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Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We are working on, but since I am back at the university, it's hard to > find time for huge tasks > > And since it bores me to write a lot of UIs, we started to work on Spec, > and forgot a bit Nautilus-Refactoring. > > > But since it seems Nautilus may be integrated quite soon, I will try to > put energy on that right now > > (if some of you want join and help, you are more than welcome) > > The help I can offer so far is testing and giving feedback. If that helps, ask me. Anyway, my skills in morphic sucks :) > Ben > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 16:27, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> I tried Nautilus several times. And I would love to be able to use it. > I told Ben several times that we only way I can use it is if it has RB > integeration. That's seem not easy to do and I guess Ben doesn't have > enough free time. So...if somebody wants to do something cool for the > community, this would be interesting!!! > > > > Yeah, it is a great browsers with cool features and it feels new/modern. > > But I am missing the refactoring tools as well. > > > > Sven > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Benjamin

We are working on, but since I am back at the university, it's hard to find time for huge tasks And since it bores me to write a lot of UIs, we started to work on Spec, and forgot a bit Nautilus-Refactoring. But since it seems Nautilus may be integrated quite soon, I will try to put energy on that right now (if some of you want join and help, you are more than welcome) Ben On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 16:27, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> I tried Nautilus several times. And I would love to be able to use it. I told Ben several times that we only way I can use it is if it has RB integeration. That's seem not easy to do and I guess Ben doesn't have enough free time. So...if somebody wants to do something cool for the community, this would be interesting!!! > > Yeah, it is a great browsers with cool features and it feels new/modern. > But I am missing the refactoring tools as well. > > Sven

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 16:27, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > I tried Nautilus several times. And I would love to be able to use it. I > told Ben several times that we only way I can use it is if it has RB > integeration. That's seem not easy to do and I guess Ben doesn't have > enough free time. So...if somebody wants to do something cool for the > community, this would be interesting!!! > > Yeah, it is a great browsers with cool features and it feels new/modern. > yes...it has lots of cool stuff like multiple-selection, project/workspaces, etc etc etc. But at least in my opinion, RB is a MUST if you want to have sucess. I think that any serious development usage of a browser requires RB. > But I am missing the refactoring tools as well. > > Come on Ben!!! find a student who wants to do it :) -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 23 Jan 2012, at 16:27, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > I tried Nautilus several times. And I would love to be able to use it. I told Ben several times that we only way I can use it is if it has RB integeration. That's seem not easy to do and I guess Ben doesn't have enough free time. So...if somebody wants to do something cool for the community, this would be interesting!!! Yeah, it is a great browsers with cool features and it feels new/modern. But I am missing the refactoring tools as well. Sven

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I tried Nautilus several times. And I would love to be able to use it. I told Ben several times that we only way I can use it is if it has RB integeration. That's seem not easy to do and I guess Ben doesn't have enough free time. So...if somebody wants to do something cool for the community, this would be interesting!!! On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Ben, > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 09:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 00:54, Benjamin wrote: > > > >> Strange, I just tested with the latest 1.4 Pharo (14294) and it works > ... > >> > >> But if you want, there is a Jenkins build for Nautilus ( > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Nautilus/) > > > > This was in a 14293 image, but not a clean one, it had the > > > > (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser > > project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests'). > > > > loaded first. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. > > > > > >> Enjoy, > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On 22 Jan 2012, at 22:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >>> > >>>> And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. > >>>> What would be the best way to load it ? > >>> > >>> I tried: > >>> > >>> Gofer new > >>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; > >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; > >>> load. > >>> > >>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault. > >>> > >>> Nautilus open > >>> > >>> gives RBClassEnvironment not found > > > I just tried again: yes, in a clean image Nautilus loads and works without > any problems. > > But doing it in a up to date image with latest OB loaded, it fails. > > Output on the Transcript seems identical. > > Any, great browser: it is good to see something new ! > > Sven > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Benjamin

