March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace?

by S Krish

CommandShell package..? On 3/20/12, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > With OSProcess you can invoke shell. > > Now so far we do not have an interpreter for bash > > Stef > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Frank Church wrote: > >> Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace? >> >> -- >> Frank Church >> >> ======================= >> http://devblog.brahmancreations.com > > >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Wait or not?

by Norbert Hartl

Am 20.03.2012 um 09:23 schrieb Pavel Krivanek: > Hi, > > I would like to ask you on your opinion about time scale of some big > repackaging steps. At start we talk about issue 5520 > (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5520#makechanges) > that should rename Morphic package to Morphic-Base. The reason to do > it is to prepare Morphic and MorphicTests packages for the next > reorganization, namely to separate Morphic-Core package(s) with > content of the uMorphic image (the minimal morphic image with only the > most basic subset of the Morphic). > > The question is if we want to do it now or wait on the verson 1.5. At > start it is only the reorganization of packages that should not change > any behavior of the system. On the other hand, we may expect that it > will bring some sort-term problems. > This question is almost easy to answer. There are no things that do not produce side effects. So this is a no go in 1.4. But it can also mean that 1.4 needs to be shipped soon. Or just open 1.5 before 1.4 is shipped. But that might to be too much work for Marcus et. al. Norbert

March 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] Pharo Dynamic play with Morphic UI Construction videos..

by S Krish

Great fun playing with and building a moderately complex beginners UI. http://picasaweb.google.com/skrishnamachari/Pharo_Dynamic_UI Builds up over the 5 videos to move from simple forms to complex form and a runtime integration instantly... Borrowing from Bret Taylor's .. dynamic UI construction, not that jazz, but the overall feel is the same responsive just in time UI construction feedback cycle.. I guess time to rest my dirty hack hat, and don a professional one to deliver the promise of updated framework that does this, within the next week or two max...

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Object>>deprecated:on:in: doesn't respect state of Deprecation class>>showWarning:

by Martin Sandiford

Hope you made the train. Good advice to look into 1.3 --- on closer inspection it turns out this actually works fine, and I just didn't understand how things work. "raiseWarning: false" does what I want; showWarning just affects transcript logs. I've updated the issue --- it should probably be closed as invalid :( On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks martin. > I do not remember may be this is related to the fact this is in alpha. > Can you check if you get the same behavior and the same code in deprecated:on:â¦ > in 1.3 > > Stef (running now to catch a train)

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: numerical method in smalltalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > 2012/3/20 Steffen MÃ¤rcker <merkste(a)web.de>: >> Hi, >> >> There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is >> - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical >> Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good >> starting point. But it needs more documentation... > > Yes there is already the same version for Pharo/Squeak on Squeaksource. > There is actually a lot of code dispersed in several projects with > some duplication also. > The idea is to consolidate everything. Yes! > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiac is cool!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Sean, > > > On 19 Mar 2012, at 16:49, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> Is there a bug tracker? I want to make sure that redirect truncation bug we found does not get lost. > > Like for Zinc, I would prefer to use the Pharo list for public communication for Zodiac. +1 > I will try to isolate what we saw in a test case. > >> Also, the "Zodiac" link on http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html is broken > > Fixed, thanks. > > Sven > > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

With OSProcess you can invoke shell. Now so far we do not have an interpreter for bash Stef On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Frank Church wrote: > Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace? > > -- > Frank Church > > ======================= > http://devblog.brahmancreations.com

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Wait or not?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

good question :) I would love to ship 1.4 :) And we open 1.5 just after. Ys Morphic-Base is needed > Hi, > > I would like to ask you on your opinion about time scale of some big > repackaging steps. At start we talk about issue 5520 > (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5520#makechanges) > that should rename Morphic package to Morphic-Base. The reason to do > it is to prepare Morphic and MorphicTests packages for the next > reorganization, namely to separate Morphic-Core package(s) with > content of the uMorphic image (the minimal morphic image with only the > most basic subset of the Morphic). > > The question is if we want to do it now or wait on the verson 1.5. At > start it is only the reorganization of packages that should not change > any behavior of the system. On the other hand, we may expect that it > will bring some sort-term problems. > > Cheers, > -- Pavel >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can't load VMMaker into 1.3 as suggested by collaboractive book

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you can use a setting to accept _ Stef > I tried to load VMMaker into Pharo 1.3 (http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool) However, there's a dependency on Balloon3D-Plugins-bf.5 that contains underscore assignments which leads to syntax errors during load. Even the "fix" #pharoUndescoreAssignment run manually doesn't help. > > Maybe I'm doing this all wrongâ¦ All I want is to write a CRC pluginâ¦ > > Any suggestions? > > Cheers, > Max

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: numerical method in smalltalk

by Serge Stinckwich

2012/3/20 Steffen MÃ¤rcker <merkste(a)web.de>: > Hi, > > There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is > - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical > Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good > starting point. But it needs more documentation... Yes there is already the same version for Pharo/Squeak on Squeaksource. There is actually a lot of code dispersed in several projects with some duplication also. The idea is to consolidate everything. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 20, 2012