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Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow?

by phil＠highoctane.be

And the version pushed will be +1 each time isn't it? How do I put the same version to two places? 2012/4/3 Tobias Pape <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> > > Am 2012-04-03 um 16:33 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > > > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Tobias Pape wrote: > > > >> > >> Am 2012-04-03 um 13:03 schrieb Stefan Marr: > >> > >>> > >>> On 03 Apr 2012, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >>> > >>>> Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to > get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you > cannot work. > >>> > >>> Perhaps it is worthwhile to adapt another workflow? > >>> > >>> My personal projects reside all in /home/smarr/.monticello and I use > that as my main repo. > >>> > >>> I commit to that one, and only if I really want to do a 'push' like > with git, I copy stuff to public repos. > >>> > >>> Works very smooth, even on the road. > >> > >> If only the tools supported that better ;) > > > > but with Gofer you can sync your localâ¦. > > > > sure. but actually, i only want to 'push' the > missing versions and, even more important, I want > a non-DoIt way (ie, a button) for it. > You know, when I first saw that it is possible to > 'copy' a version to different repos from the ui, i was thrilledâ¦ > but it takes too much time to copy 10 versions to 3 repos. > Gofer is better but not yet good in this regard ;) > > best > -tobias > -- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges

April 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [smaltalk-gsoc-students] 3 days left, your biography, invitations, proposals

by Marcus Denker

Begin forwarded message: > From: Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [smaltalk-gsoc-students] 3 days left, your biography, invitations, proposals > Date: April 3, 2012 8:12:01 PM GMT+02:00 > To: smalltalk-gsoc-students(a)googlegroups.com > Reply-To: smalltalk-gsoc-students(a)googlegroups.com > > Dear students, > > 3 days to the Friday deadline at 19 UTC! Those who you didn't already, please write your biography! Without it you don't have any chance, sorry, and in Thursday you'll end up on "Not serious" list. > > Mentors are starting to invite you to write proposals. Look at your profiles and if you'll be invited then start writing a proposal. More about that later. > > To repeat the steps: > > 1. on our website http://gsoc2012.esug.org: > Register there and provide as much contact info for mentors to reach as possible; > Write as best biography as you can. Good biography page is the best way to be accepted! > Choose up to three projects you are interested in. Mark a project you are most interested by clicking the button 'Very interested'; > Mentors will soon invite up to two students per project to write a proposal; > Invited students write a proposal how to make a chosen project. > 2. on Google GSoC site: > Register there as a student as well, and immediately, you can edit the registration until deadline anyway, > After invitation and writing a proposal copy the proposal on the Google website as well. > Why such a dual procedure? On our website we can pair your interest with available projects easier that on Google site, this is the main reason. > > So again, hurry up and best luck! > > Janko > Smalltalk GSoC Admin team -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow?

by Dale Henrichs

We pushed SS3 out last summer as an Alpha because SS3 looked like it could be a better alternative to SqueakSource, so it was opened for general use "known bugs and all"... there are a number of "known bugs" that have been fixed and they are in the queue waiting on a number of open bugs/tasks that still need to be fixed before we can upgrade SS3[1][2] ... The particular issue you have is most likely related to the current i/o problems, which we are working on addressing ... Dale [1] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-… [2] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-… ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stefan Marr" <smalltalk(a)stefan-marr.de> | To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Pharo" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>, "Tobias Pape" | <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:52:11 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow? | | | On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: | | > | > Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: | > | >> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time | >> outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. | >> I am the only one seeing this? | > | > it's fast from Berlin, thoâ¦ | | While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted | into the issue tracker? | And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? | Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper | HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is | loading. | | | Best regards | Stefan | | -- | Stefan Marr | Software Languages Lab | Vrije Universiteit Brussel | Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium | http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr | Phone: +32 2 629 2974 | Fax: +32 2 629 3525 | | |

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow?

by Tobias Pape

Am 2012-04-03 um 19:52 schrieb Stefan Marr: > > On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: > >> >> Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: >> >>> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. >>> I am the only one seeing this? >> >> it's fast from Berlin, thoâ¦ > > While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted into the issue tracker? Yes I have. Some of them are solved and being staged onto ss3, which hopefully will happen soon ;) I'll take care of the rest of the issues once my currently primary issue is resolved â¦ > > And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? > Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is loading. Hmm, doesn't happen at http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource so this should be resolved and being staged, too :) best -Tobias

