June 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] senders search symbols, class references shouldn't do it as well?

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > If I search senders of 'foo' I do get those method that has #foo inside. However, if I search class references to Bar, it doesn't found methods that have something like Smalltalk at: #Bar. > > shouldn't it also find this? > > > This is not really possible. "senders of" is actually "has this symbol in the literal array". > > the class references, it searches for class bindings in the literal array. > > > But what if class references search not only in the class bindings in the literal array but also symbol (as senders do) of its name (with case sensitive) ? > maybe... I wonder if it will not give strange false positives... What I would really like to have instead would be a higher level model for code that we could query *for real*. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

June 17, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20139

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

20139 ----- - Issue 6081: Add basenameWithoutExtension to FileReference and Path. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6081

June 17, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

+1 ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguctua(a)gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:48 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4 i for Pharo 1.4.1 no messy naming please. Let's care more about what we put under the hood, than on glossy cover. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 17, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20138

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

20138 ----- FS for real Scriptloader impacted fixes Stef and Camillo fighting the beast :)

June 17, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20137

by stephane ducasse

20137 ----- FS part monticello/scriptloader

June 17, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] senders search symbols, class references shouldn't do it as well?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > If I search senders of 'foo' I do get those method that has #foo inside. > However, if I search class references to Bar, it doesn't found methods that > have something like Smalltalk at: #Bar. > > shouldn't it also find this? > > > This is not really possible. "senders of" is actually "has this symbol in > the literal array". > > the class references, it searches for class bindings in the literal array. > > But what if class references search not only in the class bindings in the literal array but also symbol (as senders do) of its name (with case sensitive) ? > both are *very* simplistic. The system is not searching for "message > sends" or "class references" at all. > > What you want would mean far more analysis, with real semantical knowledge > that is not available on that level. > > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 17, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Moved to Nautilus for a week, I am now back to OB. At least I can > navigate through everything without weird things popping up in my face > everyone in a while (well, even with OB there are quite a bunch.). > > Good luck trying to make OB work in Pharo 2.0! > Just an example with OB (screenshot): Finder > pragma > click click on > the tree branch --> bam! error message. Look at the stracktrace, the > only thing I want is to close that. > > Phil > > > 2012/6/17 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > > > > philippeback wrote > >> > >> OB if we want traction with embarking new people into Pharo. > >> ... > > > > That makes sense. The only downside is that we will train people on one > > browser and almost immediately switch to a new one. I remember questions > > about how to "get the browser from PBE" (it was O2 I think). Although, I > > guess this is a good tradeoff vs. exposing newbies to a bleeding edge > tool > > under heavy development. > > > > Also, about that release date... > > > > Sean > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/start-thinking-on-summer-release-of-Pharo-1-4-tp46345… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > -- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges > Belgium > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 17, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20136

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

20136 ----- - Issue 6080: Fixing classBuilderTest. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6080

June 17, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Keymapping - Debugger

by phil＠highoctane.be

Am using 1.4 2012/6/17 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: >> >> There are. Editor's are in upon loading of KeyMappings. >> > > Of course, I was refering to Pharo2.0 which includes Keymapping by default > :).Â If you load Keymapping in Pharo 1.4 you will have some extra > configurations. > >> >> KMEditorsDefaultSettings>>defaultSettingsOn: aBuilder >> >> is what I used as inspiration. >> >> Phil >> >> 2012/6/17 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Since I was looking at Keymapping and debugger, I was looking for the >> >> preferences setting but couldn't find any. >> > >> > >> > There are no keymapping settings in the image (yet).Â All the >> > keymappings >> > are hardcoded as they used to be (and waiting us to migrate them) or >> > just >> > configured with keymapping without a setting. >> >> >> >> >> >> So, I kind of cloned what was elsewhere for using it with the >> >> debugger. I do not know where I can store this, so, here i the mcz. >> > >> > >> > Can you open an issue in the issue tracker and cc me? I'll have a look >> > :) >> > >> > Tx! >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Philippe Back >> >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> >> phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> >> http://philippeback.be >> >> >> >> High Octane SPRL >> >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> >> 1301 Bierges >> >> Belgium >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> http://philippeback.be >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> 1301 Bierges >> Belgium >> > -- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges Belgium

June 17, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Keymapping - Debugger

by Guillermo Polito

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > There are. Editor's are in upon loading of KeyMappings. > > Of course, I was refering to Pharo2.0 which includes Keymapping by default :). If you load Keymapping in Pharo 1.4 you will have some extra configurations. > KMEditorsDefaultSettings>>defaultSettingsOn: aBuilder > > is what I used as inspiration. > > Phil > > 2012/6/17 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > > wrote: > >> > >> Since I was looking at Keymapping and debugger, I was looking for the > >> preferences setting but couldn't find any. > > > > > > There are no keymapping settings in the image (yet). All the keymappings > > are hardcoded as they used to be (and waiting us to migrate them) or just > > configured with keymapping without a setting. > >> > >> > >> So, I kind of cloned what was elsewhere for using it with the > >> debugger. I do not know where I can store this, so, here i the mcz. > > > > > > Can you open an issue in the issue tracker and cc me? I'll have a look :) > > > > Tx! > > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Philippe Back > >> Dramatic Performance Improvements > >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > >> phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > >> http://philippeback.be > >> > >> High Octane SPRL > >> rue cour Boisacq 101 > >> 1301 Bierges > >> Belgium > > > > > > > > -- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > phil(a)highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges > Belgium > >

June 17, 2012