February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by Benjamin

I am just fixing Jenkins right now :) The thing is to properly work, this version depend on the last version of AbstractTool not yet integrated (I forgot to push it earlier). But by the way, the image on jenkins should be ok :) There are 4 versions of Nautilus on Jenkins: - Nautilus without RPackage: really old and out dated but used by Nick for this experimentations about remote debugging - Nautilus-Core: Nautilus without Refactorings - Nautilus: the browse and the Refactorings - Nautilus-Release: the full version with refactorings and OCompletion (I just added it to Jenkins, so the time the script is detected and the image successfully build, it could take some time). Or you can load the latest version of ConfigurationOfNautilus[1] and load what you want (there are methods on class side: loadCore, loadRefactorings and loadRelease). If you do that, you first have to reinitialize Nautilus (because the groups changed a lot) by doing Nautilus initialize. You will lose your current groups, but it should not be a big deal :) [1] Gofer new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; load. Nautilus initialize. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilus) perform: #load#{Refactorings | Core | Release}. It should work :) Ben On Feb 26, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Ben, > > On 26 Feb 2012, at 18:28, Benjamin wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I really want to thank you all for your feedbacks which give me the will to always add cool features to Nautilus. >> >> Thanks to that, let me introduce the new stable version with some new features: >> >> - better groups (now the granularity is method and no longer class) >> - better algorithm for coloring protocols and methods >> - more menu entries and shortcuts >> - Monticello integration >> - OCompletion integration >> - a lot of new icons :) >> >> (and some cleans in the code but ^^) >> >> >> Thanks every one for your good energy :) >> >> >> Ben > > Great! > > Can you put up a page somewhere describing the official way to get Nautilus with all its goodies loaded or how to update it correctly ? I know there is the CI image, but there seems to be some confusion around the ConfigurationOfNautilus. > > Thx, > > Sven > >

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Ben, > > On 26 Feb 2012, at 18:28, Benjamin wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I really want to thank you all for your feedbacks which give me the will > to always add cool features to Nautilus. > > > > Thanks to that, let me introduce the new stable version with some new > features: > > > > - better groups (now the granularity is method and no longer class) > > - better algorithm for coloring protocols and methods > > - more menu entries and shortcuts > > - Monticello integration > > - OCompletion integration > > - a lot of new icons :) > > > > (and some cleans in the code but ^^) > > > > > > Thanks every one for your good energy :) > > > > > > Ben > > Great! > > Can you put up a page somewhere describing the official way to get > Nautilus with all its goodies loaded or how to update it correctly ? I know > there is the CI image, but there seems to be some confusion around the > ConfigurationOfNautilus. > > I have a blog post in the owen...but just a little piece ;) Gofer it url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilus) loadRelease. > Thx, > > Sven > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Ben, On 26 Feb 2012, at 18:28, Benjamin wrote: > Hi guys, > > I really want to thank you all for your feedbacks which give me the will to always add cool features to Nautilus. > > Thanks to that, let me introduce the new stable version with some new features: > > - better groups (now the granularity is method and no longer class) > - better algorithm for coloring protocols and methods > - more menu entries and shortcuts > - Monticello integration > - OCompletion integration > - a lot of new icons :) > > (and some cleans in the code but ^^) > > > Thanks every one for your good energy :) > > > Ben Great! Can you put up a page somewhere describing the official way to get Nautilus with all its goodies loaded or how to update it correctly ? I know there is the CI image, but there seems to be some confusion around the ConfigurationOfNautilus. Thx, Sven

Feb. 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] Nautilus version 4.0.4

by Benjamin

Hi guys, I really want to thank you all for your feedbacks which give me the will to always add cool features to Nautilus. Thanks to that, let me introduce the new stable version with some new features: - better groups (now the granularity is method and no longer class) - better algorithm for coloring protocols and methods - more menu entries and shortcuts - Monticello integration - OCompletion integration - a lot of new icons :) (and some cleans in the code but ^^) Thanks every one for your good energy :) Ben

