January 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Latest changes in FS

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-01-22, at 16:14, Jimmie Houchin wrote: > On 1/22/2012 7:28 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> oh my bad... >> >> I am so used to git that I constantly forget to update and merge remote changes first... >> >> will update the config, >> thanks for the remark :) > > Hello, > > I am not used to git, so I do not understand what git does for you that Monticello/Metacello or whatever do not. I have only used it for personal projects or to clone from github. > > Is there a feature request here? Something that would improve your workflow? If so, could you describe it. You are probably not alone in your experience or desire. Hi Jimmie, Monticello: - MC automatically creates a new "branch" if you commit unmerged changes - Branches are not clearly visible in the GUI, though clearly present in the model What git does: - unmerged changes get rejected (unless forced) [svn did the same here] - clear notion of branches and versions (not based on the name of the commit) I could list some more shortcomings of MC, though as above they key issue is not the MC model but rather the GUI built around it :) best cami

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Which COG VM?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

On Linux, I've had some **possible** problems with returning swords as out parameters. There is a lot going on in that case, so it's premature to blame the vm - this is with Eliot's latest build. Eliot's build have clear problems locating libraries on Ubuntu - looking for goodness in all the wrong places... Either way, I think there should be links to both sites and a clear drive to choose and fix a leader. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Johan Brichau [johan(a)inceptive.be] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:50 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Which COG VM? I think somebody that maintains the website needs to replace the VM that is linked on the download page with the latest VM built in Jenkins. I had the same issues but when I switched to the latest built on Jenkins, I had no issues anymore. On 20 Jan 2012, at 22:31, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > On which machines are working your students? > Because on mac we do not see any problems. > BTW do you machine (windows) have tune off the virus check because this is often a cause for trouble. > > >> The latest COG VM, pointed to from the Pharo-project download page, CogVM-*-13307.zip, seems to be a little unstable. Many students have been reporting that it just hangs while doing nothing more than editing (not saving) text, and I have seen long hangs while doing trivial things â these look to me like synchronization bugs. >> >> The COG that I used about a year ago (JannâMarch 2011 timeframe), in contrast, seemed rock solid, although it might have been slower. >> >> I have two questions. First, where can I find an archive of PRE_BUILT VMs. I don't want to give my students (or myself) the task of building a VM from scratch. >> >> Second, how can I find out what version of COG I'm running? SmalltalkImage current versionLabel doesn't work. SmalltalkImage current buildDate gives me a date, but how does that relate to the version numbers that I see in on the COG web site? >> >> Thanks. I want my students to have a good starting experience with Pharo, and they are not. They are messing around trying to retrieve source from hosed images :-( > > This is really strange because we work all with Pharo like mad and we do not experience that and some of us are really doing crazy think like swapping class and their instances out of the image, or generation assembly on the fly, or changing the event loopâ¦ > > >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> > >

Jan. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] ANN: OpenGL + NativeBoost + Mac ==> success

by Igor Stasenko

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> Date: 23 January 2012 01:26 Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] ANN: OpenGL + NativeBoost + Mac ==> success To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> On 22 January 2012 15:13, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Lawson English wrote: > >> On 1/22/12 3:07 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> did you notice that you can save the image in the middle of the animation and it will continue on restart :) >> >> >> I didn't notice that. However, a there were several things I did notice: >> >> 1) you could have more than one GL Morph open at once. However, if you resized one Â GL morph window, the drawing area of the other would resize. > > Indeed :) > yeah. it looks like i don't switching current GL context when resizing, which affects currently active context. >> 2) large windows tended to leave a lot of artifacts behind during movement (the video shows this towards the end). there is two "modes" to blit on Morphic display - one is just copy directly to Display, and another is to separate form and then draw that form as usual. so, these artefact is not related to OpenGL per se, but mainly to how you make rendered results appear integrated in morphic. >> 3) creating more than one window would sometimes evoke the debugger. Proceeding eventually would create GL morph windows but they might or might not have valid contents. >> 4) saving occasionally caused errors, but the save continued anyway and restarting the image didn't show any problems. >> everything is in your hands :) >> I see an awful lot of potential for OpenGL on Squeak/Pharo. >> >> Of course, being involved iwth SiliconSqueak, I hope that we can transcend all current technologies and eventually create something truly different and better. >> >> Lawson >> -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 22 Jan 2012, at 22:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. > What would be the best way to load it ? I tried: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; load. ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault. Nautilus open gives RBClassEnvironment not found.

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 22 Jan 2012, at 20:37, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > That installs all that. Maybe the group 'Dev' is not clear enough, but it also installs shout + RB + ocompletion. Great. It loaded OK, super. And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. What would be the best way to load it ? Sven

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

> > > > > It is at the beginning of these email ;) > > > > Gofer it > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'; > > load. > > > > > > (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser > > project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests') > > Yes, I saw that. > > I meant a config (or seperate configs) for the whole shebang: shout + > completion + OB/Nautilus + RB integration for current 1.4 > > That installs all that. Maybe the group 'Dev' is not clear enough, but it also installs shout + RB + ocompletion. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 22 Jan 2012, at 20:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > > On 22 Jan 2012, at 19:17, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Yes we should publish 1.4 with shout + completion + OB/Nautilus + RB integration. > > and nothing else for now. > > Yes, can someone give the script with list of configs to load (or maybe even one MC config) ? > I would be happy to test. > > > It is at the beginning of these email ;) > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'; > load. > > > (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser > project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests') Yes, I saw that. I meant a config (or seperate configs) for the whole shebang: shout + completion + OB/Nautilus + RB integration for current 1.4 Sven

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > > On 22 Jan 2012, at 19:17, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Yes we should publish 1.4 with shout + completion + OB/Nautilus + RB > integration. > > and nothing else for now. > > Yes, can someone give the script with list of configs to load (or maybe > even one MC config) ? > I would be happy to test. > > It is at the beginning of these email ;) Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'; load. (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests'). -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 22 Jan 2012, at 19:17, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Yes we should publish 1.4 with shout + completion + OB/Nautilus + RB integration. > and nothing else for now. Yes, can someone give the script with list of configs to load (or maybe even one MC config) ? I would be happy to test. Sven

Jan. 22, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14294

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

14294 ----- - Issue 5168: TaskList switching raises exception. First Two. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5168

Jan. 22, 2012