February 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] prime number generation issue [Was: Question regarding LinkedList collect:]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok so I will look at the squeak version. On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Do you mean http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4997 ? > > In any case, finding a divisor with a naive iteration on all odd > numbers is not the thing to do. > Programming a deterministic and efficient primality test is a hard thing... > I suggest to simply pick squeak version and let isPrime implemented in > term of isProbablyPrime for large integers, put a comment why. > > Nicolas > > 2012/2/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> thanks >> Nicolas could you have a look at the prime number generation issue? >> >> Stef >> >> >

Feb. 3, 2012

[Pharo-project] About linkedlist

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi I was thinking that linkedList is really not to be used by something else than the scheduler (remember the problem we got with change == into something else). So I was wondering if it would not be simpler/safer to design a generalPurpose fast/robust LinkedList too? Stef

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Shared Smalltalk Workspaces

by Tudor Girba

This is excellent. Doru On 2 Feb 2012, at 21:50, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > I hacked together a little web service called 'Shared Smalltalk Workspaces'. > > http://ws.stfx.eu > > It is basically a pastebin for Smalltalk, a way easily to share Smalltalk workspaces. > > Follow the link above for the details. > > There is a special 'Getting Started' workspace with instructions > > http://ws.stfx.eu/1WS4U > > Here are 2 more examples > > http://ws.stfxeu/8O58R5KF1FLQ > http://ws.stfxeu/8O58TU6FNFL6 > > Enjoy ! > > Sven > > PS: Of course, it is built and served using Pharo 1.4 > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

The most recent recommendation I saw from stef was to use 1.3 over 1.4. Does that still hold? ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:51 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? Dale, I've been trying to load citezen by any means possible. Are there specific packages and load order that I might try with a manual twist. My hunch is that either: (1) MC is hold old info that I don't know how to purge (2) downloads are going bad, either due to the serve or socket stream woes in the image. I admit to messing with some of these things, but I really haven't done that damage yet. I start with fairly benign loads of the various tools I use, and then load my code once the basics are in place. Does that suggest anything I might try? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:38 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? not that I know of:( ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:24:38 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Dale, | | That would be great. I used the pre-built seaside 3.0 pharo | image/one-click. Sadly, I can't interrupt: control-. and alt-. | aren't doing anything. Is there something else I can do to get the | dump? | | Bill | | ________________________________________ | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale | Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:22 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Bill, | | If you can interrupt the process get a stack and send it to me ... I | might be able to tell something about what's going on ... | | Dale | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:08:44 PM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | Stef, | | | | It's trying to load now. The system monitor shows the vm in a | | nanosleep mode for much of the time. I'm going to let it continue | | to see if it can actually finish given lots of time. | | | | Any other ideas? | | | | Bill | | | | | | ________________________________________ | | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane | | Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:31 PM | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | if you urgently needs it load a configuration before we changed. | | probably Name: ConfigurationOfCitezen-StephaneDucasse.53 | | | | Stef | | | | On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | | | > Stef, | | > | | > If you're bored, it would be nice to have confirmation one way or | | > the other. I might have broken something with some of my | | > changes?? However, most of that loads _after_ the staples, | | > among | | > which Citezen is prominent - thanks for it! | | > | | > Bill | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > ________________________________________ | | > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of | | > StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:11 PM | | > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | > | | > On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | > | | >> Hello all, | | >> | | >> I am making progress toward building a 1.3 image, but I am | | >> getting | | >> a hung system when loading (#loadNoWeb) Citezen. Is this a | | >> known | | >> problem? | | > | | > We got a problem with 1.4 and we made the error to change the 1.3 | | > working version :( | | > Now the last time I checked (I can retry) it was loading in 1.3 | | > and | | > 1.4 | | > | | > Stef | | >> | | >> Bill | | >> | | > | | > | | > | | | | | | | | | | |

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Dale, I've been trying to load citezen by any means possible. Are there specific packages and load order that I might try with a manual twist. My hunch is that either: (1) MC is hold old info that I don't know how to purge (2) downloads are going bad, either due to the serve or socket stream woes in the image. I admit to messing with some of these things, but I really haven't done that damage yet. I start with fairly benign loads of the various tools I use, and then load my code once the basics are in place. Does that suggest anything I might try? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:38 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? not that I know of:( ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:24:38 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Dale, | | That would be great. I used the pre-built seaside 3.0 pharo | image/one-click. Sadly, I can't interrupt: control-. and alt-. | aren't doing anything. Is there something else I can do to get the | dump? | | Bill | | ________________________________________ | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale | Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:22 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Bill, | | If you can interrupt the process get a stack and send it to me ... I | might be able to tell something about what's going on ... | | Dale | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:08:44 PM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | Stef, | | | | It's trying to load now. The system monitor shows the vm in a | | nanosleep mode for much of the time. I'm going to let it continue | | to see if it can actually finish given lots of time. | | | | Any other ideas? | | | | Bill | | | | | | ________________________________________ | | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane | | Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:31 PM | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | if you urgently needs it load a configuration before we changed. | | probably Name: ConfigurationOfCitezen-StephaneDucasse.53 | | | | Stef | | | | On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | | | > Stef, | | > | | > If you're bored, it would be nice to have confirmation one way or | | > the other. I might have broken something with some of my | | > changes?? However, most of that loads _after_ the staples, | | > among | | > which Citezen is prominent - thanks for it! | | > | | > Bill | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > ________________________________________ | | > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of | | > StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:11 PM | | > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | > | | > On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | > | | >> Hello all, | | >> | | >> I am making progress toward building a 1.3 image, but I am | | >> getting | | >> a hung system when loading (#loadNoWeb) Citezen. Is this a | | >> known | | >> problem? | | > | | > We got a problem with 1.4 and we made the error to change the 1.3 | | > working version :( | | > Now the last time I checked (I can retry) it was loading in 1.3 | | > and | | > 1.4 | | > | | > Stef | | >> | | >> Bill | | >> | | > | | > | | > | | | | | | | | | | |

