February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] A challenge for all who cares

by Guido Stepken

Sounds cool editing and executing Smalltalk code in a Wiki! :-) Have fun! Guido Stepken Am 20.02.2012 11:21 schrieb "Edgar J. De Cleene" <edgardec2005(a)gmail.com>: > Yesterday in a response to Craig I said have a Cuis with a wiki on top > and this .image is 5 mb and run on a âmodernâ G4 400 mhz PowerMac. > > Thatâs is a beauty and the power of Cuis, thanks Juan for your reduced > image of 2 mb > > 117.192.108.122 > 178.64.152.244 > 190.18.66.65 > 190.193.183.54 > 190.216.29.120 > 190.99.158.210 > 201.212.74.182 > 201.252.254.21 > 64.151.43.167 > 76.110.216.6 > 76.15.23.5 > 76.68.49.175 > 86.42.80.90 > 88.161.169.54 > 92.225.135.195 > 93.38.215.238 > > This was the captured Ip, ranging from Atlanta, Paris,Milano, St > Petersbourg, Hamburg, Sunchales, Buenos Aires . > > Off course some have halts as all is towards to alpha real soon now :=) > > In the process I fix some errors of the wiki, discover Cuis do not know > how import Morph and must to do a mix between Juan code which is superior > and old Squeak code just for compatibility. > Lo lamento Juan por ensuciar el Cuis. > > So the challenge is: > > Taking http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/SqueakLight/Cuis3.1r.4.zip as > target we could build it from Spoon ? > And add the best of Pharo, Squeak, whatever (external JavaScript) for > having a killer system which document to self like Cuis3.1r.11.image > running today on http://201.212.74.182:8086/ > > Siganme los buenos ! > > > Edgar > > P.S Fell free to contact direct to edgardec2005(a)gmail.com > > Edgar >

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Script for building 1-click images

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 20 Feb 2012, at 11:03, Martin Sandiford wrote: > The script fetches the latest successful CogVM build from Jenkins for Linux and MacOS. If there is a better source, then it should not be too hard to change. Sorry, Martin, My bad, I read too quickly over the read me on github: yes you do it correctly ;-) I though you just plugged the 1.4 image into a 1.3 one-click, but you do switch the vm as well. Sven

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Why do we use Pharo? a.k.a. rethinking Pharo marketing

by Guido Stepken

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticity Am 20.02.2012 09:24 schrieb "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> I would like to get from you why you use Pharo? > >> > >> > >> > >> After thinking a lot about that recently I think that I would like to > have something like that: > >> > >> Pharo a plastic language to build evolvable and debuggable > applications. With Pharo and its ecosystem you can build powerful tools > (web application, data management, business processesâ¦). Pharo philosophy > is driven by domain driven design. Modeling is agile. Pharo is an > executable modeling language. Pharo is not only a language but an > infrastructure with powerful tools like Moose. > >> Plastic = "(in science and technology) of or relating to the > permanent deformation of a solid without fracture by the temporary > application of force." > >> > > I agree with your usage of "plastic", but there are some unfortunate > english slang associations that you might want to stay away from... > > "General term for a fake, or in reference to a shallow person." > > http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/plastic > > > Yes I looked at that and I was not happy with it. > > resilience may be better > > > > > > Perhaps "ductile" would suit the same purpose. > > "able to undergo change of form without breaking" > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ductile > > > > There is also "malleable" (but I think the shorter syllables of ductile > is nicer to read) > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malleable > > > > cheers, -ben > > > >> Pharo: ease of modeling, essence of agile, close to objects all the > time. > >> Stef > >> > >> > > > > > > >

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Script for building 1-click images

by Martin Sandiford

On Monday, February 20, 2012, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > But I believe the general feeling is that the VM included in the 1.3 > One-Click is not the most up to date one, maybe someone else can give a > definitive answer of what should be done best to make the most up to date > One-Click. > The script fetches the latest successful CogVM build from Jenkins for Linux and MacOS. If there is a better source, then it should not be too hard to change. Would also appreciate any info on the best source for a Windows VM too... Cheers, Martin

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Why do we use Pharo? a.k.a. rethinking Pharo marketing

by Craig Latta

"fluid"? -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 3547

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Script for building 1-click images

