September 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Gary Chambers

Indeed, Igor. Curious what events we get from a horizontal wheel... possibly platform dependent too. (could possibly test when in office with a mouse that has left-right wheel clickers) Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel Historically, VMs are not generating mouse wheel events, instead they interpreting OS events and generating ctrl-up/ctrl-down key events. To instroduce horizontal wheel , a changes to VM is needed. On 2 September 2011 16:39, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > We need a VM expert... > I am sure there is a good soul on the mailing list. > > Alexandre > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 10:31, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> I can add the support if you can work out what the VM sends as key/char >> codes... ;-) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" >> <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:06 PM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel >> >> >>> hi! >>> >>> Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll >>> over a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It >>> would be very cool to have it... >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 September 2011 16:52, Johannes Rasche <johannesrasche(a)mac.com> wrote: > for at least MAC OS it seems to be very cool :) > to support the trackpads > I cannot imagine that other platforms don't make use of trackpads > yes a good soul is wanted > Am 02.09.2011 um 15:45 schrieb Igor Stasenko: > Well, cocoa vms are handling horizontal wheel events: ===== - (void) recordWheelEvent:(NSEvent *) theEvent fromView: (sqSqueakOSXNSView *) aView{ [self recordMouseEvent: theEvent fromView: aView]; CGFloat x = [theEvent deltaX]; CGFloat y = [theEvent deltaY]; if (x != 0.0f) { [self fakeMouseWheelKeyboardEventsKeyCode: (x < 0 ? 124 : 123) ascii: (x < 0 ? 29 : 28) windowIndex: (int) aView.windowLogic.windowIndex]; } if (y != 0.0f) { [self fakeMouseWheelKeyboardEventsKeyCode: (y < 0 ? 125 : 126) ascii: (y < 0 ? 31 : 30) windowIndex: (int) aView.windowLogic.windowIndex]; } } ===== so, a key code is 125 or 126 and char code 31 or 30. it remains to figure out, if image actually handling those. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Johannes Rasche

for at least MAC OS it seems to be very cool :) to support the trackpads I cannot imagine that other platforms don't make use of trackpads yes a good soul is wanted Am 02.09.2011 um 15:45 schrieb Igor Stasenko: > Historically, VMs are not generating mouse wheel events, > instead they interpreting OS events and generating ctrl-up/ctrl-down key events. > > To instroduce horizontal wheel , a changes to VM is needed. > > On 2 September 2011 16:39, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> We need a VM expert... >> I am sure there is a good soul on the mailing list. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 10:31, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> I can add the support if you can work out what the VM sends as key/char codes... ;-) >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>> To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:06 PM >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel >>> >>> >>>> hi! >>>> >>>> Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll over a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It would be very cool to have it... >>>> >>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Igor Stasenko

Historically, VMs are not generating mouse wheel events, instead they interpreting OS events and generating ctrl-up/ctrl-down key events. To instroduce horizontal wheel , a changes to VM is needed. On 2 September 2011 16:39, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > We need a VM expert... > I am sure there is a good soul on the mailing list. > > Alexandre > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 10:31, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> I can add the support if you can work out what the VM sends as key/char codes... ;-) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:06 PM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel >> >> >>> hi! >>> >>> Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll over a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It would be very cool to have it... >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Alexandre Bergel

We need a VM expert... I am sure there is a good soul on the mailing list. Alexandre On 2 Sep 2011, at 10:31, Gary Chambers wrote: > I can add the support if you can work out what the VM sends as key/char codes... ;-) > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:06 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel > > >> hi! >> >> Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll over a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It would be very cool to have it... >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Zinc crashing image at start up

by Igor Stasenko

Looks like it tries to destroy socket which were left from previous session, and of course fails because in newly started image the socket handle invalid. On 2 September 2011 14:26, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I have now had two images rendered unusable because Zinc crashes them at >> start up. Debug log attached. > > +1, I had a similar problem at some point from an image built on Jenkins. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Gary Chambers

I can add the support if you can work out what the VM sends as key/char codes... ;-) Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:06 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel > hi! > > Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll over > a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It would be > very cool to have it... > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

