February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Helene Bilbo wrote: > > Hilaire Fernandes wrote >> >> Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating >> System. >> DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. >> http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video >> > > Looks very intriguing! I hope there will soon be an AndroidVM on Jenkins. > Yes, we now have a 64 bit linux slave running: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/computer/pharo-build-64/ (happily already taking a share of the load of building normal projects) Getting the Android build there is the next step. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android

by Helene Bilbo

Hilaire Fernandes wrote > > Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating > System. > DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. > http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video > Looks very intriguing! I hope there will soon be an AndroidVM on Jenkins. Is it only the VM or did you change things on the DrGeo side of things too for something like zoom-gestures? Did you describe the process of how to take the app from desktop (or what's the opposite of tablet?) to tablet somewhere? Or can you use exactly the same image? I would be very interested in learning more about it.. best regards, helene. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/DrGeo-on-ARM-Android-tp4409727p4410128.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fed up with the troll - my personal response

by Esteban Lorenzano

:) El 22/02/2012, a las 8:23a.m., Nick Ager escribiÃ³: > Trolls are so repetitive - it's not difficult to parody them... > > http://troller.seasidehosting.st/ > > Nick

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android

by Jordi Delgado

Thanks for the port, Dimitry and Hilaire, looks very interesting... And Guido, frankly, what is the purpose of your comment? It does not make much sense. You are doing no favor to DrGeo developers. This is, literally, trolling. I really hope you are having lots of fun, otherwise this is simply idiotic. I will not reply anymore to this thread, just could not avoid it... Bests, Jordi > Am 22.02.2012 10:33 schrieb "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)edu.ge.ch > >: > > > > Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating > > System. > > DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. > > http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo > > I read about Dr.Geo in many educational journals, a very good reputation - > worldwide. > > But sorry to tell you (yes, the troll again!), but if you had taken the c++ > codebase, with little work compiled it with XCode, uploaded it to appstore, > you could have sold ... hmmm ... 100.000-400.000 for 1.50? each.... > > You loose much, much, much money on going with Pharo! > > Wrong marketing. > > Have fun! > > Guido Stepken

Feb. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14347

by Marcus Denker

14347 ----- Issue 5348: simplify #cleanUpForRelease a little http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5348 Issue 5347: StartupPreferences has no repository attached http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5347 Issue 5346: FlatMessageListBrowser send error when a menu action is selected when no item is selected http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5346 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Netstyle experience (was Do not feed the trolls)

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, El 22/02/2012, a las 8:07a.m., Denis Kudriashov escribiÃ³: > 2012/2/22 Christoph Wysseier <c.wysseier(a)netstyle.ch> > Dear Stef > > Am 22.02.12 08:32, schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > > I'm convinced that having support for multitouch event/ genie and others works (for iPad = $$$$) is important. > > Without pretending to know the future, IMHO standalone apps for tablets and mobile will disappear over time. > I don't see this happening anytime soon either. I think two years ago this was the most extended concept about the future of computers (and I was a bit disappointed, tbh), but that changed a lot with tablet market growing: most tablet applications are standalone applications, old fashioned desktop apps (and even some are old fashion client-server apps). This is not decreasing, but the opposite. Even more, I observed that, while big companies, in effect, are moving to web platform and cloud. Small companies prefer desktop applications. As I said in web panel at ESUG: I already saw this happening. Time to time development moves onto one direction (all in the desktop, all in the server) and people seems to think one of the sides will prevail... I think real future is (and always has been) somewhere in the middle... taking case to case to decide, there is no one unique answer. best, Esteban > Or maybe web application disappear over time. > Most device providers creates own app stores which includes native application for devices (not web applications). And specialised devices market always grow. > All customers want see there client frontend applications at each market. > > I think standalone computers will become less popular each year. And so classic web applications too. > > >

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android

by Denis Kudriashov

I see pharo apps at apple store which is not free. 2012/2/22 Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> > Am 22.02.2012 10:33 schrieb "Hilaire Fernandes" < > hilaire.fernandes(a)edu.ge.ch>: > > > > > Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating > > System. > > DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. > > http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo > > I read about Dr.Geo in many educational journals, a very good reputation - > worldwide. > > But sorry to tell you (yes, the troll again!), but if you had taken the > c++ codebase, with little work compiled it with XCode, uploaded it to > appstore, you could have sold ... hmmm ... 100.000-400.000 for 1.50â¬ > each.... > > You loose much, much, much money on going with Pharo! > > Wrong marketing. > > Have fun! > > Guido Stepken >

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] DrGeo on ARM Android

by Guido Stepken

Am 22.02.2012 10:33 schrieb "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)edu.ge.ch >: > > Dimitry and I are working on the DrGeo port to the Android ARM Operating > System. > DrGeo on Pharo with Stack VM proves to be smooth and neat to use. > http://www.drgeo.eu/screenshot-video > > Thanks > > -- > Dr. Geo I read about Dr.Geo in many educational journals, a very good reputation - worldwide. But sorry to tell you (yes, the troll again!), but if you had taken the c++ codebase, with little work compiled it with XCode, uploaded it to appstore, you could have sold ... hmmm ... 100.000-400.000 for 1.50â¬ each.... You loose much, much, much money on going with Pharo! Wrong marketing. Have fun! Guido Stepken

Feb. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fed up with the troll - my personal response

by Nick Ager

Trolls are so repetitive - it's not difficult to parody them... http://troller.seasidehosting.st/ Nick

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Netstyle experience (was Do not feed the trolls)

by Denis Kudriashov

2012/2/22 Christoph Wysseier <c.wysseier(a)netstyle.ch> > Dear Stef > > Am 22.02.12 08:32, schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > > I'm convinced that having support for multitouch event/ genie and others >> works (for iPad = $$$$) is important. >> > > Without pretending to know the future, IMHO standalone apps for tablets > and mobile will disappear over time. > Or maybe web application disappear over time. Most device providers creates own app stores which includes native application for devices (not web applications). And specialised devices market always grow. All customers want see there client frontend applications at each market. I think standalone computers will become less popular each year. And so classic web applications too.

Feb. 22, 2012