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 20 Feb 2012, at 10:40, Martin Sandiford wrote: > Hi Folks, > > In the hope that it might be useful, I've somewhat tidied up some > scripts I've been using to build 1-click images from Jenkins and > uploaded to github. > > Nothing much to the script, but hoping it might ease the burden for > whomever is doing this by hand at the moment. > > Git repo is here: https://github.com/msandiford/mk1click > > Cheers, > Martin Cool. But I believe the general feeling is that the VM included in the 1.3 One-Click is not the most up to date one, maybe someone else can give a definitive answer of what should be done best to make the most up to date One-Click. Sven

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus Refactorings

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Ben, On 19 Feb 2012, at 20:51, Benjamin wrote: > This method is actually defined in AbstractTool in the package Tool, so I have proposed a slice :) > Now waiting for the integrators :) Yeah, these integrators are so slow, they take at least a day before integrating anything ;-) Anyway the breakpoints are working now, super ! I noticed that the menu item text changes, cool, maybe add one of your nice icons too ?? BTW, please add the nautilus icon in the world menu, it is well deserved. Also, the window about menu displays the class comment of NautilusUI, maybe you can make it a bit more sexy. Sven

Feb. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] Script for building 1-click images

by Martin Sandiford

Hi Folks, In the hope that it might be useful, I've somewhat tidied up some scripts I've been using to build 1-click images from Jenkins and uploaded to github. Nothing much to the script, but hoping it might ease the burden for whomever is doing this by hand at the moment. Git repo is here: https://github.com/msandiford/mk1click Cheers, Martin

Feb. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Why do we use Pharo? a.k.a. rethinking Pharo marketing

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 20 Feb 2012, at 09:24, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> I would like to get from you why you use Pharo? >>> >>> >>> >>> After thinking a lot about that recently I think that I would like to have something like that: >>> >>> Pharo a plastic language to build evolvable and debuggable applications. With Pharo and its ecosystem you can build powerful tools (web application, data management, business processesâ¦). Pharo philosophy is driven by domain driven design. Modeling is agile. Pharo is an executable modeling language. Pharo is not only a language but an infrastructure with powerful tools like Moose. >>> Plastic = "(in science and technology) of or relating to the permanent deformation of a solid without fracture by the temporary application of force." >>> >> I agree with your usage of "plastic", but there are some unfortunate english slang associations that you might want to stay away from... >> "General term for a fake, or in reference to a shallow person." >> http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/plastic > > > Yes I looked at that and I was not happy with it. > > resilience may be better There once was Resilient embedded Smalltalk by OOVM... >> >> Perhaps "ductile" would suit the same purpose. >> "able to undergo change of form without breaking" >> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ductile >> >> There is also "malleable" (but I think the shorter syllables of ductile is nicer to read) >> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malleable >> >> cheers, -ben >> >>> Pharo: ease of modeling, essence of agile, close to objects all the time. >>> Stef >>> >>> >> >> > >

Feb. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] A challenge for all who cares

by Edgar J. De Cleene

Yesterday in a response to Craig I said have a Cuis with a wiki on top and this .image is 5 mb and run on a Â³modernÂ² G4 400 mhz PowerMac. ThatÂ¹s is a beauty and the power of Cuis, thanks Juan for your reduced image of 2 mb 117.192.108.122 178.64.152.244 190.18.66.65 190.193.183.54 190.216.29.120 190.99.158.210 201.212.74.182 201.252.254.21 64.151.43.167 76.110.216.6 76.15.23.5 76.68.49.175 86.42.80.90 88.161.169.54 92.225.135.195 93.38.215.238 This was the captured Ip, ranging from Atlanta, Paris,Milano, St Petersbourg, Hamburg, Sunchales, Buenos Aires . Off course some have halts as all is towards to alpha real soon now :=) In the process I fix some errors of the wiki, discover Cuis do not know how import Morph and must to do a mix between Juan code which is superior and old Squeak code just for compatibility. Lo lamento Juan por ensuciar el Cuis. So the challenge is: Taking http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/SqueakLight/Cuis3.1r.4.zip as target we could build it from Spoon ? And add the best of Pharo, Squeak, whatever (external JavaScript) for having a killer system which document to self like Cuis3.1r.11.image running today on http://201.212.74.182:8086/ Siganme los buenos ! Edgar P.S Fell free to contact direct to edgardec2005(a)gmail.com Edgar

Feb. 20, 2012