and getters for every instance variable. -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > -- * * *Think different and code well*, -Conrad

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For initialize, if you use Nautilus: > > - select your class > - CMD+SHIFT+I > > Ben, you should move to somewhere OUTSIDE the menu "analyze" or rename analyze ;) > enjoy :) > > Ben > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and > initialize > >> methods for a new class? > > > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > > code I've read. > > > > -- > > Damien Cassou > > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > > popular by not having them." James Iry > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Benjamin

For initialize, if you use Nautilus: - select your class - CMD+SHIFT+I enjoy :) Ben On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and initialize >> methods for a new class? > > why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the > code I've read. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry >

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and initialize > methods for a new class? why do you need to implement #new so often? It's kind of rare in the code I've read. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

June 15, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto create new and initialize methods for new class?

by camille teruel

Yes, very dirty. 2012/6/15 camille teruel <camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> > Dirty way: > You can modify > Class>>subclass:instanceVariableNames:classVariableNames:poolDictionaries:category: > like this: > > subclass: t instanceVariableNames: f classVariableNames: d > poolDictionaries: s category: cat > "This is the standard initialization message for creating a new class as > a > subclass of an existing class (the receiver)." > | newClass | > newClass := (ClassBuilder new) > superclass: self > subclass: t > instanceVariableNames: f > classVariableNames: d > poolDictionaries: s > category: cat. > newClass compile: 'initialize'. > ^newClass. > > > 2012/6/15 Conrad Taylor <conradwt(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi, is there an automated setting which creates default new and >> initialize methods for a new class? BTW, I'm using Pharo 2.0-one-click. >> Well, I must go and thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> * >> * >> *Think different and code well*, >> >> -Conrad >> >> >> >

June 15, 2012