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow?

by Stefan Marr

On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: > > Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > >> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. >> I am the only one seeing this? > > it's fast from Berlin, thoâ¦ While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted into the issue tracker? And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is loading. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] SS3 downtime - today 2pm PDT

by Dale Henrichs

Mariano, This downtime won't get us out of the woods ... there's something funky going on with i/o, but it should help a bit ... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Mariano Martinez Peck" <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> | To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:34:03 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] SS3 downtime - today 2pm PDT | | Thanks Dale for taking care :) | | | On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Dale Henrichs < dhenrich(a)vmware.com > | wrote: | | | We are in the process of tracking down the root cause of inordinate | i/o delays on http://ss3.gemstone.com [1]. | | In the meantime, we're going to tweak some of the system settings and | will cycle the stone. | | The plan is to cycle the stone this afternoon at 2PM PDT and the | system should be down for just a few minutes ... if that will cause | any inconvenience let me know and I'll reschedule ... | | Dale | | [1] | http://forum.world.st/http-ss3-gemstone-com-is-EXTREMELY-slow-td4528259.html | | | | | -- | Mariano | http://marianopeck.wordpress.com | |

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel and Pharo Kernel

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > I tried the Fuel with Pharo Kernel and... it works well. I am really happy to hear that. > It needs only > very few modifications (removing of some dependencies). Right now I am extremelly busy, but in 2 ways I can spend some time in Fuel. If you think that some of these dependencies removal could be applied directly to Fuel core, please let us know. > But the really > great thing is that the FLPackageLoader seems to work quite well too. > Awesome. > I do strongly recommend to add Fuel very early in the development of > 1.5 into the basic kernel packages. Indeed. That was the idea for 1.4 but we didn't have time. > I can not wait to see a Pharo > image without the Compiler ;-) > > In fact that was one of the things Stef had in mind when he decided to support and push Fuel. Because RMOD is working in boostrap and related works where you would like to boostrap and grow without a compiler ;) > -- Pavel > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] SS3 downtime - today 2pm PDT

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Dale for taking care :) On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: > We are in the process of tracking down the root cause of inordinate i/o > delays on http://ss3.gemstone.com[1]. > > In the meantime, we're going to tweak some of the system settings and will > cycle the stone. > > The plan is to cycle the stone this afternoon at 2PM PDT and the system > should be down for just a few minutes ... if that will cause any > inconvenience let me know and I'll reschedule ... > > Dale > > [1] > http://forum.world.st/http-ss3-gemstone-com-is-EXTREMELY-slow-td4528259.html > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] A test crashes (win32) cogvm

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes.. i had similar crashes.. and always involving the progress bar(s). > but i was unable to find a fully reproducible case. :( > > now you have it :) Thanks Martin for the report. I would like to help but until 14th I cannot do ANYTHING else than my paper :( > > On 3 April 2012 16:31, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Almost 100% of the times (but not always) I run certain Fuel test, the vm > > crashes. The code related to such test has not changed for a long time, > so I > > guess the problem appeared when I started to use the latest vm. I'd > thank a > > lot some help on this issue. > > > > To reproduce, evaluate: > > > > (FLBenchmarksTest selector: #testNumberOfResults) run > > > > in: > > - any of latest fuel images (por example, > > > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Fuel%20Pharo%201.4/284/artifact/Fuel.zip > ) > > - using latest cog vm for win32 > > (https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Cog-Win32/21/artifact/Cog.zip) > > > > > > I attach dmps of crashes running in two computers, with both Pharo 1.3 > and > > 1.4. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > MartÃn > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] Optimizations, Cog, cpu load??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, I have my laptop downloading updates, running a vm and installing clunky windows software therein. The fan just started, so my reduced load theory seems to hold water. Something in what has been done in the image and/or vm has allowed things that once would cause my laptop to heat up to run w/o need of the fan. The fan *could* have quit, but that is now clearly not the case. Pharo is getting better. Bill

April 3, 2012