On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:00 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Benjamin wrote: > >> It's because Nautilus loads a specific version of an RBpackage, and OB another one. > > I do not see why OB wold load RPackage? RBPackage, for the refactoring engine Ben > >> >> I presume that the configuration presume the requirements are satisfied and do not load the specific package :) >> >> >> Thank, you. >> >> Ben >> >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> Ben, >>> >>> On 23 Jan 2012, at 09:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> On 23 Jan 2012, at 00:54, Benjamin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Strange, I just tested with the latest 1.4 Pharo (14294) and it works ... >>>>> >>>>> But if you want, there is a Jenkins build for Nautilus (https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Nautilus/) >>>> >>>> This was in a 14293 image, but not a clean one, it had the >>>> >>>> (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser >>>> project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests'). >>>> >>>> loaded first. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Enjoy, >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Jan 2012, at 22:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. >>>>>>> What would be the best way to load it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried: >>>>>> >>>>>> Gofer new >>>>>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; >>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>>>>> load. >>>>>> >>>>>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nautilus open >>>>>> >>>>>> gives RBClassEnvironment not found >>> >>> >>> I just tried again: yes, in a clean image Nautilus loads and works without any problems. >>> >>> But doing it in a up to date image with latest OB loaded, it fails. >>> >>> Output on the Transcript seems identical. >>> >>> Any, great browser: it is good to see something new ! >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Benjamin wrote: > It's because Nautilus loads a specific version of an RBpackage, and OB another one. I do not see why OB wold load RPackage? > > I presume that the configuration presume the requirements are satisfied and do not load the specific package :) > > > Thank, you. > > Ben > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> Ben, >> >> On 23 Jan 2012, at 09:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> On 23 Jan 2012, at 00:54, Benjamin wrote: >>> >>>> Strange, I just tested with the latest 1.4 Pharo (14294) and it works ... >>>> >>>> But if you want, there is a Jenkins build for Nautilus (https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Nautilus/) >>> >>> This was in a 14293 image, but not a clean one, it had the >>> >>> (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser >>> project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests'). >>> >>> loaded first. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. >>> >>> >>>> Enjoy, >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22 Jan 2012, at 22:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. >>>>>> What would be the best way to load it ? >>>>> >>>>> I tried: >>>>> >>>>> Gofer new >>>>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; >>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>>>> load. >>>>> >>>>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault. >>>>> >>>>> Nautilus open >>>>> >>>>> gives RBClassEnvironment not found >> >> >> I just tried again: yes, in a clean image Nautilus loads and works without any problems. >> >> But doing it in a up to date image with latest OB loaded, it fails. >> >> Output on the Transcript seems identical. >> >> Any, great browser: it is good to see something new ! >> >> Sven >> >> >> > >

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Rethinking the event's handling in Gaucho/Morphic

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> > > I've looked at the EventModel, quite nice design. > > I will adapt the design proposed above to it, the only difference is > that GUserInterface , GMouse and GKeyboard will process a > SystemInputEvent instead of a raw event buffer encoded in an Array. > Which will ease and standardize the dispatching amongst the > peripherals. I'm really curious to see your state model in action :) Stef

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] experiment with UbiquiTalk

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi Estaban, On 20 janv. 2012, at 19:20, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi Noury, > > I have some free time (not much) before moving to Lille, and I wanted to experiment a bit with UbiquiTalk... > Cool. > I installed all in a Pharo 1.3 image, but now I don't know where to start... As I see, there is an example there, but I don't know how it is supposed to work... > Can you guide me on where to look? > There's some documentation available is online. It's old, though I believe it should be okay. http://vst.mines-douai.fr/UbiquiTalk In squeak, there were a GUI that was working. The main entry point for it is: UTHostMainGUI. Otherwise, from the model side, the main entry point is UTHost that refers to the current image. It holds multiple services. Each service has server-side and client-side code. Once a client connects to a server (discovery based on IGMP), it gets the list of services. A client can launch a service and get the client-side code of it installed on the fly. The last one who experimented with UbiquiTalk was Sean. He could load it on Pharo, though I don't remember how far he went. Hope it helps, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://www.kroobe.com/profile/noury Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer ce courriel qu'en cas de necessite Please consider the environment before you print

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Ann: OmniBrowser stable for 1.4 with RB

by Benjamin

It's because Nautilus loads a specific version of an RBpackage, and OB another one. I presume that the configuration presume the requirements are satisfied and do not load the specific package :) Thank, you. Ben On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Ben, > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 09:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 23 Jan 2012, at 00:54, Benjamin wrote: >> >>> Strange, I just tested with the latest 1.4 Pharo (14294) and it works ... >>> >>> But if you want, there is a Jenkins build for Nautilus (https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Nautilus/) >> >> This was in a 14293 image, but not a clean one, it had the >> >> (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser >> project version: #stable) load: #( 'Dev' 'Dev Tests'). >> >> loaded first. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. >> >> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 22 Jan 2012, at 22:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>>> And what about Nautilus, I want to try that too. >>>>> What would be the best way to load it ? >>>> >>>> I tried: >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> ConfigurationOfNautilus loadDefault. >>>> >>>> Nautilus open >>>> >>>> gives RBClassEnvironment not found > > > I just tried again: yes, in a clean image Nautilus loads and works without any problems. > > But doing it in a up to date image with latest OB loaded, it fails. > > Output on the Transcript seems identical. > > Any, great browser: it is good to see something new ! > > Sven > > >

Jan. 23, 2012