December 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Lua scripting with nativeboost?

by Esteban Lorenzano

and is still a bad reason :) are you going to use a dynamic language (lua), to script a dynamic language (pharo)? if you launch a lua interpreter to run a script, you are in practice doing exactly the same as launching a new image to run your script. So you are doing exactly the same as Igor suggested, but replacing one dynamic language with another. and of course, you are "buying" the extra problem of: 1) interact with another language and define the input and output and conversions between one and the other. 2) downgrade the power of pharo into a language who is more limitated. IMO, that's non-sense. Esteban On Dec 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Marten Feldtmann <marten(a)schrievkrom.de> wrote: > And this is the biggest reason to use Lua as a scripting language. > > Marten > > On 12.12.2012 10:47, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> i think the easiest solution is to run a separate image. >> if you want to run in same image, then you have to modify compiler/environment >> for sandboxed code, where nothing can sneak through and access private data. >> >> > <marten.vcf>

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Lua scripting with nativeboost?

by Marten Feldtmann

And this is the biggest reason to use Lua as a scripting language. Marten On 12.12.2012 10:47, Igor Stasenko wrote: > i think the easiest solution is to run a separate image. > if you want to run in same image, then you have to modify compiler/environment > for sandboxed code, where nothing can sneak through and access private data. > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

On 12 dec 2012, at 11:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 12 Dec 2012, at 11:20, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> ok I understand now thank you all for the clarifications. > >> Very exciting and powerful stuff, the more I learn about pharo and smalltalk the more I love it. > > Yes, Dimitris, that is the idea. But you have been warned: once you get infected it is hard to go back ;-) That was the understatement of the year: I went from using Smalltalk in my daily job for 15 years, to Java. Two years later and not a day goes by that I don't wish I could have carried on using Smalltalk! How long does it take for the infection to be cured, anyone know? -- Cheers, Peter. > One other thing: there is a Pharo-Users mailing list as well, it has less traffic, but the idea is that conversations like the one in this thread (how do I do this or that ? what does this or that mean ?) are better held there. > > http://www.pharo-project.org/community > > Keep on asking questions ! > >> From: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 12:15 >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >> >> No, just a method added to a class, and categorized with a special name: *NameOfThePackageWhereItBelongs >> >> Esteban >> >> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:11 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Oh I see, very clever, are those methods traits ? >>> >>> From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:48 >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >>> >>> If you have got a package named MyPackage then if some class that is not part of this package has got some methods in categories named like *MyPackage(-Something) (star, package name, optional category) then this methods are bundled together with MyPackage. >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> thanks added to my list of things to study :) >>> >>> From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:33 >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >>> >>> >>> On 12 Dec 2012, at 10:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the reply , by "extension" you mean inheritance ? Package A class subclasses package B class ? >>> >>> No, it is extension with respect to Monticello/RPackage packaging. >>> >>>> From: Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr; dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 11:19 >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus and grey out text >>>> >>>> If a package A adds an exteinson to a class from different package B then the extended class from package B is grayed out and all methods that are not part of the package A too. >>>> >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> I went through the Nautilus pdf and it seems to explains most of the thing but the grey out text. Any idea why some classess and methods are grey out ? >>>> >>>> By the way congratulation to Nautilus author and all people contributing to it , it certainly looks like a big improvement over the classic system browser. >>> >>> -- >>> Sven Van Caekenberghe >>> http://stfx.eu >>> Smalltalk is the Red Pill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-consortium] VMWare golden pharo consortium :)

by Norbert Hartl

Am 11.12.2012 um 10:09 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi guys > > we are happy to announce that VMWare is a golden consortium member of the pharo consortium. > A good member indeed. Thanks to our friends at Geâ¦.VMWare! Norbert

Dec. 12, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20434

by Esteban Lorenzano

20434 ----- Issue 7062: Package extensions not present in the package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7062 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Support-EstebanLorenzano.758.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Monticello-EstebanLorenzano.734.diff now yes :)

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20433

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeah, is broken... I'm reverting the change On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well :-) then what issues because it seem that it broke Pharo Kernel 2.0 Seaside job: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%20Kernel%202.0%20Seaside/45/console > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > oops! > my mistake... is not that issue who is integrated > > (that happens when you just copy and paste without looking :P) > > On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why so many dirty packages? It seems that there are more changes than only this one issue. >> >> -- Pavel >> >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 20433 >> ----- >> >> Issue 7062: Package extensions not present in the package >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7062 >> >> Diff information: >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Tools-EstebanLorenzano.1001.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Text-EstebanLorenzano.44.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Support-EstebanLorenzano.757.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-EstebanLorenzano.1304.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Monticello-EstebanLorenzano.733.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KeyChain-EstebanLorenzano.21.diff >> >> >> > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20433

by Pavel Krivanek

Well :-) then what issues because it seem that it broke Pharo Kernel 2.0 Seaside job: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%20Kernel%202.0%20Seaside/45/console -- Pavel On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > oops! > my mistake... is not that issue who is integrated > > (that happens when you just copy and paste without looking :P) > > On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Why so many dirty packages? It seems that there are more changes than only > this one issue. > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> 20433 >> ----- >> >> Issue 7062: Package extensions not present in the package >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7062 >> >> Diff information: >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Tools-EstebanLorenzano.1001.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Text-EstebanLorenzano.44.diff >> >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Support-EstebanLorenzano.757.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-EstebanLorenzano.1304.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Monticello-EstebanLorenzano.733.diff >> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KeyChain-EstebanLorenzano.21.diff >> >> >> > >

Dec. 12, 2012

[Pharo-project] pharo-2.0-tests Â» win - Build # 500 - Still Failing!

by jenkins-pharo.ci.inria.fr＠jenkins-server.lille.inria.fr

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20433

by Esteban Lorenzano

oops! my mistake... is not that issue who is integrated (that happens when you just copy and paste without looking :P) On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Why so many dirty packages? It seems that there are more changes than only this one issue. > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 20433 > ----- > > Issue 7062: Package extensions not present in the package > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7062 > > Diff information: > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Tools-EstebanLorenzano.1001.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Text-EstebanLorenzano.44.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Support-EstebanLorenzano.757.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-EstebanLorenzano.1304.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Monticello-EstebanLorenzano.733.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KeyChain-EstebanLorenzano.21.diff > > >

Dec. 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20433

by Pavel Krivanek

Why so many dirty packages? It seems that there are more changes than only this one issue. -- Pavel On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > 20433 > ----- > > Issue 7062: Package extensions not present in the package > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7062 > > Diff information: > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Tools-EstebanLorenzano.1001.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Text-EstebanLorenzano.44.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/System-Support-EstebanLorenzano.757.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-EstebanLorenzano.1304.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Monticello-EstebanLorenzano.733.diff > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KeyChain-EstebanLorenzano.21.diff > > >

Dec. 12, 2012