June 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp?

by Sean P. DeNigris

Dale Henrichs wrote > > Sean and I _are_ working on a new version of Metacello that will be more > robust in the face of SqueakSource instability.. > Okay, I pushed the new config (ConfigurationOfMetacello-SeanDeNigris.695) to http://squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository and http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello The bootstrap should now only load the bare minimum to load configs (Metacello-{Base, Core, MC, Platform}). If you do explicitly load dependent projects, it will also check the LatAm mirror for them if sqs is down... Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/could-metacello-be-hosted-on-ss3-or-smalltalkhub-or-n… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some Nautilus feedback

by Sean P. DeNigris

Torsten Bergmann wrote > > Its better to have an option/setting "double Click Opens new Browser" for > that since I like the current way > Maybe I'm missing something... you're saying you like that when you double-click on a new item, you end up with two browsers open on that item?! I'm intrigued... what's your use case? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-Nautilus-feedback-tp4636166p4636180.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals:

by Sean P. DeNigris

Steven Baker wrote > > I'm working on this. Slowly. > The Phexample matchers are very close to Rspec and work well... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-tp4636050p4636176.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals:

by Steven R. Baker

I'm working on this. Slowly. -Steven On 2012-06-22, at 11:13 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2012-06-22, at 16:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> So, is clarity when executing vs clarity when reading (because "a=b" is a lot clearer that "a equals: b"). >> Is that? >> Don't get me wrong... I'm not struggling against it, I'm just trying to understand the issue. >> >> Esteban > > yes :) > > a should = b > > would be somehow in the middle :P > >

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals:

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-06-22, at 16:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > So, is clarity when executing vs clarity when reading (because "a=b" is a lot clearer that "a equals: b"). > Is that? > Don't get me wrong... I'm not struggling against it, I'm just trying to understand the issue. > > Esteban yes :) a should = b would be somehow in the middle :P

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some Nautilus feedback

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Torsten Bergmann wrote >> >> - use Tabs as in Dolphins browser >> - use a real toggle button... >> - use two Radio Buttons... >> > Either of these sound like better options, but the tabs in general would be > *really* exciting. I want tabs on the method pane for "all | public | > private" and a toggle/tab/radio for "just local methods" for methods up the > superclass chain, maybe even with a methodsBelow: parentClass option. That > would be powerful! +1 Tabs! but occupying the whole class+protocols+methods area (otherwise it will be awkward) Esteban

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals:

by Esteban Lorenzano

So, is clarity when executing vs clarity when reading (because "a=b" is a lot clearer that "a equals: b"). Is that? Don't get me wrong... I'm not struggling against it, I'm just trying to understand the issue. Esteban On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> >> I hate to go and re-eavluate the code to see what was wrong during >> comparison... >> ...self assert: self someExpressionReturningFalse = self >> someExpressionReturningTrue >> how the heck do you know what went wrong? >> > Yes, that's exactly it! > > > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> >> I don't like it particularly, it feels too java-ish, I prefer much more >> the "shoulder" >> framework written in bern. >> self someExpressionReturningFalse should = self >> someExpressionReturningTrue >> > +1! > > Re the framework, do you mean Phexample? I *really* like the matchers, like > the one you mentioned above. Although I don't like the way tests build on > each other. It's a great idea, but a failing given should cause the test to > be skipped, which we don't have in Pharo (the best we can do is probably > have it be an error, which is better than a failing test, but not by much) > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-tp4636050p4636136.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] Some Nautilus feedback

by Torsten Bergmann

>Cool! I didn't know about that. One thing though... since the original >browser changes to the clicked-on item also, I don't understand the purpose >of this feature. It seems like it'd be much more valuable to leave the first >browser on the current selection and open a new browser on the >double-clicked item. Its better to have an option/setting "double Click Opens new Browser" for that since I like the current way Bye T. -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp?

by Dale Henrichs

Hit this link: http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ and follow the instructions for hooking up the mirror...works even when SqueakSource is down... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:59:04 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp? | | Teach a developer to hack Metacello ... he can load Metacello. | | Teach a developer to use the latam mirror ... he can load the world! | | Dale | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:55:35 AM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or | | smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp? | | | | I thought that the latAm mirror for squeaksource was a good | | solution... | | | | ConfigurationOfHelp is not the only configuration hosted on | | SqueakSource ... so anything I might do for Metacello is merely a | | bandaid ... | | | | The latam mirror is a solution... | | | | Dale | | | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | | | From: "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> | | | To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | | Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:50:34 AM | | | Subject: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or | | | smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp? | | | | | | Stef wrote: | | | >because right now we cannot load configurations because it | | | >requires | | | >>configuration of Help and | | | >squeaksource is done. | | | >It would be good to have a small version of metacello just | | | >loading | | | >the bare >minimum. | | | | | | to Dale: | | | Especially since "configuration of Help" is not required anymore. | | | Help system is in Pharo and Squeak included. | | | | | | A "core" without help would be good | | | | | | Thx | | | T. | | | | | | -- | | | Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir | | | belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! | | | https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de | | | | | | | | | | | |

June 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptManager config in 1.4

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Thanks a lot, Torsten ! With your instructions I am finally starting packaging some of my projects with Metacello. Knowing that they will end up in the config browser is an excellent motivation I think. Sven On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Why is the repo for the metacello config browser for 2.0 empty ? >> Are these repos world writeable ? > > Usually the config browser repos should be filled with configs that work > in a stable release. > > So www.squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo14 includes anything that > has proved to work on Pharo 1.4 and by copying the config from > project repos or www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository to > www.squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo14 it will appear in the > list of Configuration Browser. > > I wrote it as a simple replacement for SqueakMap and for people > like me who dont remember loading scripts and want to use the > mouse for loading ;) > > And yes the repo for 1.4 is writeable. If you have a config that > is known to work for 1.4. you can copy it there and it will > be available. Make sure it contains a symbolic stable version > for instance in ConfigurationOfScriptManager you will find: > > > stable: spec > <symbolicVersion: #stable> > > spec for: #'pharo1.1.x' version: '1.2'. > spec for: #'pharo1.2.x' version: '1.2'. > spec for: #'pharo1.3.x' version: '1.3'. > spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '1.4'. > > > Pharo 2.0 is neither stable nor released thats why the repo is still > empty. Also the 2.0 repo is on SmalltalkHub (http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Packages20/main) and I dont > know whats planned here. Dont know about the state/progress of > SmalltalkHub and wonder why we dont use a > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20. > > Stef: any comments here? > > Bye > T. > -- > NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! > Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a >

June 22, 2012