March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Growl' user: '' password: '' Feel free to improve it :) We should include it by default in the system. Stef >>>> I am working on self destructive balloon morphs for such events. >>>> Because you want a popup to get the info, but you do not want this popup to interrupt you :) >>>> Something like Growl seems to work well ;) >>>> (the same when no senders are found etc) >>> >>> I did that yesterday: >>> >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24369478/VanishingMorph.mov >>> >>> (you can specify the position, the width the height, the margin, and it automatically split the text if it's too long ^^ ) >> >> Cool! >> Just a question the growlMorph was not good enough? > > What is this ? Where can I find it ? > > > Ben > >> >> Stef >> >> > >

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool erwan. Have fun and learn. After we will see how we can play with lumber abstractions to avoid reinventing the wheel. Stef On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Erwan Douaille wrote: > That's what i do. Jean Baptiste send me his code, and show me how build a sphere and i'm reading it ... and try to unterstanding how do it ;) > > 2012/3/1 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Excellent! > Erwan should really look how we could use that to build a back end for Lumiere or Klotz. > Alex :) Fernando :) > It will be really fun. > > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > > > I really like do useless thing ;-p. > > > > The control > > for the cube > > x : increase by one the number of cube on the x axis > > y : increase by one the number of cube on the y axis > > z : increase by one the number of cube on the z axis > > X : decrease by one the number of cube on the x axis > > Y : decrease by one the number of cube on the y axis > > Z : decrease by one the number of cube on the z axis > > > > left arrow : turn left > > right arrow : turn right > > up arrow : turn up > > down arrow : turn down > > > > Shift left arrow : translate left > > Shift right arrow : translate right > > Shift up arrow : translate up > > Shift down arrow : translate down > > > > space move forward. > > ctrl space (because dont take shift space as specific keystroke and array dont take ctrl so i choose that): move backward. > > > > i search during half a hour but dont find a relevant quote from pinky and the brain. sad. > > What i really like Igor is, i don't need to close the morph for apply my change to the render method, i mean in addition to not recompile the whole project. > > > > > > <NBOpenGL-JB end i am tired.st> > > > > > > <Screen shot 2012-03-01 at 1.26.09 AM.png> > > > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > >> woow... > >> > >> it is always fun to see that something which looks like trash (who can > >> be impressed by a stupid rotating cube today?) > >> can be turned into piece of art with a few keystrokes, just by taking > >> right pictures :) > >> > >> And that's why it is soo fun to work with graphics. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Igor Stasenko. > >> > > > > Regards > > Jean Baptiste Arnaud > > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by Benjamin

On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> I am working on self destructive balloon morphs for such events. >>> Because you want a popup to get the info, but you do not want this popup to interrupt you :) >>> Something like Growl seems to work well ;) >>> (the same when no senders are found etc) >> >> I did that yesterday: >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24369478/VanishingMorph.mov >> >> (you can specify the position, the width the height, the margin, and it automatically split the text if it's too long ^^ ) > > Cool! > Just a question the growlMorph was not good enough? What is this ? Where can I find it ? Ben > > Stef > >

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] FilePlugin rant

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Marcus let us know kills all the dragons at the same time. We will get there and kill them ALL but ONE BY ONE. Dale is working on git and probably git will solve the history metadata for us :). Now I would love to see 1.4 getting beta and green bar. Stef On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > >> I have also experimented the problem of Monticello being unusable > > The sentence should stop here... > > We really need to think hard about Monticello... just look at 1.4 from > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%201.4/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifac… > > Image size: 17.7MB > > Hmm... that's large. Pharo is growing out of leaps and bounds! We add crap all the time! > No, actually not. > > 1. Monticello ancestry. > > MCVersionInfo allInstances do: [ :each | each instVarNamed: 'ancestors' put: nil ]. > > doit, save. --> 12.7 MB. > > So MC wastes 5MB for history. Now history is important. But can we actually use the history? > > The Changes and Source are together now 53MB... because we need the history. But, isn't > that what MC should do? Why can't it do it? Even though it wastes 5MB constantly? > > Continuing... > > 2) Scriptloader. Big piece of crap. Delete the class. Save ---> 10.3 MB > > What it does is to define which exact package versions made up a pharo version. So we know what > 14345 was *exactly*. And it records the comment of what changed. > Again: Shoudn't a "software versioning and a revision control system" do *exactly* that? No? > > 3) "ScriptLoader new cleanUpForProduction" does 1 and 2 and removed the tests, does some cleanup > --> 8.3 MB And that is with all the fonts! Fully usable. All tools. (but not SUnit). 8.3 MB.... > > So I really wonder if we don't need to do something different.... > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

