May 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Korean how to ?

by Serge Stinckwich

Hi Hilaire, i know some Koreans Smalltalkers that might help you. Regards, On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)edu.ge.ch> wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to translate Dr. Geo in Korean. Does any Pharo-ers has any > experiences or tips regarding the font I can use for that and potential > issue I may have. > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu > > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

May 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] Korean how to ?

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hello, I would like to translate Dr. Geo in Korean. Does any Pharo-ers has any experiences or tips regarding the font I can use for that and potential issue I may have. Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

May 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20096

by Marcus Denker

20096 ----- - add home to all repos - cleanupforrelease -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] Plan/discussion/communication around new object format

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi eliot do you have a description of the new object format you want to introduce? Then what is your schedule? I would like to see if we can allocate igor/esteban time before we run out of money to help on that important topic. Now the solution is unclear and I did not see any document where we can evaluate and plan how we can help. So do you want help on that topic? Then how can people contribute if any? Stef

May 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Working directory

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-05-26, at 06:41, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 05:59:17PM -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Igor Stasenko wrote >>> >>> we should integrate the chdir fix to osprocess >>> into jenkins vms >>> >> >> Oops, I took the error handler off the wrong call... >>> ??OSProcess thisOSProcess chDir: ospPwd. >> should have been >>> ??[ OSProcess thisOSProcess chDir: ospPwd ] on: Exception do: []. >> >> And, the question still stands as to whether OSP and FS should have two >> separate concepts of the working directory... > > Yes. They probably represent different concepts, so it is OK if they are > implemented differently. I don't think so... if we can unify them we should! And in this case I would say its simply a matter of calling the right c-function? And I would even say by solely relying on the OS' working directory implementation you can avoid some nasty issues we have with the working directory right now. For instance on OSX the whole thing doesn't behave that nicely. > What is a "working directory"? And for that matter, what is a "directory"? > These are concepts and metaphors that have been used in various ways by > some (but not all) operating systems, and that do not automatically have > a well defined meaning independent of those metaphors and operating systems. > There is really no such thing as "current working directory" in Squeak/Pharo, > so if you want to create such a concept you are free to do so in any way > you please. well on all unix there is a very clear precise definition of it "getcwd()"! and on all decent platforms there's a more or less clear notion of what is a file and what is a directory? Talking about Pharo, which platforms do we target? - Linux - OS X - Win maybe I am wrong, but I think we could assume a common denominator here? (Using python and ruby yields to the same results AFAIK) > With respect to OSProcess, it is intentionally maintained separately > from Squeak/Pharo and IMO should remain that way. It provides access to > the external platform, which is useful. But the metaphorical desktop > objects (files, desktops, file folders, etc) are artifacts of various > operating systems and computing traditions, and there is no "right way" > to represent the concept of a current working directory. OSProcess > attempts to report CWD from the point of view of the external platform, > but that does not make it right. Indeed specific locations are to be modeled differently, see FileLocator for that reason. > It is perfectly legitimate for FS to define a concept of current working > directory, and hopefully this would have a clear definition in terms of > how it is to be used in the image. But there is no reason to expect that > this definition of "current working directory" will be the same as the > "current working directory" as understood by Unix, Windows, Android, or > other computing platforms, some of which may not have any concept of > "directory" at all. > > CommandShell also has a concept of current working directory, and this > is also different from the CWD of OSProcess. CommandShell attempts to > behave more like a shell, and when running on Windows it keeps track > of the current volume (C: drive, D: drive, etc) in addition to the current > working directory path associated with each volume. Again, then is platform > dependent, and there is no particular reason to expect this concept of > "current working directory" to make sense outside of the operating > system that it is emulating. > > Dave > >

May 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-conf] Pharo Sprint â Saturday 10h00 â RMoD Lab

by Esteban Lorenzano

I'm coming after lunch too (sorry, I need to finish some issues here) in the mean time, I'm trying to run the iOS vm on retina display. On May 26, 2012, at 8:14 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > camillo > > I will come after lunch. > > Stef > On May 25, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> We would like to invite you to a Pharo Sprint on saturday at 10h00: >> >> http://www.doodle.com/t5uv5fhmm7adi6cs >> >> It will be held in the RMoD lab: >> >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/contact >> >> The entrance will be closed and can only be opened with a badge. >> For those who standing in front of a closed door, call one of the >> following badge-owners: >> >> Camillo Bruni +33 7 86 95 40 78 >> Marcus Denker +33 3 62 65 52 58 >> >> see you! >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-conf mailing list > Pharo-conf(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-conf

May 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] R: Book search: PL history and paradigms

by Lorenzo Schiavina

+1 _____ Da: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] Per conto di Hernan Wilkinson Inviato: venerdÃ¬ 25 maggio 2012 23.57 A: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-project] Book search: PL history and paradigms I have not read the book, but seeing the principal programming paradigm poster makes me think about how good it is because Java and Smalltalk are wrongly categorized, at least for what I understand of the poster (java with closure, smalltalk not in the message passing category) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 23 May 2012 12:00, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for a good book on programming language history with a focus on the different paradigms (e.g. imperative, functional, Â). Any suggestions? Peter Van Roy's and Seif Haridi' "Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming" [1] has loads on the different paradigms and comparing them. Not a lot on the _history_ of those though. ACM's HOPL conferences would provide the history of particular languages. Between those two sources you ought to be able to construct something like what you need by mapping CTM's "this model uses these paradigms" to the HOPL papers. frank [1] http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~pvr/book.html > Thanks, > Max -- HernÃ¡n Wilkinson Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching Phone: +54 - 011 - 4311 - 8404 Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com site: <http://www.10pines.com/> http://www.10Pines.com Address: Paraguay 523, Floor 7 N, Buenos Aires, Argentina

May 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Jenkins

by Marcus Denker

On May 26, 2012, at 3:56 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Pharo 1.3 build failing - why in last month? Are fixes still being applied? Just one fix applied. Why the full image fails I have not checked yet. > Pharo 1.4 Tests - windows build not running tests > Yes, known and should be fixed. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-conf] Pharo Sprint â Saturday 10h00 â RMoD Lab

by Pavel Krivanek

ok -- Pavel On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On May 26, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > >> With Markus we plan to meet at 10:00 in front of Gare Lille Flandres. >> Others can join us. >> > More like 9:30... to be at the lab at 10. > > Â Â Â Â Marcus > > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >

May 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-conf] Pharo Sprint â Saturday 10h00 â RMoD Lab

by Marcus Denker

On May 26, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > With Markus we plan to meet at 10:00 in front of Gare Lille Flandres. > Others can join us. > More like 9:30... to be at the lab at 10. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 26, 2012