October 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] image format with shebang

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-10-16, at 15:08, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > I understand that it would be nice eventually to have images saved like that automatically. > > It is still a pity that the VM has to change for that ;-) > > But as far as I understood, the first 512 bytes are skipped today as well, > so if you (or any program) does a binary edit of the image header, it would work, no ? exactly :) I tried it and it works out of the box... just that the header is lost on image-save so far...

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] image format with shebang

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I understand that it would be nice eventually to have images saved like that automatically. It is still a pity that the VM has to change for that ;-) But as far as I understood, the first 512 bytes are skipped today as well, so if you (or any program) does a binary edit of the image header, it would work, no ? On 16 Oct 2012, at 14:58, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2012-10-16, at 14:49, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It is supported, see for instance: http://marc.info/?l=squeak-vm-dev&m=124049248310307&w=2 >>> awesome! strange that nobody promoted that so far... >>> well I guess yet another of these hidden treasures ;) >> >> so, how can we have all images start with that line? > > > we have to change the VM, yay! :/, to add a language side-hook: > > https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=101 > > so once I have a bit of time, I'll change the VM to always include this header. > Load support for such images exist since the early days apparently. > > I will simply add a #header argument to the #snapshot method, that way the > image can pass an arbitrary header to the VM on image save. > > best > cami

Oct. 16, 2012

[Pharo-project] Squeaksource memory

by Stephan Eggermont

I was added as developer to PackageInfo 2 weeks ago, but am no longer able to commit... Stephan

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] image format with shebang

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-10-16, at 14:49, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> It is supported, see for instance: http://marc.info/?l=squeak-vm-dev&m=124049248310307&w=2 >> awesome! strange that nobody promoted that so far... >> well I guess yet another of these hidden treasures ;) > > so, how can we have all images start with that line? we have to change the VM, yay! :/, to add a language side-hook: https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=101 so once I have a bit of time, I'll change the VM to always include this header. Load support for such images exist since the early days apparently. I will simply add a #header argument to the #snapshot method, that way the image can pass an arbitrary header to the VM on image save. best cami

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel for Squeak stupid questions

by Edgar J. De Cleene

On 10/16/12 9:06 AM, "Max Leske" <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Edgar, > > There is indeed a bug in Fuel, namely Fuel ignores the local time zone. > The reason why I didn't detect that in my image is that Squeak seems to have > some problems of its own in determining the correct time zoneÂ :) > > I'll write a fix for that. > > Cheers, > Max I remember some discuss in Squeak list about this Edgar

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] getting ready to move to beta

by Esteban Lorenzano

he, there is no chaos. there is a mail from april explaining that :) no more N.n versions one major version a year a summer and a winter (or .1 .2, if you prefer) bugfixes releases. and Stef was asking when he (and others) can start to stress the system again, so that will happen in next major (yearly) release, that's why I clarify "3" :) Esteban On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I see, there is a little chaos in the versions numbering :-) Why > the next version should be 3.0? > > -- Pavel > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 3.0 will start as soon as we release 2.0, and that will be in February 2013... I don't think is too much time to wait :) >> >> On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:16 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> >>>> I want to move pharo 2.0 to beta status in a near future (let's say monday 5 of november). >>>> >>>> What does that means? >>>> >>>> - no more changes/cleanups/removals/deprecations >>>> - no more enhancements >>>> - no more "cool integrations" >>>> - just bugfixes >>>> >>>> so... what do you think? >>>> how far are we to achieve that? >>> >>> a related question is when do we plan 2.1 and how much time we do not open 2.1 >>> >>> Stef >>>> >>>> Esteban >>> >>> >> >> >

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] image format with shebang

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> It is supported, see for instance: http://marc.info/?l=squeak-vm-dev&m=124049248310307&w=2 > awesome! strange that nobody promoted that so far... > well I guess yet another of these hidden treasures ;) so, how can we have all images start with that line? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] getting ready to move to beta

by Pavel Krivanek

As I see, there is a little chaos in the versions numbering :-) Why the next version should be 3.0? -- Pavel On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 3.0 will start as soon as we release 2.0, and that will be in February 2013... I don't think is too much time to wait :) > > On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:16 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I want to move pharo 2.0 to beta status in a near future (let's say monday 5 of november). >>> >>> What does that means? >>> >>> - no more changes/cleanups/removals/deprecations >>> - no more enhancements >>> - no more "cool integrations" >>> - just bugfixes >>> >>> so... what do you think? >>> how far are we to achieve that? >> >> a related question is when do we plan 2.1 and how much time we do not open 2.1 >> >> Stef >>> >>> Esteban >> >> > >

Oct. 16, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] getting ready to move to beta

by Esteban Lorenzano

3.0 will start as soon as we release 2.0, and that will be in February 2013... I don't think is too much time to wait :) On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:16 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I want to move pharo 2.0 to beta status in a near future (let's say monday 5 of november). >> >> What does that means? >> >> - no more changes/cleanups/removals/deprecations >> - no more enhancements >> - no more "cool integrations" >> - just bugfixes >> >> so... what do you think? >> how far are we to achieve that? > > a related question is when do we plan 2.1 and how much time we do not open 2.1 > > Stef >> >> Esteban > >

Oct. 16, 2012

[Pharo-project] fOSSa: Pharo Workshop. Call for Speakers

by Marcus Denker

Hi, There will be a small Pharo workshop at the fOSSa Open Source conference this year: http://fossa.inria.fr/en 4-5-6 December, Lille, at Euratechnologies We plan to have a small workshop with one part short presentations, plus the rest hands-on (and maybe a small sprint for fixing bugs). ==> You are very welcome to attend (there will be another call) ==> We need talks... so if someone wants to come for a short presentation, please contact me. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Oct. 16, 2012