May 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Enable #alwaysOpenFullDebugger: and fastDragging:

by Marcus Denker

On May 3, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys. There are 2 settings that I ALWAYS need to change and I think it would be nice to have them by default: > > 1) Always show debugger and avoid pre-debugger windows. It makes no sense for development. It takes you the double of time. What does the pre-debug brings you? nothing. If you want to proceed, then the debugger also has that option. If you want to abandon, you can just close the debugger. So, we should enable this. If someone wanst the pre-debugger fwindows for a reasons, then he should enable it. > > 2) Fast dragging. The normal dragging is slow in old machines and slow when there are lots of opened windows. The fast drag is much faster and nicer because since it is transparent you can even see what is below. > > Let's do a quick survey. We have 24 hrs. Do not vote if you didn't try it. > > I start: > > Debugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger: true. +1 > UITheme currentSettings fastDragging: true. +1 > Please do a doodle. We have already too many mails on the mailinglist. -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] grabbing morphs in 2.0

by Francisco Garau

Hi - up until 1.4 doing ctrl-click on any morph would bring up a menu for the clicked morph. This is not happening any more in 2.0. Shall I open an issue for it? - Francisco

May 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] Enable #alwaysOpenFullDebugger: and fastDragging:

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi guys. There are 2 settings that I ALWAYS need to change and I think it would be nice to have them by default: 1) Always show debugger and avoid pre-debugger windows. It makes no sense for development. It takes you the double of time. What does the pre-debug brings you? nothing. If you want to proceed, then the debugger also has that option. If you want to abandon, you can just close the debugger. So, we should enable this. If someone wanst the pre-debugger fwindows for a reasons, then he should enable it. 2) Fast dragging. The normal dragging is slow in old machines and slow when there are lots of opened windows. The fast drag is much faster and nicer because since it is transparent you can even see what is below. Let's do a quick survey. We have 24 hrs. Do not vote if you didn't try it. I start: Debugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger: true. +1 UITheme currentSettings fastDragging: true. +1 Cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Multiple desktops

by laurent laffont

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > On 03.05.2012 09:32, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > > > The way it's used in TWM doesn't really seem to be multiple desktops > though, but rather snapshots of how windows were positioned at any given > time. > I can't say I think it works well for that, because: > 1) If you remove a browser from the screen, it disappears from all > snapshots. > 2) If you change selection in a browser, it changes in all snapshots. > 3) If you add a browser, it's added to previous snapshots in the position > you left it when hitting the back button. > > Much more useful imho if the buttons could be used to just create new > blank desktop with independently managed opened windows, and travel > back/forward through those you've created :) > > Cheers, > Henry > > Ah, and I realize I didn't even try the right functionality, sorry! > Maybe it's just me and my workflow, but in my eyes, switching the > prominence of snapshots vs worlds(desktops) on the bar wouldn't be a bad > thing :) > You can change that in : TWMBar>>#rebuildDockContent feel free to play, commit in the repository and propose something better :) Laurent > > Cheers, > Henry >

May 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 5782 in pharo: Close ALL windows, no matter if they have unchanged changes

by Guillermo Polito

Yes, I need a way yo close all my garbage in one step, please. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > wrote: > So do you like the issue? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <pharo(a)googlecode.com> > Date: Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:54 PM > Subject: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 5782 in pharo: Close ALL windows, no > matter if they have unchanged changes > To: pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > Status: Accepted > Owner: marianopeck > Labels: Type-Bug > > New issue 5782 by marianopeck: Close ALL windows, no matter if they have > unchanged changes > http://code.google.com/p/**pharo/issues/detail?id=5782<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5782> > > Hi guys. Lots of time I found in a situation where I want: > > 1) To close ALL type of windows (not necessary browsers) such as > worksapces and transcripts. > 2) To close all windows EVEN if they have unsaved changes. > > I have added a new entry in "World menu" -> "Windows" -> "Delete all > windows discarding edits" that does exactly that. > > So...do you like it? if true, I can put it to review/integrate. > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Pharo-bugtracker mailing list > Pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.**inria.fr<Pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**pharo-bugtracker<http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

