September 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get smart characters in Pharo 1.4?

by Camillo Bruni

On 2011-09-19, at 21:32, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillo.bruni(a)inria.fr> wrote: > so that's an issue with the keyboard input not pharo directly > > see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3748 > > and try to figure out what keyboard events you get in for > > meta + " > > [keystroke '<Cmd-2>'] > > timeStamp: 40653 > source: a HandMorph(843055104) > windowIndex: nil > type: #keystroke > buttons: 64 > position: 140@32 > handler: nil > wasHandled: true > keyValue: 50 > charCode: 50 > scanCode: 19 > > > > meta + shift + " > > > [keystroke '<Cmd-2>'] > > timeStamp: 108637 > source: a HandMorph(843055104) > windowIndex: nil > type: #keystroke > buttons: 72 > position: 42@8 > handler: nil > wasHandled: true > keyValue: 50 > charCode: 50 > scanCode: 19 > > > ctrl + " > > Nothing > > ctrl + shift + " > > > nothing > > alt + " > > $@ > > alt + shift + " > > > $? > > cause I am sure that they are rather randomly distributed around some sane average... > > > > :( > > Layout: ISO Spanish on a MAC OS 10.6.8 hmm so the easiest solution for now is to switch to US layout :/ (who uses ISO Spanish for programming anyway :P) otherwise see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4599 cami

Sept. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] compare frameworks

by Sebastian Sastre

Hi guys, only seasiders have shown their voice here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4637828/what-are-the-main-differences-be… Iliaders... Aidaers... c'mon guys people is asking... show them! broader views never hurts anyway sebastian o/

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Tudor Girba

+1 Doru On 19 Sep 2011, at 21:43, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Good job! > > Stef > > On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I did the following: >> >> 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip >> >> The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 >> >> 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >> >> - one one-click is referenced >> - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced >> - The VMs are referenced and only those. >> >> We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't >> need to mention it. >> >> Better? >> >> Marcus >> >> >> On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: >>> >>>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >>>> >>>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >>>> >>>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >>>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >>>> >>>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >>>> (at least the blessed ones) >>>> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Good job! Stef On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > I did the following: > > 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip > > The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 > > 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > - one one-click is referenced > - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced > - The VMs are referenced and only those. > > We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't > need to mention it. > > Better? > > Marcus > > > On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: >> >>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >>> >>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >>> >>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >>> >>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >>> (at least the blessed ones) >>> > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get smart characters in Pharo 1.4?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillo.bruni(a)inria.fr>wrote: > so that's an issue with the keyboard input not pharo directly > > see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3748 > > and try to figure out what keyboard events you get in for > > meta + " > [keystroke '<Cmd-2>'] timeStamp: 40653 source: a HandMorph(843055104) windowIndex: nil type: #keystroke buttons: 64 position: 140@32 handler: nil wasHandled: true keyValue: 50 charCode: 50 scanCode: 19 > meta + shift + " > > [keystroke '<Cmd-2>'] timeStamp: 108637 source: a HandMorph(843055104) windowIndex: nil type: #keystroke buttons: 72 position: 42@8 handler: nil wasHandled: true keyValue: 50 charCode: 50 scanCode: 19 > ctrl + " > Nothing > ctrl + shift + " > > nothing > alt + " > $@ > alt + shift + " > > $? > cause I am sure that they are rather randomly distributed around some sane > average... > > :( Layout: ISO Spanish on a MAC OS 10.6.8 > On 2011-09-16, at 12:54, Alexis Parseghian wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It does *not* work for me either. My setup is Pharo #14140, on Ubuntu > >> Linux 32bits with a US International keyboard layout. > > > > Not working here either. Image updated to #14140 as well, debian > > testing 64-bit, canadian-french keyboard. > > > > CogVM -version > > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Aug 31 14:50:51 CEST 2011 gcc 4.1.2 > > Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-IgorStasenko.123] > > > > Works fine in Pharo 1.3 #13295, everything else being identical. > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Page for Blogs on pharo-project.org

by Luc Fabresse

2011/9/19 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > > http://www.pharo-project.org/community/blogs > > More links can be added... > great! Luc > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > >

Sept. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] Page for Blogs on pharo-project.org

by Marcus Denker

http://www.pharo-project.org/community/blogs More links can be added... -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Interesting expression...

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > displayScannerFor: para foreground: foreColor background: backColor > ignoreColorChanges: shadowMode > "Fixed to answer a MultiDisplayScanner when the paragraph is any kind of > MultiNewParagraph (rather than an instance of the one class) or the paragraph > text string is a WideString." > > ((para isKindOf: MultiNewParagraph) or: [para text string isByteString > or: [para text string isWideString]]) > > > > this one is quite interesting, for what kind of strings in pharo a > given expression yields false? > > string isByteString or: [ string isWideString] > > ? > > > i think this code could be rewritten to > > true ifTrue: [ > ... > > ]. In wise pre-cognition, this was fixed in 1.4 last weekend :-) -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] Interesting expression...

by Igor Stasenko

displayScannerFor: para foreground: foreColor background: backColor ignoreColorChanges: shadowMode "Fixed to answer a MultiDisplayScanner when the paragraph is any kind of MultiNewParagraph (rather than an instance of the one class) or the paragraph text string is a WideString." ((para isKindOf: MultiNewParagraph) or: [para text string isByteString or: [para text string isWideString]]) this one is quite interesting, for what kind of strings in pharo a given expression yields false? string isByteString or: [ string isWideString] ? i think this code could be rewritten to true ifTrue: [ ... ]. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Clara Allende

(+1) On 19 September 2011 10:30, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > > Looks nice > > > > should we maybe mark the 1.4 as beta? > > > Yes! > > Even in the side tab it should not read 'Release 1.4' but "beta 1.4" (or > alpha? development?) > > > > On 2011-09-19, at 15:15, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I did the following: > >> > >> 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. > >> > >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip > >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip > >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip > >> > >> The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use > that VM with 1.3 > >> > >> 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > >> > >> - one one-click is referenced > >> - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced > >> - The VMs are referenced and only those. > >> > >> We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image > zips, so we don't > >> need to mention it. > >> > >> Better? > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > >>> > >>>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the > website is not very clear about the best way to get one. > >>>> > >>>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server > (or is it still used?) > >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > >>>> > >>>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to > http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ > >>>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. > >>>> > >>>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? > >>>> (at least the blessed ones) > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > >

Sept. 19, 2011