June 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Some Nautilus feedback

by Esteban Lorenzano

Pharo 2.0 already has tabs. Look at latest Configurations Browser, for instance. Esteban On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Doru > > what is the new tab implementation you did for Glamour? > Because I would like to integrate it into Pharo so that Ben can really build tabs (but with a good tab implementation). > > Stef > > On Jun 22, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> >> On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >>> Torsten Bergmann wrote >>>> >>>> - use Tabs as in Dolphins browser >>>> - use a real toggle button... >>>> - use two Radio Buttons... >>>> >>> Either of these sound like better options, but the tabs in general would be >>> *really* exciting. I want tabs on the method pane for "all | public | >>> private" and a toggle/tab/radio for "just local methods" for methods up the >>> superclass chain, maybe even with a methodsBelow: parentClass option. That >>> would be powerful! >> >> +1 Tabs! >> but occupying the whole class+protocols+methods area (otherwise it will be awkward) >> >> Esteban > >

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] FileSystem and file extensions

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

So we fucked up a bit :). What is the exact problem? Stef >> What happened with this issue?! I see that extension still returns all the >> "extensions", even though there was consensus in the mailing list that the >> extension was the thing after the last dot. >> >> I strongly disagree with this choice. Besides the fact that it breaks >> everything (can't recognize mcz's, st's), how about this: 'MyPackage.1.mcz'. >> Is 1 an extension?! No!!! Please reconsider... > > that is awkward :) > > we did a fix according to the previous posts ;), nah we just don't know > how to program :P > > => reopen the issue!

June 23, 2012

[Pharo-project] better tab implementation

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi doru is the better tab implementation based on LazyTabPage LazyTabGroupMorph LazyTablPageAnnouncement ? I'm extracting them so that ben can improve nautilus. Stef

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks a lot!!! I will try that. Having a small core is important because we are really planning to use Metacello to manage pharo core. Stef On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Dale Henrichs wrote >> >> Sean and I _are_ working on a new version of Metacello that will be more >> robust in the face of SqueakSource instability.. >> > > Okay, I pushed the new config (ConfigurationOfMetacello-SeanDeNigris.695) to > http://squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository and > http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello > > The bootstrap should now only load the bare minimum to load configs > (Metacello-{Base, Core, MC, Platform}). > > If you do explicitly load dependent projects, it will also check the LatAm > mirror for them if sqs is down... > > Cheers, > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/could-metacello-be-hosted-on-ss3-or-smalltalkhub-or-n… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] could metacello be hosted on ss3 or smalltalkhub or not load configurationOfHelp?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

The problem is that metacello load help which I do not care when loading another project and help is probably one squeak source :) Stef On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote >> >> because right now we cannot load configurations because it requires >> configuration of Help and >> squeaksource is done. >> It would be good to have a small version of metacello just loading the >> bare minimum. >> > > Sh*t, I'm working on this with Dale, have one small change to make... I'll > do it now... > > Here's a workaround. Use this instead of relying on the Metacello bootstrap. > It enabled me to load the untrusted stable version of FFI via the Metacello > Browser: > Gofer it > url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello'; > version: 'Metacello-Base-DaleHenrichs.19'; > version: 'Metacello-Core-dkh.468'; > version: 'Metacello-MC-dkh.531'; > version: 'Metacello-Platform.pharo-dkh.27'; > load. > > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/could-metacello-be-hosted-on-ss3-or-smalltalkhub-or-n… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Some Nautilus feedback

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Doru what is the new tab implementation you did for Glamour? Because I would like to integrate it into Pharo so that Ben can really build tabs (but with a good tab implementation). Stef On Jun 22, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> Torsten Bergmann wrote >>> >>> - use Tabs as in Dolphins browser >>> - use a real toggle button... >>> - use two Radio Buttons... >>> >> Either of these sound like better options, but the tabs in general would be >> *really* exciting. I want tabs on the method pane for "all | public | >> private" and a toggle/tab/radio for "just local methods" for methods up the >> superclass chain, maybe even with a methodsBelow: parentClass option. That >> would be powerful! > > +1 Tabs! > but occupying the whole class+protocols+methods area (otherwise it will be awkward) > > Esteban

