March 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] We crossed 5000 closed issues!

by Christoph Wysseier

Wow, no idea why you should "Develop the development process!!!"... ;) Good work and congrats! Chris Am 06.03.12 14:08, schrieb Marcus Denker: > > Today the bug tracker: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list > > says 436 open out of 5437 issues. > > Thise means we crossed the line of 5000 reports being closed today. > > With the first report from damien.cassou, Jun 5, 2008, this translates > to 3.65 reports being taken care of *every* day. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Filesystem onDisk and inMemory are renamed in 1.4

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-03-06, at 14:22, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Filesystem is part of the Pharo 1.4 image and the code resides in the > Pharo 1.4 repository. > > Essentially, as Lukas pointed out, this is a fork. There is absolutely > nothing wrong with that, especially if you want to base the core on > it. right, it's the fork of FileSystem for pharo :), maybe can name the project PhileSystem :D > However, the problem is what happens with the changes. Do they flow > back to the original author, or do you want to fork completely? Of > course, a collaboration requires at least two parties to work together > :), but it would still be cool to get the position clear. - changes don't flow in this case, although this would be preferable for fixes > Of course, some changes are internal and they have little impact on > the end user, but sometimes the public interface changes, too, and > that is more problematic. Case in point are the onDisk and inMemory > methods which were renamed to disk and memory, respectively. This > basically breaks any previous code that is using Filesystem. Is there > a particular reason for doing this (the original names seem perfectly > legitimate), or was it just a mistake? that was done by me on purpose :) just because I don't care much about english grammar in this case (in vs on) plus it's shorter. and generally you don't prefix getters in smalltalk. But I should introduce the backwards compatible methods again, since I did these changes mainly for myself (since I was for quite some time the only developer on the project). It was not my intention to kill projects that depend on it :) best cami > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC ideas, 5 days to go!

by Carla F. Griggio

Geoffroy, could you develop your idea a little more using the template Janko sent before? Thanks! On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Yes, I'd love that too :) > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> would love to have that :) >> >> On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Geoffroy Couprie wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > I'm not sure if it has been done before, but an image provisioning tool >> would be cool. Imagine a window where you have different image profiles >> (for example, one for Seaside, one for Aida, one for desktop apps), you >> just click on it and it creates a minimal image with all the paquets you >> need. And you can create other profiles by selecting a few Metacello >> configurations. >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Carla F. Griggio < >> carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi everybody! >> > >> > Please remember that project ideas don't have to be projects to do from >> scratch. They could be new features or improvements for projects that are >> already being used or developed. >> > >> > Cheers! >> > Carla. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> >> wrote: >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > Friday is approaching fast and we have so far only 4 complete ideas on >> > this year ideas page: >> > >> > http://gsoc2012.esug.org/ideas >> > >> > Please think harder, two years ago we had 36 ideas and all evolved later >> > to projects, with mentor, second mentor, student etc. So, are we without >> > ideas two years later? :) >> > >> > Best regards >> > Janko >> > >> > >> > Dne 02. 03. 2012 15:05, piÅ¡e Janko MivÅ¡ek: >> > > Hi everyone, >> > > >> > > 7 days to deadline for ideas of this year GSoC! Please think about >> what >> > > would be a nice project for students to work and that way join our >> > > community. And yes, students are welcome to propose projects too! >> > > >> > > Let we "recycle" past project ideas too! Please review them and >> propose >> > > those still valuable. Or change the proposal to suit better. Here they >> > > are: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas . >> > > >> > > Let me and Carla post GSoC related stuff only on Pharo, Squeak and >> VWNC >> > > mailing lists while for other let someone forward those mails there >> > > please. It is just too hard to post on 10+ mailing lists, you know... >> > > >> > > Past GSoC mentors please join the debate on special Smalltalk GSoC >> > > mentors list: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors. >> If >> > > you want to be mentor this year you are welcome to join that list too. >> > > >> > > Best regards >> > > Janko >> > > >> > > S, Janko MivÅ¡ek piÅ¡e: >> > >> Dear Smalltalkers, >> > >> >> > >> Let we apply this year again for the Google Summer of Code, which as >> you >> > >> know is a Google's stipendium program for students to encourage them >> > >> working on open-source projects [1]. >> > >> >> > >> Ok, our first step as community is to collect ideas for possible >> > >> projects and to apply to the GSoC as an organization. Deadline is >> next >> > >> Friday, so please hurry on with ideas. Just put them as reply to this >> > >> email or to admins directly and we will put them on our website [2]. >> > >> >> > >> Your project idea should be written as answers to these questions: >> > >> >> > >> Name >> > >> Level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) >> > >> Possible mentor >> > >> Possible second mentor >> > >> >> > >> Description >> > >> Technical Details >> > >> Benefits to the Student >> > >> Benefits to the Community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> See how such ideas look like in past: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas >> . >> > >> >> > >> Waiting for your ideas >> > >> Carla and Janko, your GSoC Admin team >> > >> >> > >> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 >> > >> [2] http://gsoc2012.esug.org >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Janko MivÅ¡ek >> > Aida/Web >> > Smalltalk Web Application Server >> > http://www.aidaweb.si >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC ideas, 5 days to go!

