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Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

Who care ? On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Benjamin wrote: > So, dummy, not bad > > Ben > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > >> >> Is not a real example it is a foo bar example, so bad. >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Benjamin wrote: >> >>> Why is this example bad ? >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: >>> >>>> hi. >>>> JB ^^ >>>> You can execute this code for install: >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; >>>> package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. >>>> >>>> A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. >>>> OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector >>>> ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. >>>> >>>> For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to port an old smalltalk code tracer framework of mine to Pharo (was developped on the VisualWorks compiler) and I didn't manage to port it easily on the Pharo smalltalk compiler. >>>>> >>>>> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Thierry >>>>> -- >>>>> Thierry Goubier >>>>> CEA list >>>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>>>> France >>>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> Jean Baptiste Arnaud >>>> jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Best Regards >> Jean Baptiste Arnaud >> jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Best Regards Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Benjamin

So, dummy, not bad Ben On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > > Is not a real example it is a foo bar example, so bad. > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Benjamin wrote: > >> Why is this example bad ? >> >> Ben >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: >> >>> hi. >>> JB ^^ >>> You can execute this code for install: >>> >>> Gofer new >>> squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; >>> package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; >>> load. >>> >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. >>> >>> A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. >>> OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector >>> ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. >>> >>> For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'd like to port an old smalltalk code tracer framework of mine to Pharo (was developped on the VisualWorks compiler) and I didn't manage to port it easily on the Pharo smalltalk compiler. >>>> >>>> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Thierry >>>> -- >>>> Thierry Goubier >>>> CEA list >>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>>> France >>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>>> >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Jean Baptiste Arnaud >>> jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Best Regards > Jean Baptiste Arnaud > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com > > > > > > >

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Goubier Thierry

Le 21/06/2012 14:40, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a Ã©crit : > hi. > JB ^^ Sorry :-( > You can execute this code for install: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; > package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. Thanks. > A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. > OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector > ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. > > For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. Ok. I'll try to find my way through the package first. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

Is not a real example it is a foo bar example, so bad. On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Benjamin wrote: > Why is this example bad ? > > Ben > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > >> hi. >> JB ^^ >> You can execute this code for install: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; >> package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. >> >> A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. >> OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector >> ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. >> >> For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'd like to port an old smalltalk code tracer framework of mine to Pharo (was developped on the VisualWorks compiler) and I didn't manage to port it easily on the Pharo smalltalk compiler. >>> >>> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Thierry >>> -- >>> Thierry Goubier >>> CEA list >>> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>> France >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>> >> >> Best Regards >> Jean Baptiste Arnaud >> jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Best Regards Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Array size in inspector

by Mariano Martinez Peck

It doens't need to be StackOverflow necessary. We also have: "A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>, for exactly those kind of questions. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > Perhaps someone could update the mailing list page to mention > StackOverflow. > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/**mailman/listinfo/pharo-project<http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> > > > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> Davide Varvello wrote >> >> >>> Thanks Sean, >>> Sorry for the wrong list >>> >>> >>> >> >> No problem. We're just trying to make sure that all questions get >> answered, >> without overflowing the devs' mailboxes. >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Array-** >> size-in-inspector-**tp4635484p4635865.html<http://forum.world.st/Array-size-in-inspector-tp4635484p4635865.html> >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

ok On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: >>> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal >>> compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? >> >> I think it is there: >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OpalCompiler >> > > There is a problem: this is not finished. The problem is that it is not really useful right now. As I understand (stop me if i am wrong) , it doesn't really matters, the idea is to put annotation on an ast for inject code. I think it is usable in state for that use. Maybe not for full remplacement of the current compiler. But i thinks, it is painless to implement with opal comparing to the energy needed for change the old one. > And the current work is done on top of 2.0, this you can find here: > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarcusDenker/Opal > > with the jenkins here: > > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/OpalCompiler/ > > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > Best Regards Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Array size in inspector

by Ben Coman

Perhaps someone could update the mailing list page to mention StackOverflow. http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Davide Varvello wrote > >> Thanks Sean, >> Sorry for the wrong list >> >> > > No problem. We're just trying to make sure that all questions get answered, > without overflowing the devs' mailboxes. > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Array-size-in-inspector-tp4635484p4635865.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Benjamin

Why is this example bad ? Ben On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > hi. > JB ^^ > You can execute this code for install: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; > package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. > > A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. > OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector > ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. > > For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to port an old smalltalk code tracer framework of mine to Pharo (was developped on the VisualWorks compiler) and I didn't manage to port it easily on the Pharo smalltalk compiler. >> >> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Thierry >> -- >> Thierry Goubier >> CEA list >> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >> France >> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >> > > Best Regards > Jean Baptiste Arnaud > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > >

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

hi. JB ^^ You can execute this code for install: Gofer new squeaksource: 'OpalCompiler'; package:'ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpalCompiler) load. A bad example : an instance of OCClosureCompiler will return you the method node. OCClosureCompiler new compile: 'selector ^1+1' in: TestObject classified: 'examples' notifying: nil ifFail: []. For put annotation on AST maybe marcus can explain better than me. On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to port an old smalltalk code tracer framework of mine to Pharo (was developped on the VisualWorks compiler) and I didn't manage to port it easily on the Pharo smalltalk compiler. > > I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? > > Thanks, > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > Best Regards Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

June 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal ?

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: >> I met J-C. Arnaud in Rennes yesterday and he told me I should try the Opal >> compiler. So, how do I load Opal in a Pharo 1.4 image ? > > I think it is there: > http://www.squeaksource.com/OpalCompiler > There is a problem: this is not finished. The problem is that it is not really useful right now. And the current work is done on top of 2.0, this you can find here: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarcusDenker/Opal with the jenkins here: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/OpalCompiler/ Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

June 21, 2012