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

by S Krish

Will hive this off to a new package.. rather than tacking it to the PackageTreeExample. My primary prototype involved a SimpleMorphicView.. which I hived off.. but on my image this combined with TabbedPane is a great time saver in navigations.. This is particularly helpful in keyboard navigation down/ right key usage flipping through methods.. down the whole tree. Also have a crude / workable find class/ selector too that can open the relevant tree node.. Sketching out some regular use cases I have: like * group methods in a right side multi text tree pane view kind of a two pane view.. * class browser that opens two paned: instance and class side by side.. , implementors/ senders / references in similar views. * drop in the variables/ class definition also in to this tree traversal to make it bit more complete.. * Create / Define class.. with a simple dialog.. akin to VW.. * Hook up minimal refectoring: move/ copy methods .. accessors.. * Normal browseIt continues to work.. as an when required for System/ OB Browser.. or in future the Nautilus.. Inline expand text view/ other extended button actions, will help make it more than adequate. Just good enough for what I see is my personal predilictions.. Of ********************* if we want specific..packages to open: MorphicViewNewPackageBrowser new packageNames: { 'Morphic' } ; open On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:22 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > thanks :) > > Stef > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:08 PM, S Krish wrote: > > > Hopefully this should be good to play on a Pharo 1.3 image. > > > > It does not work, as expected, in Pharo 1.4 image.. as > > > > MorphTreeColumn>> > > rowMorphFor: aNode > > > > "the rowMorphGetSelector defaults to nil in Pharo 1.3.. !. but is a > block Pharo 1.4.. can hack this to see the same effect.." > > > > I have a hacked.. version for Pharo 1.4 .. but let me figure out the > wirings of MorphTreeColumn better to share it for 1.4 > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > can you send the code that we play with it because I would like to learn > how you do that. > > > > Stef > > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:02 PM, S Krish wrote: > > > > > I love Pharo's ability to mould/ twist in spare time something that is > > > imminently usable.. > > > > > > Just playing around over an hour plus, I find this tree view grouping > > > more convinient than current browsers in giving a coherent view that > > > easily extends: > > > > > > All editable code text morphs, spreading over to mutliple worlds one > > > can traverse too if needed. or appears on tab anyways for each group. > > > > > > a) Package, Class, Category , Hierarchy levels. > > > > > > b) Senders, implementors .. > > > > > > c) Arbitrary groups of methods if one desires to.. > > > > > > Can also include some class definition info bubble/ reduce noise > > > through some more optimization to make it optimized > > > > > > ... we can have a little customizations too to get a good grip of the > > > whole as well as the part. > > > > > > But I agree, Gaucho / Code Bubbles are nice, but I am afraid fo > > > fragmented view it will still represented. May be each will have > > > little twist of his predilictions and cannot be highly generalized. > > > > > > > > > On 2/24/12, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 24 February 2012 00:18, Matias Garcia Isaia < > mgarciaisaia(a)gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > > >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> Nooo!!! he comes from Java!! he starts with index 0. Kill him!!! ;) > > >>> > > >>> Ooops... Time to get a new identity :) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 23 February 2012 19:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> Sure we know. > > >>>> And we also know that it requires effort and lot of people are > talking. > > >>> > > >>> I know there's a loooong way to see what CodeBubbles can do, and that > > >>> requires to do a big effort, but imagined that some kind of > > >>> alternative - I'm not sure that CB is **exactly** what I want (sure > > >>> Java-ers want to see **something more** than just a file pimped with > > >>> colours, but Smalltalk **allready has** much more than a text file - > > >>> have real code) - could be very less effort-consuming. Making the > > >>> current browser (Nautilus? - newbie here :) ) pop a new > > >>> Â¿window?Â¿morph? showing a method instead of updating a single pane > > >>> (the current one showing method's source) don't seems to be so "far" > > >>> away to me. > > >>> > > >>> Of course that's my point of view, based on what I imagine that could > > >>> be. I should spend some time to see how it is implemented, and to see > > >>> if it really is that simple, but anyway trust you if you say is a > huge > > >>> effort... > > >>> > > >> > > >> Well, popping out a new morph every time you clicking around is easy > part. > > >> The hard part is to make this stuff really consistent and easy to use > > >> for navigation and development. > > >> It requires far more serious work than just spending 2 hours > > >> implementing "bubbling" behavior. > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Cheers :) > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Best regards, > > >> Igor Stasenko. > > >> > > >> > > > <Pharo_CodeBrowser01.JPG> > > > > > > > > <PackageTree-Browser-Experiment-skrish.5.mcz> > > >

