May 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Progress bar in the top left

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi guys. Some time I ago, I submitted an issue that puts the progress bar not in the middle of the screen but on the top left. I think it is much better since it does not disturb you. Now it seems that, or my change got accidently lost or someoone else put the previous behavior. So...was that on purpose or not? thanks -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Igor Stasenko

On 23 May 2012 10:10, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Mariano, can you please change your blog >> and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) >> > > Actualy, that post is a receipie that you have to follow step by step > EXACTLY what I do. That way you are 99% probably you will be able to build > the VM. > If Santiago followed my blog, he did it wrong, but I didn't use Pharo 1.4. > Anyway, what you say is explained in the second part: > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/building-the-vm-second-part/ > > BTW, I just addedÂ a link to that from the first part. > > >> >> because it is dozen time, when people blindly copy pasting the code, and >> it of course doesn't works >> :) > > > Yes it does. Perfectly. But you have to follow all the instructions. The > only way to have a reproducible build is to have explicit versions of > everything. And that's what I did and that's why people can build a VM even > 1 year later. All you need to do is to follow the steps. Once you are a VM > hacker then you can experiment with the bleedingEdge. > I agree with all you say. And this was our goal - be able to reproduce built. But do you think everyone here is so patient to do all steps and don't try to outsmart boring doc and jump over stages? :) At least , leave the message somewhere .. bold and red "Notice for impatient: DO NOT copy-paste this code snippet, if you want to build most recent VM, this code is NOT for it" -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 23, 2012

[Pharo-project] Pressed Morph feedback on PharoTheme

by Goubier Thierry

I tried to add some feedback when manipulating scrollbars and buttons in the default Pharo Theme. Adding the following four methods to PharoTheme gives a reversed look when clicking on a scrollbar or a button : PharoTheme>>buttonPressedFillStyleFor: aButton "Return the pressed button fillStyle for the given button." (aButton valueOfProperty: #noFill ifAbsent: [false]) ifTrue: [^ SolidFillStyle color: Color transparent ]. ^ self glamorousReverseFillStyleFor: aButton height: aButton height PharoTheme>>glamorousReverseFillStyleFor: aMorph height: anInteger "Return the reversed button fillStyle for the given button." | baseColor | baseColor := self glamorousBaseColorFor: aMorph. ^ self glamorousReverseFillStyleWithBaseColor: baseColor for: aMorph height: anInteger PharoTheme>>glamorousReverseFillStyleWithBaseColor: aColor for: aMorph height: anInteger | top bottom | top := aColor twiceLighter. bottom := aColor. ^(GradientFillStyle ramp: { 0.0->bottom. 0.7->top.}) origin: aMorph bounds origin; direction: 0 @ anInteger; radial: false PharoTheme>>scrollbarPressedThumbFillStyleFor: aScrollbar "Return the pressed scrollbar fillStyle for the given scrollbar." ^ (self glamorousReverseFillStyleWithBaseColor: aScrollbar paneColor for: aScrollbar height: aScrollbar height) direction: (aScrollbar bounds isWide ifTrue: [0 @ aScrollbar height] ifFalse: [aScrollbar width @ 0]) It makes the default interaction a lot more reactive (i.e. you notice on screen when you are pressing on a button). Side note about UI changes in Nautilus: will there be any changes about the Groups/Hierarchy/Class/Comments buttons ? I have a hard time getting used to them (lack of selection/state clues, unusual behavior for buttons). Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > yeah... problem is that way they are just "compile monkeys", repeating the > work jenkins already do. > I'd want people to be able to learn and contribute... > > +99999 > best, > Esteban > > On May 23, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 23 May 2012 06:51, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > >> > >> Igor Stasenko wrote > >>> > >>> Mariano, can you please change your blog > >>> and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) > >>> > >> > >> Why not just instruct them to download the sources & vmmaker image from > >> Jenkins blessed? Then they will always be compatible and only > susceptible to > >> changes in the vmmaker api... > >> > > > > because then it will be not from scratch. > > of course i using image(s) vmmaker built by jenkins, where all stuff > > already preloaded. > > but it important bit of knowledge, which people should know how things > rolling. > > > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Posible-bug-tp4631484p4631500.html > >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko. > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Mariano, can you please change your blog > and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) > > Actualy, that post is a receipie that you have to follow step by step EXACTLY what I do. That way you are 99% probably you will be able to build the VM. If Santiago followed my blog, he did it wrong, but I didn't use Pharo 1.4. Anyway, what you say is explained in the second part: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/building-the-vm-second-part/ BTW, I just added a link to that from the first part. > because it is dozen time, when people blindly copy pasting the code, and > it of course doesn't works > :) > Yes it does. Perfectly. But you have to follow all the instructions. The only way to have a reproducible build is to have explicit versions of everything. And that's what I did and that's why people can build a VM even 1 year later. All you need to do is to follow the steps. Once you are a VM hacker then you can experiment with the bleedingEdge. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sugar-devel] Dr.Geo on XO 1

