February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by S Krish

GroupWindowMorph is quite capable.. and nice.. #configureForEmbedding needs to be implemented to get it right though across all windows to remove the topLabel, and any other change reqd. Also a System Setting for the default: Open the window in this Tabbed Pane only.. else explicitly open it in World. TabbedPane needs to then behave like an IDE , everything opens as a tab ( optionally right click detach to World ).. also a File Browser on left optionally for external file access with default viewer tabs for each type recognized.. As others comment this is only an optional package.. not imposed for those who are accustomed to the current multiple window paradigm. Ofcourse the eclipse IDE is a complicated hunk with stuff we do not require in Pharo including refactoring which is per browser if OB based.. or another with RB integration.. as also the long list of menu options, right click options..can be pared to the minimum. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > In TWM, Pharo 1.4, there's GroupWindowMorph that can embed any kind of > window as tab. > > Take a look at > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/07/twm-docking-windows.html , 0'56 > > Find attached the changeset for GroupWindowMorph. File in using last Pharo > 1.4 and: > > (GroupWindowMorph new openInWindowLabeled: 'Window organizer') extent: > 400@400. > > > Cheers, > > Laurent > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:15 AM, S Krish < > krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? >> >> Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having >> everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. >> >> Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of >> Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console >> collapsible as reqd >> >> Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. >> there are uses for spawning separate windows.. >> >> >

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus Refactorings

by Luc Fabresse

2012/2/16 Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> > Ben, > > On 14 fÃ©vr. 2012, at 20:23, Benjamin wrote: > > > Basically, the infrastructure is here. > > > > But I still have to copy and past each menu entry :) > > > > It's long and a bit boring, but it's easy to do ^^ > > > I have no idea on how this is implemented. Just wondering if it can't be > automated somehow. At least partially (e.g. a skeleton)? A skeleton might > allow others to help. > > BTW, I installed Nautilus on 1.4-333 yesterday night. Here is some > feedback. > > I like the group idea. But, how can I add a new group ? > right click on a set of packages and "add in group" or (CMD+e). Luc I also wanted to reset a group (last modified, last viewed). How can do it ? > I added a couple of classes, but strangely, they don't show up in the > "last modified" group. > > Noury > > > > > > Ben > > > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > > > >> Cool. I'll give it a try. I'm like mariano, luc and other waiting for > RB support to start using Nautilus as the default browser. > >> > >> Noury > >> On 14 fÃ©vr. 2012, at 18:39, Benjamin wrote: > >> > >>> Hello guys, > >>> > >>> I know a some of you are waiting for the integration of the RB engine > into Nautilus. > >>> > >>> Some of them are already implemented, so if you wanna test them, here > is the gofer script > >>> > >>> Gofer new > >>> url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus'; > >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; > >>> load. > >>> > >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilusRefactoring) perform: > #loadDefault > >>> > >>> > >>> It loads everything. > >>> > >>> For now I have only done some refactorings for classes, so if you > popup the menu on a class, a new item named Refactoring should appear :) > >>> > >>> Moreover, the 'rename class' method is replaced by the RB one :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance for your feedback, and if you want to participate, > you are more than welcome :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Ben > >> > >> Noury > >> -- > >> http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi > >> http://www.kroobe.com/profile/noury > >> > >> > > > > > > Noury > -- > http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi > http://www.kroobe.com/profile/noury > > > Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, > merci de n'imprimer ce courriel qu'en cas de necessite > > Please consider the environment before you print > > > > >

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus Refactorings

by Noury Bouraqadi

Ben, On 14 fÃ©vr. 2012, at 20:23, Benjamin wrote: > Basically, the infrastructure is here. > > But I still have to copy and past each menu entry :) > > It's long and a bit boring, but it's easy to do ^^ > I have no idea on how this is implemented. Just wondering if it can't be automated somehow. At least partially (e.g. a skeleton)? A skeleton might allow others to help. BTW, I installed Nautilus on 1.4-333 yesterday night. Here is some feedback. I like the group idea. But, how can I add a new group ? I also wanted to reset a group (last modified, last viewed). How can do it ? I added a couple of classes, but strangely, they don't show up in the "last modified" group. Noury > > > Ben > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > >> Cool. I'll give it a try. I'm like mariano, luc and other waiting for RB support to start using Nautilus as the default browser. >> >> Noury >> On 14 fÃ©vr. 2012, at 18:39, Benjamin wrote: >> >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> I know a some of you are waiting for the integration of the RB engine into Nautilus. >>> >>> Some of them are already implemented, so if you wanna test them, here is the gofer script >>> >>> Gofer new >>> url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>> load. >>> >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilusRefactoring) perform: #loadDefault >>> >>> >>> It loads everything. >>> >>> For now I have only done some refactorings for classes, so if you popup the menu on a class, a new item named Refactoring should appear :) >>> >>> Moreover, the 'rename class' method is replaced by the RB one :) >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your feedback, and if you want to participate, you are more than welcome :) >>> >>> >>> Ben >> >> Noury >> -- >> http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi >> http://www.kroobe.com/profile/noury >> >> > > Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://www.kroobe.com/profile/noury Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer ce courriel qu'en cas de necessite Please consider the environment before you print

