March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Building the iOS VM

by phil＠highoctane.be

Currently, I am writing code targetting iOS for an educational game (but no Smalltalk in there) That may change. I am okay with helping getting the iOS VM to work. The main issue is that what I want is an Xcode projet that is clean. This is doable, the current Xcode project in the source tree is crappy with locations not well defined etc. Fixable. But I need to know what to do first. Hilaire told me to look here. I've got an Arduino Uno. In fact, I did a number of ISA (! old) cards, and interfaces, like oscilloscope board, ... I can hook that back to the Arduino and then in turn make some Pharo classes (maybe with FFI - I know some people did stuff but not on OSX) to take the data in. The fun part would be the visualization of an iPad remotely. I saw something in Ghent (I am from Belgium). I'll try to go. Then in Lille, there is also something. I'll go as well. Depends in fact on how well I recover from my current eye surgery. I am locked in my home/office for 4 weeks due to retinal detachment :-( - Things should be okay by then. For the record, I am a civil engineer and am self employed since 2000. http//philippeback.eu Philippe 2012/3/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:26 PM, philippe.back(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > > I am trying to build the VM for iOS. > > Got the sources from the ci jenkins server (the ones that built last > month, as the current one is red). > > > > /platforms has something looking like it. (iOS) > > > > But cog is x86 and iOS is ARM7. > > > > So, I guess that I have to build a StackVM for it to work. > > yes > > > But there is nothing about iOS in the instructions (Part1, Part2, ...) > > > > The MacOSX VM is documented but not the iOS version. > > Indeed. > > > As maintenance was taken over from John, how do we build from here? > > Esteban is moving to france so right now I'm not sure that he can reply to > you. But next week probably. > > > > My setup: OSX Lion, latest XCode upgraded from Snow Leopard, so I do > have GCC on it as well (as LLVM doesn't work). > > > > Target devices: iPad 2 3G, iPad 2 Wifi, iPhone 3GS (All with iOS 5.1). > > > > My wife is a math teacher and my point with all this is to have a > working VM running Dr Geo II. > > Esteban is working with Hilaire on that. So may be contact hilaire. He is > in the mailing-list. > > > I am currently having fun with Arduino > > with pharo? > What arduino board do you use? > I would like to see a demo? are you attending the pharo conference? > > > and would like to bridge it with the iPad through the web (using an > Ethernet Shield on the Arduino) - the whole chain running Pharo inside self > build VMs. > > > > The ultimate point is to run a summer camp with kids if I can put > everything together by then. > > I would love that. > Luc and Noury are also working with arduino so we will have fun. > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Philippe > > > -- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges

March 24, 2012

[Pharo-project] Updated DL Links http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-3

by Marcus Denker

Hi, http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-3 -> "Pharo 1.3" and "PharoCore 1.3" download links now point to 13327 zips on Gforge -> VM downloads point to latest successful build on Jenkins for Win,Linux and Mac. TODO: -> update one-Click. Christophe has a test job for a 1.4 one-click that takes the last successfull build of all VMs: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%20One%20Click%20image/ This will be added to the jobs of Pharo 1.3 and Pharo 1.4 (and Aida) soon. -> 1.3 has some faling tests and tracker entries that should be fixed http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone%3D1.3 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 24, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Building the iOS VM

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:26 PM, philippe.back(a)highoctane.be wrote: > I am trying to build the VM for iOS. > Got the sources from the ci jenkins server (the ones that built last month, as the current one is red). > > /platforms has something looking like it. (iOS) > > But cog is x86 and iOS is ARM7. > > So, I guess that I have to build a StackVM for it to work. yes > But there is nothing about iOS in the instructions (Part1, Part2, ...) > > The MacOSX VM is documented but not the iOS version. Indeed. > As maintenance was taken over from John, how do we build from here? Esteban is moving to france so right now I'm not sure that he can reply to you. But next week probably. > My setup: OSX Lion, latest XCode upgraded from Snow Leopard, so I do have GCC on it as well (as LLVM doesn't work). > > Target devices: iPad 2 3G, iPad 2 Wifi, iPhone 3GS (All with iOS 5.1). > > My wife is a math teacher and my point with all this is to have a working VM running Dr Geo II. Esteban is working with Hilaire on that. So may be contact hilaire. He is in the mailing-list. > I am currently having fun with Arduino with pharo? What arduino board do you use? I would like to see a demo? are you attending the pharo conference? > and would like to bridge it with the iPad through the web (using an Ethernet Shield on the Arduino) - the whole chain running Pharo inside self build VMs. > > The ultimate point is to run a summer camp with kids if I can put everything together by then. I would love that. Luc and Noury are also working with arduino so we will have fun. > > Thanks in advance, > Philippe

