May 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Esteban Lorenzano

grrr. "we shouldn't" :) On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > oops... yep, my mistake. You see, we should use copy&paste ;) > > but Sven is right :P > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > >> >> On 14 May 2012, at 15:54, Damien Cassou wrote: >> >> > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} >> > >> > your #with: is suspicious :-) >> > >> > -- >> > Damien Cassou >> > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> > >> > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> > popular by not having them." James Iry >> > >> >> He meant, >> >> Dictionary withAll: {#one->1. #two->2} >> >> And he is right: the #withAll: comes down to a #addAll: with expects >> another keyedCollection, not a collection of associations. >> >> Sven >> > >

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Esteban Lorenzano

oops... yep, my mistake. You see, we should use copy&paste ;) but Sven is right :P On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > > On 14 May 2012, at 15:54, Damien Cassou wrote: > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} > > > > your #with: is suspicious :-) > > > > -- > > Damien Cassou > > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > > popular by not having them." James Iry > > > > He meant, > > Dictionary withAll: {#one->1. #two->2} > > And he is right: the #withAll: comes down to a #addAll: with expects > another keyedCollection, not a collection of associations. > > Sven >

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Camillo Bruni

maybe we should even start considering again replacing dict + set with something more standard that internally relies on buckets instead of associations. I've shown in my master thesis that the bucket implementation performs slightly better or the at least the same in various use-cases. On 2012-05-14, at 15:54, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} > > your #with: is suspicious :-) > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry >

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 14 May 2012, at 15:54, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} > > your #with: is suspicious :-) > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > He meant, Dictionary withAll: {#one->1. #two->2} And he is right: the #withAll: comes down to a #addAll: with expects another keyedCollection, not a collection of associations. Sven

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Esteban Lorenzano

maybe :) I use #with: a lot, but I agree that one of the two approaches is wrong... it should be a coherent API. Esteban On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} > > your #with: is suspicious :-) > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > >

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} your #with: is suspicious :-) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Singleton access selector

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > > > > Indeed. For me it depends in the case. > > Fair enough, but let's have a protocol. For example, UIManager default... > From Mac dictionary: > default: "a preselected option... when no alternative is specified by the > user" > Is that really what we mean? I don't think so. It should be current. > > SystemAnnouncer is a very special class. It gets two identically > implemented > methods, #announcer and #current ;-) > > So how about: > uniqueInstance -> There can be only one > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AoOa-Fz2kw) > current -> There are many like it, but this one is mine (couldn't find the > clip from Full Metal Jacket) > default -> Use this if you don't have any better ideas > +1 > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Singleton-access-selector-tp4630062p4630137.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Singleton access selector

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > > Indeed. For me it depends in the case. Fair enough, but let's have a protocol. For example, UIManager default... >From Mac dictionary: default: "a preselected option... when no alternative is specified by the user" Is that really what we mean? I don't think so. It should be current. SystemAnnouncer is a very special class. It gets two identically implemented methods, #announcer and #current ;-) So how about: uniqueInstance -> There can be only one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AoOa-Fz2kw) current -> There are many like it, but this one is mine (couldn't find the clip from Full Metal Jacket) default -> Use this if you don't have any better ideas -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Singleton-access-selector-tp4630062p4630137.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 14, 2012

[Pharo-project] bug on dictionary?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I have this issue: Dictionary with: #one->'ONE' with: #two->'TWO' "This gives me a correct Dictionary with keys #one, #two and values 'ONE', 'TWO'" Dictionary withAll: {#one->1 with: #two->2} "This gives me a Dictionary with keys 1,1 and values #one->'ONE', #two->'TWO' So... I think one of both is incorrect... or at least, the API sucks because is too confusing. cheers, Esteban

May 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Notify progress with Announcements instead of Exceptions

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > Issue 5874: [ENH]: Notify progress with Announcements instead of > Exceptions > Why do we measure progress #from: a value? Has anyone ever put a value other than 0 here? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Notify-progress-with-Announcements-instead-of-Excepti… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 14, 2012