by Carla F. Griggio

Yes, I'd love that too :) On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > would love to have that :) > > On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Geoffroy Couprie wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm not sure if it has been done before, but an image provisioning tool > would be cool. Imagine a window where you have different image profiles > (for example, one for Seaside, one for Aida, one for desktop apps), you > just click on it and it creates a minimal image with all the paquets you > need. And you can create other profiles by selecting a few Metacello > configurations. > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Carla F. Griggio < > carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everybody! > > > > Please remember that project ideas don't have to be projects to do from > scratch. They could be new features or improvements for projects that are > already being used or developed. > > > > Cheers! > > Carla. > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Friday is approaching fast and we have so far only 4 complete ideas on > > this year ideas page: > > > > http://gsoc2012.esug.org/ideas > > > > Please think harder, two years ago we had 36 ideas and all evolved later > > to projects, with mentor, second mentor, student etc. So, are we without > > ideas two years later? :) > > > > Best regards > > Janko > > > > > > Dne 02. 03. 2012 15:05, piÅ¡e Janko MivÅ¡ek: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > 7 days to deadline for ideas of this year GSoC! Please think about what > > > would be a nice project for students to work and that way join our > > > community. And yes, students are welcome to propose projects too! > > > > > > Let we "recycle" past project ideas too! Please review them and propose > > > those still valuable. Or change the proposal to suit better. Here they > > > are: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas . > > > > > > Let me and Carla post GSoC related stuff only on Pharo, Squeak and VWNC > > > mailing lists while for other let someone forward those mails there > > > please. It is just too hard to post on 10+ mailing lists, you know... > > > > > > Past GSoC mentors please join the debate on special Smalltalk GSoC > > > mentors list: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors. > If > > > you want to be mentor this year you are welcome to join that list too. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Janko > > > > > > S, Janko MivÅ¡ek piÅ¡e: > > >> Dear Smalltalkers, > > >> > > >> Let we apply this year again for the Google Summer of Code, which as > you > > >> know is a Google's stipendium program for students to encourage them > > >> working on open-source projects [1]. > > >> > > >> Ok, our first step as community is to collect ideas for possible > > >> projects and to apply to the GSoC as an organization. Deadline is next > > >> Friday, so please hurry on with ideas. Just put them as reply to this > > >> email or to admins directly and we will put them on our website [2]. > > >> > > >> Your project idea should be written as answers to these questions: > > >> > > >> Name > > >> Level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) > > >> Possible mentor > > >> Possible second mentor > > >> > > >> Description > > >> Technical Details > > >> Benefits to the Student > > >> Benefits to the Community > > >> > > >> > > >> See how such ideas look like in past: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas. > > >> > > >> Waiting for your ideas > > >> Carla and Janko, your GSoC Admin team > > >> > > >> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 > > >> [2] http://gsoc2012.esug.org > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Janko MivÅ¡ek > > Aida/Web > > Smalltalk Web Application Server > > http://www.aidaweb.si > > > > > > > > >