Sept. 2, 2011

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Smalltalks 2011: Call for Submission/Participacion

by Mariano Martinez Peck

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: gabriela arevalo <gabriela.arevalo(a)fast.org.ar> Date: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:36 PM Subject: Smalltalks 2011: Call for Submission/Participacion To: Sorry for multiple copies Following you have the Spanish version of the Smalltalks 2011 Call for Submission/Participation ======== ENGLISH The FundaciÃ³n Argentina de Smalltalk (FAST, http://www.fast.org.ar) invites you to the 5th Argentine Smalltalk Conference, to be held on November 3, 4 and 5, 2011 at the Quilmes University located in Buenos Aires. Everyone, including teachers, students, researchers, developers and entrepreneurs, are welcome as speakers or attendees. Registration is free and now open at http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011 The goal of the Conference is to strengthen the bonds between the Argentine and the international Smalltalk community through the exchange of works, experiences and anecdotes connected with this technology and related matters. As in the previous editions, renowned members of the international Smalltalk community will visit us, and like last year we will have a Research Session with publications reviewed by an international committee. Also, the traditional Industry Track will be available for those who prefer a more practical environment. You can submit papers or talks now through our website at http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011/technical-session Finally, a Pharo Sprint will be held prior to the conference for those willing to help the community coding, and two seminars will take place for those who want to get acquainted with or learn more about Smalltalk. For more information go to http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011/events For any questions please contact us at info(a)fast.org.ar. See you there! ==== SPANISH La FundaciÃ³n Argentina de Smalltalk (FAST, http://www.fast.org.ar) los invita a la 5ta Conferencia de Smalltalk de Argentina, a realizarse desde el 3 al 5 de Noviembre del 2011 en la sede de la Universidad de Quilmes, Buenos Aires. Esperamos verlos a todos entre la audiencia o como oradores, ya sean profesores, estudiantes, investigadores, desarrolladores o empresarios. La registraciÃ³n es gratis y estÃ¡ disponible en http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011 El objetivo de la conferencia es afianzar los vÃnculos entre las comunidades Smalltalk de Argentina y del mundo y con todo desarrollador, educador o investigador que utilice el paradigma de Objetos. Esto lo lograremos a travÃ©s del intercambio de trabajos, experiencias y vivencias conectadas con esta tecnologÃa. Nuevamente en esta ediciÃ³n nos visitarÃ¡n personalidades de renombre de la comunidad internacional y contaremos con un track de investigaciÃ³n formal con publicaciones y referato de un comitÃ© internacional. Contaremos tambiÃ©n con el tradicional track de industria para aquellos que prefieran un ambiente mÃ¡s prÃ¡ctico. Pueden suscribir sus propuestas de charlas o papers mediante nuestra pÃ¡gina web en http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011/technical-session Por Ãºltimo, se realizarÃ¡ un Pharo Sprint para todos aquellos que tengan interÃ©s de aportar concretamente con cÃ³digo a la comunidad y se dictarÃ¡n dos seminarios para aquellos que quieran entender y conocer mÃ¡s Smalltalk. Para mÃ¡s informaciÃ³n ir a http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2011/events Cualquier duda no dejen de consultarla enviando un mail a info(a)fast.org.ar Nos vemos en la conferencia! -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 78 - RBSubclassResponsibilityNotDefinedRule

by Angel Nunez

On Sep 2, 2011, at 2:57 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > could be interesting. But it would just hides our poor comment > quality. > I prefer to see that I'm poor than pretend I'm rich :) > > For the RBRule what would be great (and this was on my overly long > todo) was a improve the description. > May be we should have a short and long one. Because something I do > not understand (well I do most of the times) but > I would love to get a nice description because we really want to > push the rules usage. > > We got a postdoc with chili (yesterday - hello and welcome > angel :) ) and we want him to help building better infrastructure > around rules > - book chapter on rule engine > - storing metadata because it does not scale to add pragmas in > method (we probably need a package manifesto). > - analyzing the rules and their application to pharo and pharo > projects > - get rules automatically run with jenkins > Hello everybody, nice to join this community. It will be a pleasure to help with this. -- Angel > On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:27 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> Today: RBSubclassResponsibilityNotDefinedRule >>> >>> This rules identifies when several methods in a set of subclasses >>> are defined but not in the superclass. >>> It identifies that an abstract method is missing in the superclass. >> >> Checks that all subclassResponsibility methods are defined in all >> leaf classes. >> >> Note that each of the 120 subclasses of RBLintRule has a method >> called >> #rationale that describes its intent. There are even tests that >> verify >> this. Of course the string is not a class comment, but something to >> be >> displayed in the code critics browser. Still I note a certain degree >> of overlap ... >> >> >> I wonder, we may just comment RBLintRule. Then wouldn't it be nice >> that class browser, when displaying a class without comment, goes >> up in the hierarchy up to Object (excluded) to get the first >> comment found ? >> >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> >

Sept. 2, 2011

[Pharo-project] Horizontal wheel

by Alexandre Bergel

hi! Pharo supports the vertical wheel. I can use my moose wheel to scroll over a list. However, the horizontal wheel does not seem supported. It would be very cool to have it... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4752 Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 2, 2011