May 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Multiple desktops

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 03.05.2012 09:32, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > > The way it's used in TWM doesn't really seem to be multiple desktops > though, but rather snapshots of how windows were positioned at any > given time. > I can't say I think it works well for that, because: > 1) If you remove a browser from the screen, it disappears from all > snapshots. > 2) If you change selection in a browser, it changes in all snapshots. > 3) If you add a browser, it's added to previous snapshots in the > position you left it when hitting the back button. > > Much more useful imho if the buttons could be used to just create new > blank desktop with independently managed opened windows, and travel > back/forward through those you've created :) > > Cheers, > Henry Ah, and I realize I didn't even try the right functionality, sorry! Maybe it's just me and my workflow, but in my eyes, switching the prominence of snapshots vs worlds(desktops) on the bar wouldn't be a bad thing :) Cheers, Henry

May 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20042

by Marcus Denker

20042 ----- Issue 5777: Test and workaround for methods with incorrect global literals http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5777 Issue 5781: Add nice diff morph to compare to current and compare to version... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5781 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

May 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Mouse handler on a morph

by Erwan Douaille

Okay, but i didn't find anything with globalToLocal. And i've find another solution, just use soustraction for this problem : captureMouse: event Transcript cr;show: event position - self position. That's work too :) Thanks ;) 2012/5/2 Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> > This is because, under rare circumstances, it is desirable to do > something in/on/to the desktop based on the position in the local > morph. > > To get the local coordinates look for a method with the word "global" > in it -- globalToLocal: or something like that. It's in Squeak, not > sure whether this is still in Pharo though.. If anything, you could > always just subtract the upperleft coordinate of your window from the > MouseEvent's position.. > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Erwan Douaille <douailleerwan(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I would like to know if it's possible to add a mouse handler on a > specific > > morph ? > > I have a window and i would like to know the position of my mouse only in > > this window. > > > > For exemple i also use : > > > > self on: #mouseDown send: #captureMouse: to: self. > > > > But it give me the mouse position in pharo environment and not only in my > > window. > > > > > > Thanks :) > > > > -- > > Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com> > > -- Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

May 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 5782 in pharo: Close ALL windows, no matter if they have unchanged changes

by Mariano Martinez Peck

So do you like the issue? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <pharo(a)googlecode.com> Date: Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:54 PM Subject: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 5782 in pharo: Close ALL windows, no matter if they have unchanged changes To: pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Status: Accepted Owner: marianopeck Labels: Type-Bug New issue 5782 by marianopeck: Close ALL windows, no matter if they have unchanged changes http://code.google.com/p/**pharo/issues/detail?id=5782<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5782> Hi guys. Lots of time I found in a situation where I want: 1) To close ALL type of windows (not necessary browsers) such as worksapces and transcripts. 2) To close all windows EVEN if they have unsaved changes. I have added a new entry in "World menu" -> "Windows" -> "Delete all windows discarding edits" that does exactly that. So...do you like it? if true, I can put it to review/integrate. ______________________________**_________________ Pharo-bugtracker mailing list Pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.**inria.fr<Pharo-bugtracker(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**pharo-bugtracker<http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker> -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Multiple desktops

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 03.05.2012 00:01, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:00 AM, laurent laffont > <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com <mailto:laurent.laffont@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen > <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no > <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>> wrote: > > On 02.05.2012 15 <tel:02.05.2012%2015>:40, H. Hirzel wrote: > > How come? > > Maybe I should have chosen 'Multiple desktops' as the > subject line. > > I just downloaded Pharo 1.4 a few days ago and with only > one screen I > feel quickly limited. > > How are people dealing with this? > > Having different desktops for a system is not a uncommon > thing at all. > > --Hannes > > I believe it was integrated into the TilingWindowManager package. > It should be loadable through the Metacello Configurations > Browser in 1.4, (Tools -> Configuration Browser), though I ran > into a #DNU doing that... > The monticello repository is > http://www.squeaksource.com/TilingWindowManager . > > > > > > with -> without problems :) > My bad, was using the 1.4 One-Click posted to list some time ago. With the one from frontpage, it loads correctly. The way it's used in TWM doesn't really seem to be multiple desktops though, but rather snapshots of how windows were positioned at any given time. I can't say I think it works well for that, because: 1) If you remove a browser from the screen, it disappears from all snapshots. 2) If you change selection in a browser, it changes in all snapshots. 3) If you add a browser, it's added to previous snapshots in the position you left it when hitting the back button. Much more useful imho if the buttons could be used to just create new blank desktop with independently managed opened windows, and travel back/forward through those you've created :) Cheers, Henry

May 3, 2012