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can you test 14360 because it behaves strangely

by Andreas Wacknitz

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:48:23 +0100 > Von: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> > An: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Betreff: [Pharo-project] can you test 14360 because it behaves strangely > The debugger opens really slowly. > I cannot access ss3 repositoriesâ¦. > So there is definitively something strange. > > Stf No problems here with 14361, neither Mac OS (Lion) nor Windows 7. Updated from stream. Regards, Andreas

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can you test 14360 because it behaves strangely

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:48 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > The debugger opens really slowly. > I cannot access ss3 repositoriesâ¦. > So there is definitively something strange. > No problem here with the latest from Jenkins: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%201.4/ -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] can you test 14360 because it behaves strangely

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Maybe http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5392 ? On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:48 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote: > The debugger opens really slowly. > I cannot access ss3 repositoriesâ¦. > So there is definitively something strange. > > Stf > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] New IDE alternative (was Misc. newbie questions)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks :) Stef On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:08 PM, S Krish wrote: > Hopefully this should be good to play on a Pharo 1.3 image. > > It does not work, as expected, in Pharo 1.4 image.. as > > MorphTreeColumn>> > rowMorphFor: aNode > > "the rowMorphGetSelector defaults to nil in Pharo 1.3.. !. but is a block Pharo 1.4.. can hack this to see the same effect.." > > I have a hacked.. version for Pharo 1.4 .. but let me figure out the wirings of MorphTreeColumn better to share it for 1.4 > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > can you send the code that we play with it because I would like to learn how you do that. > > Stef > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:02 PM, S Krish wrote: > > > I love Pharo's ability to mould/ twist in spare time something that is > > imminently usable.. > > > > Just playing around over an hour plus, I find this tree view grouping > > more convinient than current browsers in giving a coherent view that > > easily extends: > > > > All editable code text morphs, spreading over to mutliple worlds one > > can traverse too if needed. or appears on tab anyways for each group. > > > > a) Package, Class, Category , Hierarchy levels. > > > > b) Senders, implementors .. > > > > c) Arbitrary groups of methods if one desires to.. > > > > Can also include some class definition info bubble/ reduce noise > > through some more optimization to make it optimized > > > > ... we can have a little customizations too to get a good grip of the > > whole as well as the part. > > > > But I agree, Gaucho / Code Bubbles are nice, but I am afraid fo > > fragmented view it will still represented. May be each will have > > little twist of his predilictions and cannot be highly generalized. > > > > > > On 2/24/12, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 24 February 2012 00:18, Matias Garcia Isaia <mgarciaisaia(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Nooo!!! he comes from Java!! he starts with index 0. Kill him!!! ;) > >>> > >>> Ooops... Time to get a new identity :) > >>> > >>> > >>> On 23 February 2012 19:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Sure we know. > >>>> And we also know that it requires effort and lot of people are talking. > >>> > >>> I know there's a loooong way to see what CodeBubbles can do, and that > >>> requires to do a big effort, but imagined that some kind of > >>> alternative - I'm not sure that CB is **exactly** what I want (sure > >>> Java-ers want to see **something more** than just a file pimped with > >>> colours, but Smalltalk **allready has** much more than a text file - > >>> have real code) - could be very less effort-consuming. Making the > >>> current browser (Nautilus? - newbie here :) ) pop a new > >>> Â¿window?Â¿morph? showing a method instead of updating a single pane > >>> (the current one showing method's source) don't seems to be so "far" > >>> away to me. > >>> > >>> Of course that's my point of view, based on what I imagine that could > >>> be. I should spend some time to see how it is implemented, and to see > >>> if it really is that simple, but anyway trust you if you say is a huge > >>> effort... > >>> > >> > >> Well, popping out a new morph every time you clicking around is easy part. > >> The hard part is to make this stuff really consistent and easy to use > >> for navigation and development. > >> It requires far more serious work than just spending 2 hours > >> implementing "bubbling" behavior. > >> > >>> > >>> Cheers :) > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Igor Stasenko. > >> > >> > > <Pharo_CodeBrowser01.JPG> > > > > <PackageTree-Browser-Experiment-skrish.5.mcz>

Feb. 26, 2012

[Pharo-project] can you test 14360 because it behaves strangely

by stephane ducasse

The debugger opens really slowly. I cannot access ss3 repositoriesâ¦. So there is definitively something strange. Stf

Feb. 26, 2012