March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] about pharo1.4

by Fernando Olivero

However redid the FileBrowser in Pharo1.4 did an excellent work. Also the other standard tools in the kernel seem to got simpler and easier to use, thanks! Fernando

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Increase populatity of Pharo by doing some Killer-OpenSource-Tools

by Hilaire Fernandes

It should not. As Paul Graham described it in its startup project with Lisp, Smalltalk is our secret advantage over the competition to achieve better result at lower cost. Hilaire Le 09/03/2012 17:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > I doubt that Pharo will become the "next big thing". I'm not > sad about that since most hype technologies will easily fade away > when the next hype comes up. -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Increase populatity of Pharo by doing some Killer-OpenSource-Tools

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Guys guys guys There is one rule. Only one. Each time you do something today you do not have to do it tomorrow and you are probably better now than tomorrow. If ****every**** single day you should spend 20 min doing something for pharo or for a pharo related project you do not imagine in a year from now were we would be. So take something you like, a little hammer and everyday hammer hammer and hammer it. Stef

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Increase populatity of Pharo by doing some Killer-OpenSource-Tools

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Stefan Krecher wrote: > Am 9. MÃ¤rz 2012 15:01 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> A simple and good looking Ticketing-System for use in an agile team >>> would be a good thing - it's a CRUD-Application with some Reporting >>> and maybe some eye candy. >> >> Why don't you start based on experience to build a tool and share with us. > > i guess, that's what i'm going to do - my problem is, that i'm quite > new too seaside and have no experience with building "eyecandy". I > work at the server-side ... or deal with projectmanagement-stuff make sure you have a nice model and try and learn :) > >>> Is anyone interested in creating some OpenSource-Projects for use in a >>> wider range? Those Tools should look "sexy" and should be easy to try >>> (OneClick) or to install as a Service. >> >> Yes we are lot of people interested in that. Just quite busy. > > that's a problem. > > But let me dream: > If pharo was organized as a scrum-project and if i was the product > owner, i would suspend the current pharo development and instruct the > team to work the complete next sprint (e.g. 4 weeks) on an > OpenSource-Project for some general use. like the compiler, like integration server, like building VM, like creating the next generation UI. You see we are doing that. Now we only have one engineer and he is quite busy. All the rest of the team is not payed to develop Pharo but to teach, publish papers and ideas. > Imagine what a bunch of pharo developers could create in 4 weeks ... > And if companies start to evaluate and use the new software, this > would be a big boost for pharo/ smalltalk. > It would be a complete new way of pushing an Open Source Project. :)

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Store your source code in the cloud using Amazon S3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

marcus will love that. Do you have an idea of the price? Stef On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > For a long time, I had this idea that it would be a good idea to use Amazon S3 to store Smalltalk source code. > A couple of weeks ago I decided to build and deploy a proof of concept. > > Have a look at: > > http://mc.stfx.eu > > Everything is explained on that page. > > Two of my repositories are publically available: > > http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents/ > > http://mc.stfx.eu/Zodiac/ > > You can create the relevant MCHttpRepository as usual: > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents' > user: '' > password: '' > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://mc.stfx.eu/Zodiac' > user: '' > password: '' > > If you are interested in testing this, let me know. > I have some code to easily copy/sync between repositories. > > > Sven > > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > >

March 11, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14387

by Marcus Denker

14387 ----- Issue 5453: change CurrentMajorVersionNumber in ScriptLoader http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5453 Issue 5457: improve semantic source links http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5457 Issue 5455: fix for simpleSwitchMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5455 Issue 5451: Workaroung for Green tests http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5451 Issue 5441: Fixing timestamp coherence http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id= 5441 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs?