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Filesystem onDisk and inMemory are renamed in 1.4

by Nicolas Cellier

This is not the first rant about it. I guess the most constructive way to help would be to open an issue. Nicolas Le 6 mars 2012 14:22, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > Filesystem is part of the Pharo 1.4 image and the code resides in the > Pharo 1.4 repository. > > Essentially, as Lukas pointed out, this is a fork. There is absolutely > nothing wrong with that, especially if you want to base the core on > it. > > However, the problem is what happens with the changes. Do they flow > back to the original author, or do you want to fork completely? Of > course, a collaboration requires at least two parties to work together > :), but it would still be cool to get the position clear. > > Of course, some changes are internal and they have little impact on > the end user, but sometimes the public interface changes, too, and > that is more problematic. Case in point are the onDisk and inMemory > methods which were renamed to disk and memory, respectively. This > basically breaks any previous code that is using Filesystem. Is there > a particular reason for doing this (the original names seem perfectly > legitimate), or was it just a mistake? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > >

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] We crossed 5000 closed issues!

by Tudor Girba

Great work! Doru On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > congrats! :D > > On 2012-03-06, at 14:08, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> Today the bug tracker: >> >> Â Â Â http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list >> >> says 436 open out of 5437 issues. >> >> Thise means we crossed the line of 5000 reports being closed today. >> >> With the first report from damien.cassou, Jun 5, 2008, this translates >> to 3.65 reports being taken care of *every* day. >> >> Â Â Â Marcus >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 6, 2012

[Pharo-project] Filesystem onDisk and inMemory are renamed in 1.4

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Filesystem is part of the Pharo 1.4 image and the code resides in the Pharo 1.4 repository. Essentially, as Lukas pointed out, this is a fork. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, especially if you want to base the core on it. However, the problem is what happens with the changes. Do they flow back to the original author, or do you want to fork completely? Of course, a collaboration requires at least two parties to work together :), but it would still be cool to get the position clear. Of course, some changes are internal and they have little impact on the end user, but sometimes the public interface changes, too, and that is more problematic. Case in point are the onDisk and inMemory methods which were renamed to disk and memory, respectively. This basically breaks any previous code that is using Filesystem. Is there a particular reason for doing this (the original names seem perfectly legitimate), or was it just a mistake? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] We crossed 5000 closed issues!

by Camillo Bruni

congrats! :D On 2012-03-06, at 14:08, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Today the bug tracker: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list > > says 436 open out of 5437 issues. > > Thise means we crossed the line of 5000 reports being closed today. > > With the first report from damien.cassou, Jun 5, 2008, this translates > to 3.65 reports being taken care of *every* day. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

March 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Colored Stdout/Stderr logging with headless images

by Camillo Bruni

I have a complete implementation of it ready together with a pure-st readline lib ;) So when the time is ready I will integrate it :P On 2012-03-06, at 13:59, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 6 March 2012 13:46, Stefan Marr <smalltalk(a)stefan-marr.de> wrote: >> >> On 06 Mar 2012, at 13:18, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >>> actually its a bit of a hack :D (well the implementation not) >>> >>> but the problem is, that we should properly detect if the terminal supports colors or not ;) otherwise you might get some ugly escape sequences :D >> >> Do you know the tput tool? >> >> I use it in my makefiles like this: >> START_BOLD=$(shell tput bold) >> STOP_BOLD=$(shell tput sgr0) >> >> It gives you the supported escape sequence for a give style based on a database of terminals and your current environment. >> > yeah, but that means that VM (or some plugin/prim) is needed to detect > that it outputs to terminal, > and not redirected to file or pipes output to another process. > >> Best regards >> Stefan >> >> >> -- >> Stefan Marr >> Software Languages Lab >> Vrije Universiteit Brussel >> Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium >> http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr >> Phone: +32 2 629 2974 >> Fax: +32 2 629 3525 >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

March 6, 2012

[Pharo-project] We crossed 5000 closed issues!

by Marcus Denker

Today the bug tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list says 436 open out of 5437 issues. Thise means we crossed the line of 5000 reports being closed today. With the first report from damien.cassou, Jun 5, 2008, this translates to 3.65 reports being taken care of *every* day. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

March 6, 2012