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptManager config in 1.4

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Sven we are starting to work on extending versioner and building a tools to generate configuration but it is not ready yet :) Probably ready for ESUG. > Thanks a lot, Torsten ! > > With your instructions I am finally starting packaging some of my projects with Metacello. > > Knowing that they will end up in the config browser is an excellent motivation I think. > > Sven > > On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >>> Why is the repo for the metacello config browser for 2.0 empty ? >>> Are these repos world writeable ? >> >> Usually the config browser repos should be filled with configs that work >> in a stable release. >> >> So www.squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo14 includes anything that >> has proved to work on Pharo 1.4 and by copying the config from >> project repos or www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository to >> www.squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo14 it will appear in the >> list of Configuration Browser. >> >> I wrote it as a simple replacement for SqueakMap and for people >> like me who dont remember loading scripts and want to use the >> mouse for loading ;) >> >> And yes the repo for 1.4 is writeable. If you have a config that >> is known to work for 1.4. you can copy it there and it will >> be available. Make sure it contains a symbolic stable version >> for instance in ConfigurationOfScriptManager you will find: >> >> >> stable: spec >> <symbolicVersion: #stable> >> >> spec for: #'pharo1.1.x' version: '1.2'. >> spec for: #'pharo1.2.x' version: '1.2'. >> spec for: #'pharo1.3.x' version: '1.3'. >> spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '1.4'. >> >> >> Pharo 2.0 is neither stable nor released thats why the repo is still >> empty. Also the 2.0 repo is on SmalltalkHub (http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Packages20/main) and I dont >> know whats planned here. Dont know about the state/progress of >> SmalltalkHub and wonder why we dont use a >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20. >> >> Stef: any comments here? >> >> Bye >> T. >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! >> Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a >> > >

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] How to contribute to Pharo book

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I have just created an account for both, Philipe and Hernan. I have sent you privately the username and password. Cheers, On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Me too. > > > 2012/6/23 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > >> Ok, I'd like to add some nice documentation to the Pharo book. >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> 2012/6/22 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> >> >>> Me wrote >>> >How can we expect people to contribute to the collabroactive >>> >book when the section on "how to contribute" is empty? >>> > >>> >http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Contribute/ContributeToPharoBook >>> >>> Whoever changed it today: thanks! >>> >>> Thx >>> T. >>> -- >>> NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! >>> Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> HernÃ¡n Morales >> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >> Internal: 422 >> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >> >> > > > -- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be| Web: > http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges > Belgium > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] How to contribute to Pharo book

by phil＠highoctane.be

Me too. 2012/6/23 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > Ok, I'd like to add some nice documentation to the Pharo book. > > HernÃ¡n > > 2012/6/22 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > >> Me wrote >> >How can we expect people to contribute to the collabroactive >> >book when the section on "how to contribute" is empty? >> > >> >http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Contribute/ContributeToPharoBook >> >> Whoever changed it today: thanks! >> >> Thx >> T. >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! >> Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a >> >> > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Morales > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > Internal: 422 > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. > > -- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges Belgium

June 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] compiled method inherits from Collection?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

impressive :) >> but it could live with basicAt:/basicAt:put: just well. > Well, I tried changing it (proceeding all warnings not to do it) to a variableByteSubclass: of Object (which implements at:/at:put:). > After recompileAll'ing, and then using a 1.4 image normally only a single sender of #last (CodeHolder>>#didCodeChangeElsewhere, seemed like a candidate to rewrite using trailer instead anyways) was encountered as user of collection methods. > > At least it didn't crash the VM, so I guess it might be an option :)

June 23, 2012