March 24, 2012

[Pharo-project] Building the iOS VM

by philippe.back＠highoctane.be

I am trying to build the VM for iOS. Got the sources from the ci jenkins server (the ones that built last month, as the current one is red). /platforms has something looking like it. (iOS) But cog is x86 and iOS is ARM7. So, I guess that I have to build a StackVM for it to work. But there is nothing about iOS in the instructions (Part1, Part2, ...) The MacOSX VM is documented but not the iOS version. As maintenance was taken over from John, how do we build from here? My setup: OSX Lion, latest XCode upgraded from Snow Leopard, so I do have GCC on it as well (as LLVM doesn't work). Target devices: iPad 2 3G, iPad 2 Wifi, iPhone 3GS (All with iOS 5.1). My wife is a math teacher and my point with all this is to have a working VM running Dr Geo II. I am currently having fun with Arduino and would like to bridge it with the iPad through the web (using an Ethernet Shield on the Arduino) - the whole chain running Pharo inside self build VMs. The ultimate point is to run a summer camp with kids if I can put everything together by then. Thanks in advance, Philippe

March 24, 2012

[Pharo-project] Building the iOS VM - Help

by phil＠highoctane.be

I am trying to build the VM for iOS. Got the sources from the ci jenkins server (the ones that built last month, as the current one is red). /platforms has something looking like it. (iOS) But Cog is x86 and iOS is ARM7. So, I guess that I have to build a StackVM for it to work. But there is nothing about iOS in the instructions (Part1, Part2, ...) The MacOSX VM is documented but not the iOS version. As maintenance was taken over from John, how do we build from here? (I also tried from a copy out of squeak-svn to no avail). My setup: OSX Lion, latest XCode upgraded from Snow Leopard, so I do have GCC on it as well (as LLVM doesn't work). Target devices: iPad 2 3G, iPad 2 Wifi, iPhone 3GS (All with iOS 5.1). My wife is a math teacher and my point with all this is to have a working VM running Dr Geo II. I am currently having fun with Arduino and would like to bridge it with the iPad through the web (using an Ethernet Shield on the Arduino) - the whole chain running Pharo inside self build VMs. The ultimate point is to run a summer camp with kids if I can put everything together by then. Thanks in advance, Philippe -- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil(a)highoctane.be| Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges

March 24, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 is now green...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Then if I introduce a new test documenting an old bug, it will then be rejected right ? > I wonder if I'd really want such a dumb system without an ounce of human expertiseâ¦ This is not the idea :) How do I see the process: for the test we publish it in a bug entry and as soon as there a code that makes it green then we integrate it. Now we should have a way to say check that entry -> load the code -> run the tests and say if this is ok then in parallel - we should be able to look at the code - say ok please integrate - and the system does it So benjamin has a bunch of scripts for that. stef > > Nicolas > > Le 24 mars 2012 15:37, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> a Ã©crit : > >> > >> > >>> .. 1.4 has now all tests green on jenkins (Mac and Linux). > >>> > >>> The nice side-effect is that all the jobs that check VM builds are now green, too. > >>> > >>> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%201.4/ > >>> > >>> The idea is to now to just never ever integrate anything that makes a test break... > >> > >> ok but it means that we should run 20 min tests each we integrate somethingâ¦. how boring. > >> We can try. > >> > >> Stef > > > > That's why you should use a full automatized process .... :whistle: ^^ > > indeed. > I want :) > > Stef >

March 24, 2012

[Pharo-project] Pharo Kernel Reload Tests-Unix - Build # 37 - Still unstable!

by jenkins-pharo.ci.inria.fr＠jenkins-server.lille.inria.fr

March 24, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Transcript lost

by Igor Stasenko

Transcript open too On 23 March 2012 18:46, Lawson English <lenglish5(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 3/23/12 10:40 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> it seems that we lost the Transcript item from the Tools menu :-) >> >> -- Pavel >> >> > cmd-t still brings it up though. > > Lawson > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

March 24, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14411

by Marcus Denker

14411 ----- Issue 5537: Transcript needs entry in Tools menu http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5537 Issue 5533: Move startup script and emergency evaluator from Tools to System menu http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5533 Issue 3573: New test: CompiledMethodTest.testPerformInSuperclassCanExecutelongMethodWithTemps http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3573 Issue 5474: EventHandler Test + Better use of handler http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5474 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 24, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 is now green...

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Then if I introduce a new test documenting an old bug, it will then be rejected right ? No, it will be added to the bug tracker. > I wonder if I'd really want such a dumb system without an ounce of human expertise... > In the past we did exactly that: add failing tests, so we will forced to fix them! The thing is: it did not work. Nobody cares about fixing failing tests. The only result is that the build is in the state "some tests are failing". A week later "some more tests are failing". A month later "When did that test start to fail ?!". In addition: how do we know that a vm build is good? That we are in a good state? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 24, 2012