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Re: [Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I know the difference between blessed and bleeding edge this is not the problem My problems are what are the implications: changes within a month? what are the points that got fixed? So that I can evaluate which one I should use and control my stress. Stef > When you load something with Metacello, what do you want? bleedingEdge or stable? ;) > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > on jenkins > > Stef > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Shortcut from code pane to methods?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sure that can be done in OB. You just need to define 2 command classes > that are bound to the appropriate keys. > > OK, thanks. > Lukas > > On 12 September 2011 11:05, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi guys. I find myself lots of time in the code pane, whising to move up > or > > down to another method of the same clase. Most of the times I am coding, > > that is, using the 2 hands in the keyboard. Then when I want to move to > > another method, I would like to avoid taking the moose, go to the list of > > methods, click of the one I want or click there and then user upper and > > lower case. > > So.....I would love to have a conbination of keys that using upper and > lower > > case let me do that from the code pane. Say cmd + shift + up and cmd + > shift > > + down. Is that possible? Can I do that in OB/Nautilus? Do I need key > > bindings? > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Shortcut from code pane to methods?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillo.bruni(a)inria.fr>wrote: > It is partly working now (with a little overhead) > > what do you mean with "now" ? where ? which browser? how can I make it work in my images ? > shift + tab moves to the top panel and focuses on the method list > arrow keys work as usual there > tab move the focus to the code panel > :) > cami > > On 2011-09-12, at 11:21, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > Sure that can be done in OB. You just need to define 2 command classes > > that are bound to the appropriate keys. > > > > Lukas > > > > On 12 September 2011 11:05, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi guys. I find myself lots of time in the code pane, whising to move up > or > >> down to another method of the same clase. Most of the times I am > coding, > >> that is, using the 2 hands in the keyboard. Then when I want to move to > >> another method, I would like to avoid taking the moose, go to the list > of > >> methods, click of the one I want or click there and then user upper and > >> lower case. > >> So.....I would love to have a conbination of keys that using upper and > lower > >> case let me do that from the code pane. Say cmd + shift + up and cmd + > shift > >> + down. Is that possible? Can I do that in OB/Nautilus? Do I need key > >> bindings? > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> -- > >> Mariano > >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Zinc HTTPS

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

GÃ¶ran, On 13 Sep 2011, at 09:38, GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: > Hi! > > On 09/12/2011 12:35 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> The problem is that the new SocketStream implementation worked fine for me during development (on Mac), but later I found out that there are subtle but critical problems on the other platforms. > > Just a few words about the SocketStream implementation. I wrote the current incarnation of SocketStream (unless it has changed under Pharo - haven't looked) and one important aspect of the rewrite was to make it much faster than the old code written originally by Bolot Kerimbaev back in... ancient times. > > Basically two things make it fast: > - As little copying as possible. > - Making sure code lands on good primitives. > > An example of the former is the logic involved in dealing with the buffer growing etc. > > An example of the latter is upToAll: that could be written naively and end up using next, next for each byte. Ouch. > > Anyway, there are indeed some methods in SocketStream that "hurts the eyes", like upToAll: but that is mainly because we are lacking a primitive for searching that has a "stopAt" argument. I never got around to extending the one we have with such an argument. > > regards, GÃ¶ran I respect the current SocketStream: it is used by all of us everyday and it works reliably. The problem is that its code base has grown in all kinds of directions and in complexity. Today it is pretty hard to understand since it is not clear if all code that is there is relevant. Also, subclassing it to build a secure socket stream is pretty difficult. The Zodiac streams are an experiment in rewriting [secure] socket stream. I would be honored if you would take some time to look at the code and give some feedback http://www.squeaksource.com/Zodiac >From one of my previous mails: Warning: this is of course not yet code for general consumption, use the source and the comments. This is a proof of concept. This package has no further dependencies and does not add anything to system classes, it is thus safe to load. There are four stream classes, ZdcAbstractSocketStream, ZdcSimpleSocketStream, ZdcOptimizedSocketStream and ZdcSocketStream, inheriting from each other, adding successively more optimized implementations of the standard Smalltalk stream primitives, especially for bulk IO. There is one helper class, ZdcIOBuffer to help in managing read and write buffers inside the streams. The interface towards Socket is also quite small (i.e. only a very small amount of the functionality in Socket is used). The 48 units tests as well as the functional test (see further) are all green on Pharo 1.2.x and 1.3 as well as on Squeak 4.2. The functional test is the following: Zinc HTTP Components recently got a its ZnNetworkingUtils class turned into a socket stream factory. By loading the new package Zinc-Zodiac from the ZincHTTPComponents repository, you can ask Zn to use the new socket stream implementation, like this: ZnNetworkingUtils default: ZnZodiacNetworkingUtils new. To reset, just do: ZnNetworkingUtils default: nil. The cool thing is: all of Zn's +170 unit tests, most doing actual HTTP client and server interactions (some over the internet) succeed using the new Zodiac socket stream implementation. Regards, Sven

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by Luc Fabresse

2011/9/13 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > > > > > Perhaps we should have two tabs on jenkins: > > - VM blessed (stable) > > - VM bleeding (unstable) > > > and than remove the blessed and bleeding terms (they just confuse and are > very strange if you translate them to your native language...). > +1 Luc > > > > #Luc > > > > > > > > 2011/9/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > When you load something with Metacello, what do you want? bleedingEdge or > stable? ;) > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > on jenkins > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > >

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > > Perhaps we should have two tabs on jenkins: > - VM blessed (stable) > - VM bleeding (unstable) > and than remove the blessed and bleeding terms (they just confuse and are very strange if you translate them to your native language...). > #Luc > > > > 2011/9/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > When you load something with Metacello, what do you want? bleedingEdge or stable? ;) > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > on jenkins > > Stef > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by Luc Fabresse

Perhaps we should have two tabs on jenkins: - VM blessed (stable) - VM bleeding (unstable) #Luc 2011/9/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > When you load something with Metacello, what do you want? bleedingEdge or > stable? ;) > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> on jenkins >> >> Stef >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

When you load something with Metacello, what do you want? bleedingEdge or stable? ;) On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > on jenkins > > Stef > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 13, 2011

[Pharo-project] where is the latest stackVM?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

on jenkins. Stef

Sept. 13, 2011

[Pharo-project] should I use cocoa-blessed or cocoa?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

on jenkins Stef

Sept. 13, 2011