a small push today. > >> What i really like Igor is, i don't need to close the morph for apply my change to the render method, i mean in addition to not recompile the whole project. > > Yeeesssssssssss! > > Stef > > Regard Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> >> I am working on self destructive balloon morphs for such events. >> Because you want a popup to get the info, but you do not want this popup to interrupt you :) >> Something like Growl seems to work well ;) >> (the same when no senders are found etc) > > I did that yesterday: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24369478/VanishingMorph.mov > > (you can specify the position, the width the height, the margin, and it automatically split the text if it's too long ^^ ) Cool! Just a question the growlMorph was not good enough? Stef

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

by Erwan Douaille

That's what i do. Jean Baptiste send me his code, and show me how build a sphere and i'm reading it ... and try to unterstanding how do it ;) 2012/3/1 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Excellent! > Erwan should really look how we could use that to build a back end for > Lumiere or Klotz. > Alex :) Fernando :) > It will be really fun. > > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud wrote: > > > I really like do useless thing ;-p. > > > > The control > > for the cube > > x : increase by one the number of cube on the x axis > > y : increase by one the number of cube on the y axis > > z : increase by one the number of cube on the z axis > > X : decrease by one the number of cube on the x axis > > Y : decrease by one the number of cube on the y axis > > Z : decrease by one the number of cube on the z axis > > > > left arrow : turn left > > right arrow : turn right > > up arrow : turn up > > down arrow : turn down > > > > Shift left arrow : translate left > > Shift right arrow : translate right > > Shift up arrow : translate up > > Shift down arrow : translate down > > > > space move forward. > > ctrl space (because dont take shift space as specific keystroke and > array dont take ctrl so i choose that): move backward. > > > > i search during half a hour but dont find a relevant quote from pinky > and the brain. sad. > > What i really like Igor is, i don't need to close the morph for apply my > change to the render method, i mean in addition to not recompile the whole > project. > > > > > > <NBOpenGL-JB end i am tired.st> > > > > > > <Screen shot 2012-03-01 at 1.26.09 AM.png> > > > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > >> woow... > >> > >> it is always fun to see that something which looks like trash (who can > >> be impressed by a stupid rotating cube today?) > >> can be turned into piece of art with a few keystrokes, just by taking > >> right pictures :) > >> > >> And that's why it is soo fun to work with graphics. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Igor Stasenko. > >> > > > > Regards > > Jean Baptiste Arnaud > > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Small usability glitch

by Sebastian Sastre

just for reference, it doesn't in today's one Pharo1.4a Latest update: #14369 sebastian o/ On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Benjamin wrote: > It works in Nautilus with almost the latest Pharo > > > Ben > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> Hi sebastian >> >> This actually used to work that way. >> Will check >> >> Best >> Cami >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Sent: 2012 Mar, Thu, 1 19:25:01 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Small usability glitch >> >> Hey guys, >> >> when opening a SystemBrowser and executing a "Find class..." command (with context menu or cmd-f with focus in the packages pane) there is a dialog listing the classes that matches whatever you type. >> >> So far so great. >> >> The problem is that time and again I use the arrows keys to select the one that I was looking for and press enter only to get a dialog closed in a no-op. >> >> Note that: >> 1. to make that dialog work, the only way is to use the mouse to click on OK or double click the target class and >> 2. the input even says: "Hit return to accept" >> >> so.. >> >> sebastian >> >> o/ >> >> >> >> >

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14370

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks! > Finally we got this code inâ¦ > Thanks camillo > Thanks marcus! Sadly not... it turned out the be not loadable with Monticello, so after wasting far too much time we rolled back and we now have a changeset to try... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14370

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks! Finally we got this code inâ¦ Thanks camillo Thanks marcus! > 14370 > ----- > > Issue 5290: Cleanup Startup Error Handling > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5290 > > Camillo Bruni. > > - provide a more readable log output on stdout > - properly handle the -interactive -headless switch > - reuse existing code when using scripts (CodeLoader) > - cleanup the logging in SmalltalkImage > - added exit code

March 1, 2012