February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3

by Igor Stasenko

On 25 February 2012 11:15, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Sig, > > This is helpful, as you have told me Â what is killing my images. Â Then you say to load then you say to load the latest config. Â Happy to comply, but how do I do that? > (ConfigurationOfWhatever project version: 'x.y.z') load or better learn more about metacello, there's a well-written chapter of it from the guys who care https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/viewvc.php/*checkout*/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/Met… > Bill > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguctua(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:39 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3 > > On 25 February 2012 06:52, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 25 February 2012 06:35, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: >>> Sig, >>> >>> Sorry about the empty reply. Â Migrate is fair game, and the image was healthy enough to file out the base (attached). Â Please look over how I install FFI to see if there are any mistakes. Â You might need to stub out a basic subclass (e.g. MigrateSig or anything else you want to call it) with a few methods (#me, #homeGrownClasses, etc.) to make it happy. Â Content of them can be simple to start. Â The "private stuff" has yet to enter the picture so shouldn't matter to us. >>> >>> THANKS!!! >>> >> Good. I will take a look. >> >>> Bill > > Ok, things for starting: > > > Â Â Â Â Gofer new > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â url:self mirror, 'MetacelloRepository'; > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â package: 'ConfigurationOfAlien'; > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â load. > Â Â Â Â (Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'ConfigurationOfAlien') > perform:#loadLatestVersion. > > > Never ever use #loadLatestVersion, always use concrete version > numbers, if you want to have stability. > > In our case, #loadLatestVersion is not quite latest, you can check it > by yourself: > > > ConfigurationOfAlien project updateProject. > ConfigurationOfAlien project latestVersion Â "inspect it" > > 0.1 [ConfigurationOfAlien] > so it actually loads not the latest available version, but the most > old one. Because it is the only version with #release blessing. > > And i can tell you without even proceeding further, that it won't work > in 1.3 neither in 1.4, because it is too old and not takes into > account > certain changes made in pharo. > > For instance: > > package: 'Alien-Prereqs' > > is no longer needed, as i told here: > > http://forum.world.st/Alien-Prerequisites-is-now-not-required-td3258432.html > > but its even worse, this version of config will be loading > Alien-Prereqs-mha.3 which having even more overrides, > and will definitely put image to its knees because compiler will be broken. > > So, try to load latest config first, if it would not help we will continue. > > P.S. to all people involved in using Alien.. some love needed to > update configs for pharo 1.3 and 1.4 to finally get rid of > Â 'Alien-Prereqs' package loading. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get refactorings with nautilus

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 26, 2012, at 3:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I took Nautilus with refactoring on jenkins but I do not find the refactorings. > In the menu? But you need to take care that there is right know no way to get the menu other then right-click. Command-Click which is normally the same is not the same in this case... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] fun with NBOpenGL

by Igor Stasenko

On 25 February 2012 17:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> >> Also, I remember in OpenCroquet Squeak could parse positional arguments of the form ogl glThis(x,y,x); glThat(x,y,z); -- doesn't it make sense to bring this back, since most of the OpenGL code examples on the internet are in this form ? > > I guess that you want to know since you ask: the answer is NO! > It makes no sense to do that. When it was a time to decide what syntax to use we had a discussion about it, and Croquet guys said, that they prefer normal keyword based syntax, despite they having this syntax extension for positional arguments. NBOpenGL methods are generated from opengl specs. and its easy to change the output of generator, without doing monkey work of rewriting 2000+ methods. So, if you can't live without it, you can create own bindings with any other syntax you want by changing the code generator: http://www.squeaksource.com/OpenGLSpecs > >> On an unrelated note, I'm confused by this ConfigurationOf/Gofer/Montecello system. How do people new to Pharo find out what these URLs and special configuration loading code are ? > > Read the monticello and metacello chapters on pharo by example 2 > > and look at MetacelloRepository. > >> Seems like everyone is just copying and pasting code from forums into workspaces. Couldn't these code fragments for loading configurations be loaded automatically via a URL or something ? > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14360

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

14360 ----- - Issue 5392: Add some announcement to Metacello. Thanks Benjamin van Ryseghem. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5392 - Issue 5398: Clean up #isBlueBookCompiled.Thanks Marcus Denker. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5398 - Issue 5397: Cleanup Multilingual Fonts more... Thanks Marcus Denker. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5397 - Issue 5391: Clean Font Donwloading. Thanks Marcus Denker. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5391 - Issue 5388: Clean BlockNode old style code. Thanks Marcus Denker. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5388 Stef

Feb. 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] How to get refactorings with nautilus

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I took Nautilus with refactoring on jenkins but I do not find the refactorings. Stef

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14355

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Wouldn't something simplistic like squeak PackageDependencyTest help? would be good to try and learn as a start. Stef

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14355

by Nicolas Cellier

Wouldn't something simplistic like squeak PackageDependencyTest help? Nicolas Le 26 fÃ©vrier 2012 09:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> a Ã©crit : > >>> Of course it is always much better if the author of the patch can see >>> that it caused some problem than when some other person must later >>> investigate what patch of an update has evil side effect. >>> >>> I hardly need to tell you that it is very demotivating to wait what >>> next will break something again (as this week one single update fixed >>> one issue and brought the next one). Instead of improving of the >>> system we must spend a lot of energy on maintenance. >>> >>> We definitely must improve the QA process. >> >> To support my lemmenting I must say that the state of non-failing >> kernel jobs lasted only 10 hours. :-) > > Excellent! :) > Seriously it means that we should work on rules checking so that we identify the violations. > People used tests for that now as soon as we have small lint we should be able to express architecture rules. > > Stef > > >

Feb. 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] Package "TrueType" vs. FreeType

by Marcus Denker

Hi, There are two implementations of TrueType in the system. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5396 Do we need both? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:24 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi hannes > > I tried to understand the purpose of your emails but I could not. > - So do you suggest that we all stop Smalltalk and move to javascript? > - What is your motivation? > - This is good for us to know that but then so what? > - Does it help us anyhow to make pharo better? > - Did you try to port the code to Squeak? > - Do you know if the global handling of coordinates have been changed? > We can spend our life looking why other people are doing or we can invent OUR future. > For the "Lets all just do JavaScript". There was a very, uhm , disappointed blog post by Gilad after they did the javascript implementation of NewSpeak... JavaScript is *not* a good implementation language for languages. Especially not if you want to do something new. If you build on top of JS, you will be very very contraint in what is possible... and the things *I* want to build in the future with Pharo are just impossible to do on top of javascript. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] change pharo image title

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Gary do you use HostMenu? Because we were looking at the event handling logic with igor and we thought to rewrite it completely. It slows us down to release our event cleaning. Stef On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > For Windows only... > > (HostWindowProxy new instVarNamed: #windowHandle put: Win32Window getFocus; yourself) > windowTitle: aString > > > Would be nice if the HostWindow stuff had some develpment time... > > Regards, Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Usman Bhatti > To: Pharo Development > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:56 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] change pharo image title > > Is there a way to programmatically set the title of a pharo image on startup? I grabbed the first level pasteup morph and tried to play with it but I didn't find the intended method. > > thanx > > usman

Feb. 26, 2012