by Hilaire Fernandes

My installation script does not work with 1.3 and 2.0. Probably the cleaning phase broke, not sure Hilaire On 21/05/2012 22:00, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > hilaire > > could you try a 20 image? > > Stef > > On May 21, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> >> Bert mentionned: >> >> I could also reproduce it in a virtual Ubuntu 12 with 768 MB RAM (!) but >> no swap. Top reports: >> >> Mem: 766204k total, 601588k used, 164616k free, 45624k buffers >> Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 277024k cached >> >> but DrGeo still crashes. >> >> OTOH, Etoys runs fine using the same Squeak VM on the same system (and >> on XO-1). So I wonder what the new DrGeo does differently ... >> -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeah... problem is that way they are just "compile monkeys", repeating the work jenkins already do. I'd want people to be able to learn and contribute... best, Esteban On May 23, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 23 May 2012 06:51, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >> Igor Stasenko wrote >>> >>> Mariano, can you please change your blog >>> and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) >>> >> >> Why not just instruct them to download the sources & vmmaker image from >> Jenkins blessed? Then they will always be compatible and only susceptible to >> changes in the vmmaker api... >> > > because then it will be not from scratch. > of course i using image(s) vmmaker built by jenkins, where all stuff > already preloaded. > but it important bit of knowledge, which people should know how things rolling. > >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Posible-bug-tp4631484p4631500.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Before-conference beer

by Camillo Bruni

not too much place unless you eat :/ and they're ruthless when it comes to get rid of you... dunno, maybe we can just try? and if it doesn't work we chose another one from around the station (you have our contact so send an sms with your description and we come and fetch you).. On 2012-05-22, at 20:54, Francisco Garau wrote: > How about if we set for a place? -- I've found this one in front of the station: > > http://g.co/maps/98sd7 > http://www.les3brasseurs.com/ > > I am arriving around 9pm. > > - Francisco > > On 22 May 2012 18:59, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Marcus wrote: > >>On May 22, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> otherwise a good meeting point is in front of the old trainstation Lille Flandres (about 200m / 1 metro stop from Lille Europe) > > > >Yes, in front of the main entrance of Lille Flanders is a good meeting spot. > > Ok. 20.00 I'll be at the front of the main entrance of Lille Flanders. > > Stephan > > >

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Igor Stasenko

On 23 May 2012 06:51, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Igor Stasenko wrote >> >> Mariano, can you please change your blog >> and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) >> > > Why not just instruct them to download the sources & vmmaker image from > Jenkins blessed? Then they will always be compatible and only susceptible to > changes in the vmmaker api... > because then it will be not from scratch. of course i using image(s) vmmaker built by jenkins, where all stuff already preloaded. but it important bit of knowledge, which people should know how things rolling. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Posible-bug-tp4631484p4631500.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Posible bug

by Sean P. DeNigris

Igor Stasenko wrote > > Mariano, can you please change your blog > and replace '1.5' with 'how the hell i know' (big bold red letters) > Why not just instruct them to download the sources & vmmaker image from Jenkins blessed? Then they will always be compatible and only susceptible to changes in the vmmaker api... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Posible-bug-tp4631484p4631500.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 23, 2012