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by S Krish

As choices go, the limitation need not be imposed. But most times I find it tough to navigate through plethora of Browsers, Senders, implementors and ofcourse the little effort to go back to the World to right click open the menu for various other tools. I am mostly through last decade working on VW/ VA/ Pharo .. but the occasional works you do on eclipse, VisualStudio and even stuff like Gedit, etc.. leaves you with a feeling that the optional tabbed pane capability should be a package provided. For newbies, the multiple windows is a paradigm shift anyways.. Integrated IDE with its Menu of actions, and a left side optional file browser tree, that opens all normal project files: images, code, ini, xml, etc in their custom views, plain text view or optional external editor, makes Project building a lot easier for simple projects.. These may not of much concern to long term smalltalkers.. but it is in the corporate world. I will check on the other morph Laurent refers to.. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch>wrote: > Hi, i wanted to comment a bit on the proposed ui. > > The problem with this single-window with tab panes, is that it forces > the user to have a single focus of attention, which produces an > overhead in navigation for those programming tasks that require > looking at more than one element at a time. > > Thats why i see more value in our current user interface, of course it > can highly improved... > > Fernando > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:57 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Nice > > > > Stef > > > > On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:15 AM, S Krish wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? > >> > >> Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having > everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. > >> > >> Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of > Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console > collapsible as reqd > >> > >> Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. > there are uses for spawning separate windows.. > >> > >> <PharoTabbedBrowsers.jpg> > > > > > >

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 16 Feb 2012, at 09:38, Fernando Olivero wrote: > The problem with this single-window with tab panes, is that it forces > the user to have a single focus of attention, which produces an > overhead in navigation for those programming tasks that require > looking at more than one element at a time. > > Thats why i see more value in our current user interface, of course it > can highly improved... I personally don't like it either (I don't like Eclipse or IntelliJ), but I understand that some people do and I respect that. So it is great to have options, both TWM and S Krish's work are very nice. Sven

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by Fernando Olivero

Hi, i wanted to comment a bit on the proposed ui. The problem with this single-window with tab panes, is that it forces the user to have a single focus of attention, which produces an overhead in navigation for those programming tasks that require looking at more than one element at a time. Thats why i see more value in our current user interface, of course it can highly improved... Fernando On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:57 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Nice > > Stef > > On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:15 AM, S Krish wrote: > >> >> >> Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? >> >> Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. >> >> Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console collapsible as reqd >> >> Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. there are uses for spawning separate windows.. >> >> <PharoTabbedBrowsers.jpg> > >

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by laurent laffont

Hi, In TWM, Pharo 1.4, there's GroupWindowMorph that can embed any kind of window as tab. Take a look at http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/07/twm-docking-windows.html, 0'56 Find attached the changeset for GroupWindowMorph. File in using last Pharo 1.4 and: (GroupWindowMorph new openInWindowLabeled: 'Window organizer') extent: 400@400. Cheers, Laurent On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:15 AM, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? > > Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having > everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. > > Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of > Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console > collapsible as reqd > > Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. > there are uses for spawning separate windows.. > >

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Nice Stef On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:15 AM, S Krish wrote: > > > Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? > > Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. > > Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console collapsible as reqd > > Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. there are uses for spawning separate windows.. > > <PharoTabbedBrowsers.jpg>

Feb. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits in PHP

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > what is the difference with the current trait implementation in pharo? I could not see the differenceâ¦ Stefan replied but what I wanted to say is that I would like to have the time to see how we can introduce more nicely traits. Right now there are edges where this is ugly and also rethink the system. I think that if we would have first class slots we could have traits with state in a much better fashion. Stef > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:45 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Indeed. Now I would love that we rethink our trait implementation and tool support but no time. > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:40 AM, blake wrote: > > > This is kinda cool: > > > > http://phpmaster.com/using-traits-in-php-5-4/ > > > > > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com > Address: Paraguay 523, Floor 7 N, Buenos Aires, Argentina >

Feb. 16, 2012

[Pharo-project] TabbedPane Class/ Package / Workspace browsers

by S Krish

Just this quick n usable prototype.. ? Any comments of its utility.. I for one would rather prefer having everything navigable from one Tabbed Pane.. Panes capable of rendering about every window of the basic tools of Pharo.. workspace, Finder, ScriptManager, possibly Transcript as a console collapsible as reqd Akin to the eclipse but not really that intensively single windowed.. there are uses for spawning separate windows..

Feb. 16, 2012