by Igor Stasenko

On 11 March 2012 02:58, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: > Using the formatter means that you get to focus on only the semantic changes and all format related changes are filtered for you .... > > I'd rather not be bothered with diffs for methods that were merely formatted, but that's just me. > unless, you reformatted code and refactored it a bit. Now because of overlapping highlights, i cannot verify, what exactly changes i did. And the worst of all is , when i click ' pretty print' it barks with error "Undefined object are not indexable'... :) as in Pharo1.4a Latest update: #14379 > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> > | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53:52 PM > | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs? > | > | formatted source code doesn't show up as different anyway? > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> > | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53:01 PM > | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore > | | white-space diffs? > | | > | | "ignoring whitespace" means? > | | > | | ----- Original Message ----- > | | | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > | | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | | | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:44:39 PM > | | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to > | | | ignore > | | | white-space diffs? > | | | > | | | On 11 March 2012 02:27, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> > | | | wrote: > | | | > An approach that I've used in the past is to use a formatter > | | | > both > | | | > sides of the comparison ... > | | | > > | | | > | | | Well, the point is that formatting changes are visible without > | | | any > | | | highlighting. > | | | And if you will use formatter, then you won't see that guy > | | | actually > | | | just (re)formatted code. > | | | > | | | > Dale > | | | > > | | | > ----- Original Message ----- > | | | > | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > | | | > | To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > | | | > | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:21:28 PM > | | | > | Subject: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to > | | | > | ignore > | | | > | white-space Â diffs? > | | | > | > | | | > | Because it makes things unreadable. > | | | > | Here, i replaced spaces with tabs.. and see what happens. > | | | > | > | | | > | > | | | > | -- > | | | > | Best regards, > | | | > | Igor Stasenko. > | | | > | > | | | > > | | | > | | | > | | | > | | | -- > | | | Best regards, > | | | Igor Stasenko. > | | | > | | | > | | > | | > | > | > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs?

by Dale Henrichs

Using the formatter means that you get to focus on only the semantic changes and all format related changes are filtered for you .... I'd rather not be bothered with diffs for methods that were merely formatted, but that's just me. Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53:52 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs? | | formatted source code doesn't show up as different anyway? | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53:01 PM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore | | white-space diffs? | | | | "ignoring whitespace" means? | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | | | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:44:39 PM | | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to | | | ignore | | | white-space diffs? | | | | | | On 11 March 2012 02:27, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | | | wrote: | | | > An approach that I've used in the past is to use a formatter | | | > both | | | > sides of the comparison ... | | | > | | | | | | Well, the point is that formatting changes are visible without | | | any | | | highlighting. | | | And if you will use formatter, then you won't see that guy | | | actually | | | just (re)formatted code. | | | | | | > Dale | | | > | | | > ----- Original Message ----- | | | > | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | | | > | To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> | | | > | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:21:28 PM | | | > | Subject: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to | | | > | ignore | | | > | white-space Â diffs? | | | > | | | | > | Because it makes things unreadable. | | | > | Here, i replaced spaces with tabs.. and see what happens. | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | -- | | | > | Best regards, | | | > | Igor Stasenko. | | | > | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | | | -- | | | Best regards, | | | Igor Stasenko. | | | | | | | | | | | |

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs?

by Dale Henrichs

formatted source code doesn't show up as different anyway? ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53:01 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs? | | "ignoring whitespace" means? | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:44:39 PM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore | | white-space diffs? | | | | On 11 March 2012 02:27, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: | | > An approach that I've used in the past is to use a formatter both | | > sides of the comparison ... | | > | | | | Well, the point is that formatting changes are visible without any | | highlighting. | | And if you will use formatter, then you won't see that guy actually | | just (re)formatted code. | | | | > Dale | | > | | > ----- Original Message ----- | | > | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | | > | To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> | | > | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:21:28 PM | | > | Subject: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore | | > | white-space Â diffs? | | > | | | > | Because it makes things unreadable. | | > | Here, i replaced spaces with tabs.. and see what happens. | | > | | | > | | | > | -- | | > | Best regards, | | > | Igor Stasenko. | | > | | | > | | | | | | | | -- | | Best regards, | | Igor Stasenko. | | | | | |

March 11, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs?

by Dale Henrichs

"ignoring whitespace" means? ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:44:39 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore white-space diffs? | | On 11 March 2012 02:27, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com> wrote: | > An approach that I've used in the past is to use a formatter both | > sides of the comparison ... | > | | Well, the point is that formatting changes are visible without any | highlighting. | And if you will use formatter, then you won't see that guy actually | just (re)formatted code. | | > Dale | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> | > | To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> | > | Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:21:28 PM | > | Subject: [Pharo-project] Can we change diff-generator to ignore | > | white-space Â diffs? | > | | > | Because it makes things unreadable. | > | Here, i replaced spaces with tabs.. and see what happens. | > | | > | | > | -- | > | Best regards, | > | Igor Stasenko. | > | | > | | | | -- | Best regards, | Igor Stasenko. | |

March 11, 2012