August 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk tools transcript

by Igor Stasenko

On 19 August 2011 14:13, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 19 August 2011 11:41, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Igor changed some uses of "Transcript" to "Smalltalk tools >>> transcript". Of course it is not bad idea however it has some >>> unwelcome consequences - mainly it cannot work on images that have no >>> tools and Pharo Kernel and most of derived images have no ToolRegistry >>> at all. Currently it breaks Pharo Kernel job on CI server. >>> >>> Here are affected methods: >>> >>> Object>>crLog: {logging} >>> Object>>log: {logging} >>> Object>>logCr: {logging} >>> Object>>logCrTab: {logging} >>> >>> Of course the simplest way how to fix that is revert previous versions >>> of this methods. However we may use some more general solution where >>> ToolRegistry will be part of the kernel but then we will have to solve >>> questions what tools are default, what to do if the tool class is >>> missing etc. >>> >> >> Is 'Smalltalk' global name part of kernel? >> If so, then i think SmalltalkImage should be too and ToolRegistry. >> >> Tool registry is just a registry. It doesn't imposing the existance of >> one or another tool. >> If tool with given name is missing, then attempt to use it will lead for error. >> > > The question why to have registry for something what is not necessary. > Some applications may Â want to remove tools from the image so to place > tools support to the kernel is a regression. The only tool that is > required for the Kernel now is Transcript for some Compiler messages > etc. I think that there is one much better solution - to remove > Transcript dependency from the kernel and for such messages to use > UIManager (something like #log: or maybe better #logStream). > MorphicUIManager then will use Transcript. > There is SmalltalkImage>>logDuring: aMonadicBlock except that it logs to file, not to transcript. > -- Pavel -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk tools transcript

by Pavel Krivanek

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 19 August 2011 11:41, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Igor changed some uses of "Transcript" to "Smalltalk tools >> transcript". Of course it is not bad idea however it has some >> unwelcome consequences - mainly it cannot work on images that have no >> tools and Pharo Kernel and most of derived images have no ToolRegistry >> at all. Currently it breaks Pharo Kernel job on CI server. >> >> Here are affected methods: >> >> Object>>crLog: {logging} >> Object>>log: {logging} >> Object>>logCr: {logging} >> Object>>logCrTab: {logging} >> >> Of course the simplest way how to fix that is revert previous versions >> of this methods. However we may use some more general solution where >> ToolRegistry will be part of the kernel but then we will have to solve >> questions what tools are default, what to do if the tool class is >> missing etc. >> > > Is 'Smalltalk' global name part of kernel? > If so, then i think SmalltalkImage should be too and ToolRegistry. > > Tool registry is just a registry. It doesn't imposing the existance of > one or another tool. > If tool with given name is missing, then attempt to use it will lead for error. > The question why to have registry for something what is not necessary. Some applications may want to remove tools from the image so to place tools support to the kernel is a regression. The only tool that is required for the Kernel now is Transcript for some Compiler messages etc. I think that there is one much better solution - to remove Transcript dependency from the kernel and for such messages to use UIManager (something like #log: or maybe better #logStream). MorphicUIManager then will use Transcript. -- Pavel

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk tools transcript

by Igor Stasenko

On 19 August 2011 11:41, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Igor changed some uses of "Transcript" to "Smalltalk tools > transcript". Of course it is not bad idea however it has some > unwelcome consequences - mainly it cannot work on images that have no > tools and Pharo Kernel and most of derived images have no ToolRegistry > at all. Currently it breaks Pharo Kernel job on CI server. > > Here are affected methods: > > Object>>crLog: {logging} > Object>>log: {logging} > Object>>logCr: {logging} > Object>>logCrTab: {logging} > > Of course the simplest way how to fix that is revert previous versions > of this methods. However we may use some more general solution where > ToolRegistry will be part of the kernel but then we will have to solve > questions what tools are default, what to do if the tool class is > missing etc. > Is 'Smalltalk' global name part of kernel? If so, then i think SmalltalkImage should be too and ToolRegistry. Tool registry is just a registry. It doesn't imposing the existance of one or another tool. If tool with given name is missing, then attempt to use it will lead for error. > -- Pavel -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Aug. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] loading nautilus in a 1.4?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I get this error: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This package depends on the following classes: ClassEnvironment BrowserEnvironment You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: BrowserEnvironment>>packageOrganizer BrowserEnvironment>>packages ClassEnvironment>>packages Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Fuel release version 1.6

by Craig Latta

Congratulations! -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 3547

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Logo and icon design (was: [ANN] Fuel release version 1.6)

by Alexandre Bergel

Really cool logo! Alexandre On 19 Aug 2011, at 10:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote on Pharo mailinglist > >Ahh and thanks to Claire Barroca we now have a wonderful logo: > >http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel > > Awesome! Thanks!!! If I remember correctly she also created > the skin for pharocasts and Marea: > > > Yes. Both. I love the one she did for me in Marea: > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Marea > > She also did the Pharo theme. > > http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/learn-smalltalk-with-profstef.html > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Marea/GhostProxies > > Really nice and clean design! > > Mmmhhh ... Pharo still needs: > - a better icon set (than the toyish squeak icons) to look > more professional > - a nice splash screen > - better design templates for articles, books, refcards, powered by, ... > Currently we only have > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/media-files > I would like to see more templates (SVG, ...) one can use > to mix it for own designs, webpages, ... > - ... > > > +1 > > Maybe she can help us here? > > > I don't know, maybe. I don't know how much free time she has but we can ask. > > > Thx > T. > > > > > > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14098

by Marcus Denker

14098 ----- Issue 4655: Additional Socket woes http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4655 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Aug. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14097

by Marcus Denker

14097 ----- Issue 4635: Two failing tests in FS http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4635 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Aug. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Logo and icon design (was: [ANN] Fuel release version 1.6)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote on Pharo mailinglist > >Ahh and thanks to Claire Barroca we now have a wonderful logo: > >http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel > > Awesome! Thanks!!! If I remember correctly she also created > the skin for pharocasts and Marea: > > Yes. Both. I love the one she did for me in Marea: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Marea She also did the Pharo theme. > http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/learn-smalltalk-with-profstef.html > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Marea/GhostProxies > > Really nice and clean design! > > Mmmhhh ... Pharo still needs: > - a better icon set (than the toyish squeak icons) to look > more professional > - a nice splash screen > - better design templates for articles, books, refcards, powered by, ... > Currently we only have > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/media-files > I would like to see more templates (SVG, ...) one can use > to mix it for own designs, webpages, ... > - ... > > +1 > Maybe she can help us here? > > I don't know, maybe. I don't know how much free time she has but we can ask. > Thx > T. > > > > > > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Aug. 19, 2011

[Pharo-project] Logo and icon design (was: [ANN] Fuel release version 1.6)

by Torsten Bergmann

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote on Pharo mailinglist >Ahh and thanks to Claire Barroca we now have a wonderful logo: >http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel Awesome! Thanks!!! If I remember correctly she also created the skin for pharocasts and Marea: http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/learn-smalltalk-with-profstef.html http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Marea/GhostProxies Really nice and clean design! Mmmhhh ... Pharo still needs: - a better icon set (than the toyish squeak icons) to look more professional - a nice splash screen - better design templates for articles, books, refcards, powered by, ... Currently we only have http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/media-files I would like to see more templates (SVG, ...) one can use to mix it for own designs, webpages, ... - ... Maybe she can help us here? Thx T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

Aug. 19, 2011