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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Images before 1.0

by Oscar E A CallaÃº

Thanks, Here: > you will find the oldest files here: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 I found what I want. Cheers.

Nov. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] Package-pane (or 6-paned) browser for Pharo?

by Stephen Travis Pope

Hello all, I'm just moving to pharo, and wanted to port the "package-pane browser" that I originally wrote for Smalltalk-80 and then ported to Squeak. The squeak code obviously doesn't run in pharo, and I wanted to ask whether anyone had already ported it (or something like it). Basically, the tool is just like the standard system browser, except that it parses the class category names into a 2-level hierarchy, making the top-level list much smaller and more manageable (see the screen shot below). Does this already exist? ...any reply appreciated... stp -- Stephen Travis Pope Santa Barbara, California, USA http://HeavenEverywhere.com

Nov. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20413

by Marcus Denker

20413 ----- Issue 7013: RBMethodNode should store class http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7013 Issue 7011: FixUnderscores not needed in base system http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7011 Issue 7012: Morphic code in UIManager>>#request:regex: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7012 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Regex-Core-MarcusDenker.17.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Polymorph-Widgets-MarcusDenker.731.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/AST-Core-MarcusDenker.107.diff -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Nov. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: now that squeaksource is back...

by Dale Henrichs

Frank, With the Metacello Scripting API, I have introduced just the capability you are looking for. You can specify that a particular project be associated with a particular repository location for your image and whenever that project is referenced your "local override" will be used ... I haven't released this feature yet, because I'm looking for more feedback on the API. I was hoping that I would get experience reports from Pharo2.0 users, but the Metacello Scripting API doesn't work on Pharo2.0 (lack of OSProcess support) so I have backed off on the pedal for trying to push both the Scripting API and git support into production ... If you want to take the Preview release for a spin (and aren't using Pharo2.0) let me know. Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> | To: "ma chris m" <ma.chris.m(a)gmail.com>, "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" | <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> | Cc: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:01:07 AM | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] now that squeaksource is back... | | On 6 November 2012 15:56, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: | > If SqueakSource would be made read-only even for existing projects, | > it | > could help "encourage" the transition to the new resources (ss3 and | > hub). | | I can't speak for others, but I'd personally find that quite | irritating (and I make sure I keep my ss3 repos in sync with the ss | ones). | | > But the King still needs to remain available for some time yet -- | > to | > preserve some of the diamonds in there which may not have a | > caretaker | > at this time. | | More than that: Metacello has - as I understand it at least - coupled | the notion of a project together with the source of that project. In | other words, a ConfigurationOfFoo says "get these packages from this | server". That means that unless you take care in how you write your | ConfigurationOfs your source location is a single point of failure. | | Dale, how complicated would it be to separate out the notion of | findability? In other words, to have the person _executing_ the | ConfigurationOf to say "look for packages in these locations" with | defaults set to {ss. latAm. ss3}? | | frank | | > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Esteban Lorenzano | > <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: | >> Hi, | >> | >> I strongly recommend all of you to move your projects into one of | >> the alternatives: | >> | >> http://smalltalkhub.com | >> http://ss3.gemstone.com | >> | >> the king is dead, long live the king! | >> | >> Esteban | > | |

Nov. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Beeper

by Pavel Krivanek

I wanted to be consistent with the UIManager. We have UIManager, not AbstractUIManager. We register UI managers in UIManager, not in UIRegistry. If some SoundSystem worked now, it only needs to change superclass name and register to different class. Beeper can really be deprecated. Btw. In the proposed changes I used SoundSystem current instead instead of "default" that is used in UIManager. It makes more sense to me because one image can use several sound and ui system at once (e.g. local and remote one that uses Seaside). I would like to see UIManager default to be changed to UIManager current. -- Pavel On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > The architecture involved in SoundService/AbstractSoundSystem might seem > like overkill for what is provided/used in the base image. > An external package does exist however, which provides a more capable > soundsystem when installed. > (http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoSound) > > > On 18.11.2012 09:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> firstly I do not understand why we have SoundService at all when we >>> have AbstractSoundSystem. >> >> Yes me too :) >> >>> And why it is a AppRegistry. AppRegistry >>> associates some application, tool. It is very confusing to use it for >>> a sound provider. > > More the name of AppRegistry being confusing, what it does is provide > infrastructure for registering providers of a service, and switching which > is currently in use. > In other words, SoundService (due to being an ApprRegistry) can switch > between using multiple SoundSystems. > >>> Then I do not understand why it is named >>> AbstractSoundSystem and not simply SoundSystem (remember >>> AbstractString). >> >> Yes let us clean all that :) >> Can you take the lead on that? >> We could include the sound package in the release. > > Because AbstractSoundSystem provides the common interface that is expected > to be supported by a given entry in the SoundService providers . Whether > that warrants including Abstract in the name is debatable I guess :) > >>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi pavel >>>> >>>> In fact the registration default sound system is broken and we should >>>> fix it. >>>> I forgot what is the problem :) >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to discuss the Beeper class a little bit. The main >>>>> purpose of this class is to provide Beeper beep message and use >>>>> SoundService with respect to current sound enabled settings or VM >>>>> implemented primitive for beeping. >>>> >>>> Yes this was the idea and to remove it from smalltalk. > > Outright removal is a bit harsh considering what external users may exist. > It probably deserves either being put in a deprecated package, or moved to a > loadable compat package. > > Cheers, > Henry >

Nov. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Images before 1.0

by Camillo Bruni

you will find the oldest files here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 otherwise a complete list here >= 1.0: http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/image/ On 2012-11-20, at 10:18, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There are no pre 1.0 releases AFAIK. > Have you tried Squeak 3.9 / 4.x ? Pharo is a fork from Squeak and if you're code is that old then the codebase of Squeak 3.9 is similar in most respects. yes > Cheers, > Max > > On 20.11.2012, at 14:07, Oscar E A CallaÃº <oalvarez(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I was wondering where I can find/download versions of pharo images below 1.0 ? >> >> Why I need this? Because I have a compilation of Smalltalk projects that are from Dic-2009, and I need to load/run them. >> >> Cheers. > >

Nov. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Images before 1.0

by Max Leske

There are no pre 1.0 releases AFAIK. Have you tried Squeak 3.9 / 4.x ? Pharo is a fork from Squeak and if you're code is that old then the codebase of Squeak 3.9 is similar in most respects. Cheers, Max On 20.11.2012, at 14:07, Oscar E A CallaÃº <oalvarez(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I was wondering where I can find/download versions of pharo images below 1.0 ? > > Why I need this? Because I have a compilation of Smalltalk projects that are from Dic-2009, and I need to load/run them. > > Cheers.

Nov. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Lsehub-staff] smalltalkhub

by Nicolas Petton

There's no need for that. It looks like the issue happened in april. I'm still digging :) Nico Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> writes: > what's the status? > can we switch to emergency mode? >

Nov. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] pharo-2.0-tests Â» mac - Build # 489 - Failure!

by jenkins-pharo.ci.inria.fr＠jenkins-server.lille.inria.fr

Nov. 20, 2012

[Pharo-project] pharo-2.0-tests Â» linux - Build # 489 - Failure!

by jenkins-pharo.ci.inria.fr＠jenkins-server.lille.inria.fr

Nov. 20, 2012