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] pdf4smalltalk Re: pharo vision

by Yanni Chiu

On 02/02/12 4:50 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > Just wanted to make sure you guys were aware that Bob Nemec is making a > PDFReport package for VisualWorks that he > intends to present at STIC and port to other smalltalks: > > http://smalltalk-bob.blogspot.com/2012/01/pdf-report-and-law-of-demeter.html > > So maybe there's an opportunity for collaboration. Bob's stuff is a "report" framework (i.e. print tables and headings nicely, etc.) that uses Christian Haider's PDF framework on VW. So the PDF stuff would still need to be ported to Pharo.

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Dale Henrichs

not that I know of:( ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:24:38 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Dale, | | That would be great. I used the pre-built seaside 3.0 pharo | image/one-click. Sadly, I can't interrupt: control-. and alt-. | aren't doing anything. Is there something else I can do to get the | dump? | | Bill | | ________________________________________ | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale | Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:22 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Bill, | | If you can interrupt the process get a stack and send it to me ... I | might be able to tell something about what's going on ... | | Dale | | ----- Original Message ----- | | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:08:44 PM | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | Stef, | | | | It's trying to load now. The system monitor shows the vm in a | | nanosleep mode for much of the time. I'm going to let it continue | | to see if it can actually finish given lots of time. | | | | Any other ideas? | | | | Bill | | | | | | ________________________________________ | | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane | | Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:31 PM | | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | | | if you urgently needs it load a configuration before we changed. | | probably Name: ConfigurationOfCitezen-StephaneDucasse.53 | | | | Stef | | | | On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | | | > Stef, | | > | | > If you're bored, it would be nice to have confirmation one way or | | > the other. I might have broken something with some of my | | > changes?? However, most of that loads _after_ the staples, | | > among | | > which Citezen is prominent - thanks for it! | | > | | > Bill | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > ________________________________________ | | > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of | | > StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | | > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:11 PM | | > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | > | | > On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | > | | >> Hello all, | | >> | | >> I am making progress toward building a 1.3 image, but I am | | >> getting | | >> a hung system when loading (#loadNoWeb) Citezen. Is this a | | >> known | | >> problem? | | > | | > We got a problem with 1.4 and we made the error to change the 1.3 | | > working version :( | | > Now the last time I checked (I can retry) it was loading in 1.3 | | > and | | > 1.4 | | > | | > Stef | | >> | | >> Bill | | >> | | > | | > | | > | | | | | | | | | | |

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Dale, That would be great. I used the pre-built seaside 3.0 pharo image/one-click. Sadly, I can't interrupt: control-. and alt-. aren't doing anything. Is there something else I can do to get the dump? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Dale Henrichs [dhenrich(a)vmware.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:22 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? Bill, If you can interrupt the process get a stack and send it to me ... I might be able to tell something about what's going on ... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:08:44 PM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | Stef, | | It's trying to load now. The system monitor shows the vm in a | nanosleep mode for much of the time. I'm going to let it continue | to see if it can actually finish given lots of time. | | Any other ideas? | | Bill | | | ________________________________________ | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane | Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:31 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | | if you urgently needs it load a configuration before we changed. | probably Name: ConfigurationOfCitezen-StephaneDucasse.53 | | Stef | | On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | | > Stef, | > | > If you're bored, it would be nice to have confirmation one way or | > the other. I might have broken something with some of my | > changes?? However, most of that loads _after_ the staples, among | > which Citezen is prominent - thanks for it! | > | > Bill | > | > | > | > | > ________________________________________ | > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of | > StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] | > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:11 PM | > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? | > | > On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: | > | >> Hello all, | >> | >> I am making progress toward building a 1.3 image, but I am getting | >> a hung system when loading (#loadNoWeb) Citezen. Is this a known | >> problem? | > | > We got a problem with 1.4 and we made the error to change the 1.3 | > working version :( | > Now the last time I checked (I can retry) it was loading in 1.3 and | > 1.4 | > | > Stef | >> | >> Bill | >> | > | > | > | | | |

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

the cpu usage and memory climb gradually; nothing appears to be happening :( ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:08 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? Stef, It's trying to load now. The system monitor shows the vm in a nanosleep mode for much of the time. I'm going to let it continue to see if it can actually finish given lots of time. Any other ideas? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:31 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? if you urgently needs it load a configuration before we changed. probably Name: ConfigurationOfCitezen-StephaneDucasse.53 Stef On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > If you're bored, it would be nice to have confirmation one way or the other. I might have broken something with some of my changes?? However, most of that loads _after_ the staples, among which Citezen is prominent - thanks for it! > > Bill > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:11 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs? > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I am making progress toward building a 1.3 image, but I am getting a hung system when loading (#loadNoWeb) Citezen. Is this a known problem? > > We got a problem with 1.4 and we made the error to change the 1.3 working version :( > Now the last time I checked (I can retry) it was loading in 1.3 and 1.4 > > Stef >> >> Bill >> > > >

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen - any bugs?

by Dale Henrichs

Feb. 3, 2012