March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiac is cool!

by Camillo Bruni

We're currently setting up the build-server to include the SqueakSSL plugin. hence Zodiac should work out of the box :) best cami On 2012-03-20, at 11:21, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Sean, >> >> >> On 19 Mar 2012, at 16:49, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >>> Is there a bug tracker? I want to make sure that redirect truncation bug we found does not get lost. >> >> Like for Zinc, I would prefer to use the Pharo list for public communication for Zodiac. > +1 > >> I will try to isolate what we saw in a test case. >> >>> Also, the "Zodiac" link on http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html is broken >> >> Fixed, thanks. >> >> Sven >> >> >> -- >> Sven Van Caekenberghe >> http://stfx.eu >> Smalltalk is the Red Pill >> >> >> >> > >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Any theme or settings that will speed up a Pharo 1.3 image?

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-03-19, at 20:54, Marcus Denker wrote: >> You used your own images for Pinocchio, or was Pinocchio just fast enough for the standard images? >> > Pinnocio can't run the image... it's ("just ;-)") a compiler from smalltalk to binary code... the .exe then boostraps an image, > but there is no support to persist that (nor support for all the primitives.. and no GC other than Boehm). indeed ;) we tricked around the image :D stefan, do you rely on a visual interface? (rhetorical question) ;) I guess the only solution I see here would be to start unloading some parts of the system to make sure they're no longer used...

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Understanding RunArray>>scanFrom:

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > This method parses a stream from a fileout with styling and generates the text style specific objects. > > > > Now, > > 1) are we writing that style section in our fileouts? > > No, not anymore. > > Are you sure it's not used for class comments? Given pretty-printing there's no need for method text style. But in a class comment (if people knew it was available) it can be quite nice. > In Pharo right now all source is just a string... class comments, too. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can't load VMMaker into 1.3 as suggested by collaboractive book

by Max Leske

Thanks Henrik! I'll try that. Max On 20.03.2012, at 13:15, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 20.03.2012 08:55, Max Leske wrote: >> I tried to load VMMaker into Pharo 1.3 (http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool) However, there's a dependency on Balloon3D-Plugins-bf.5 that contains underscore assignments which leads to syntax errors during load. Even the "fix" #pharoUndescoreAssignment run manually doesn't help. >> >> Maybe I'm doing this all wrongâ¦ All I want is to write a CRC pluginâ¦ >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Cheers, >> Max > I went through a while back and removed all underscore assignments, but I don't have write access to the repository. > You can find the .mcz / .cs at: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6751081/BalloonPluginNoUnderscores.zip > > Cheers, > Henry >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can't load VMMaker into 1.3 as suggested by collaboractive book

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 20.03.2012 08:55, Max Leske wrote: > I tried to load VMMaker into Pharo 1.3 (http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool) However, there's a dependency on Balloon3D-Plugins-bf.5 that contains underscore assignments which leads to syntax errors during load. Even the "fix" #pharoUndescoreAssignment run manually doesn't help. > > Maybe I'm doing this all wrongâ¦ All I want is to write a CRC pluginâ¦ > > Any suggestions? > > Cheers, > Max I went through a while back and removed all underscore assignments, but I don't have write access to the repository. You can find the .mcz / .cs at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6751081/BalloonPluginNoUnderscores.zip Cheers, Henry

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can't load VMMaker into 1.3 as suggested by collaboractive book

by Max Leske

I assume that would be Scanner class>>allowUnderscoreAssignments. That is exactly what #pharoUnderscoreAssignment doesâ¦ On 20.03.2012, at 11:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > you can use a setting to accept _ > > Stef > >> I tried to load VMMaker into Pharo 1.3 (http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool) However, there's a dependency on Balloon3D-Plugins-bf.5 that contains underscore assignments which leads to syntax errors during load. Even the "fix" #pharoUndescoreAssignment run manually doesn't help. >> >> Maybe I'm doing this all wrongâ¦ All I want is to write a CRC pluginâ¦ >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Cheers, >> Max > >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace?

by Frank Church

On 20 March 2012 10:47, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > CommandShell package..? > > On 3/20/12, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > With OSProcess you can invoke shell. > > > > Now so far we do not have an interpreter for bash > > > > Stef > > > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Frank Church wrote: > > > >> Is there a package for running bash shells in a Smalltalk workspace? > >> > >> -- > >> Frank Church > >> > >> ======================= > >> http://devblog.brahmancreations.com > > > > > > > > I am thinking more along the lines of an embedded shell window, like an ActiveX control that runs a terminal window in the workspace, and can have commands sent to it. -- Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: numerical method in smalltalk

by Serge Stinckwich

2012/3/20 Steffen MÃ¤rcker <merkste(a)web.de>: > It can imagine that it would be useful for the ST community to have this > cross dialect. Are there any plans in this direction? Yes in a perfect world, but having already something working on Pharo is a first step. After that people could adapt to other flavors if they want. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Wait or not?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 20.03.2012 um 09:23 schrieb Pavel Krivanek: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to ask you on your opinion about time scale of some big >> repackaging steps. At start we talk about issue 5520 >> (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5520#makechanges) >> that should rename Morphic package to Morphic-Base. The reason to do >> it is to prepare Morphic and MorphicTests packages for the next >> reorganization, namely to separate Morphic-Core package(s) with >> content of the uMorphic image (the minimal morphic image with only the >> most basic subset of the Morphic). >> >> The question is if we want to do it now or wait on the verson 1.5. At >> start it is only the reorganization of packages that should not change >> any behavior of the system. On the other hand, we may expect that it >> will bring some sort-term problems. >> > This question is almost easy to answer. There are no things that do not produce side effects. So this is a no go in 1.4. But it can also mean that 1.4 needs to be shipped soon. Or just open 1.5 before 1.4 is shipped. But that might to be too much work for Marcus et. al. We did that in the past. Now we should get all tests green for 1.4. After only we should open 1.5 elseâ¦ the fun will take over > > Norbert > >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Object>>deprecated:on:in: doesn't respect state of Deprecation class>>showWarning:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Hope you made the train. Good advice to look into 1.3 --- on closer > inspection it turns out this actually works fine, and I just didn't > understand how things work. "raiseWarning: false" does what I want; > showWarning just affects transcript logs. > > I've updated the issue --- it should probably be closed as invalid :( no problem :) Stef

March 20, 2012