August 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Gofer problem

by Lukas Renggli

On 27 August 2011 18:53, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Okay, we found Gofer>>package:constraint: which can be used like: > > Â aGofer package: 'Magritte-Seaside' constraint: [ :version | version branch > = 'trial' ]. > > This does not seem obvious. Would it be beneficial to be able to say what I > tried originally i.e. package: Â 'DeNigrisSetup-Platform.pharo'? No, because 'DeNigrisSetup-Platform.pharo' is not a package name, but a package name and a branch name. Earlier versions of Gofer also supported prefix matches, but it was removed it early on because it is very fragile. If you really needed it, you could easily add your own GoferReference subclass. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OpenDBXDriver Release - DBXTalk Release Step 1

by Guillermo Polito

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Alain Rastoul <alr.dev(a)free.fr> wrote: > ** > Super ! > > Did you handle the sqlite null problem? (just curious) > Not yet, but it's on our roadmap > I made some changes for that on squeakdbx and was waiting for it to check. > squeaksource seems to be down right now but i'll retry install. > > Cheers > Alain > > > "Guillermo Polito" <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit dans le message de > news:CAOBmb51Z5GgVxTWP37kF-kmvVRpOLC_WsgLtXaXjwLaKtBqviA@mail.gmail.com... > Hi folks!! > > We are proud to make our first release of OpenDBXDriver -1.0 version-, > formerly known as SqueakDBX. Now the project involves much more than just a > database driver. This whole new project is called DBXTalk and OpenDBXDriver > is just one of the sub-projects. > > There are several changes between this version and the last one of > SqueakDBX, but most of them is about infrastructure: test were moved to a > separate package, platform packages and backend classes were renamed, all > "SqueakDBX" was replaced with its new name. > > To install it: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfOpenDBXDriver'; > load. > > (((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOpenDBXDriver) perform: #project) > perform: #version: with: #stable) load. > > > We have also created a new repository for all the code: > http://www.squeaksource.com/DBXTalk > > The issue tracker is in: http://code.google.com/p/dbxtalk/issues/list > > Thanks to Natacha Perrin we have a new DBXTalk logo that you can see in: > http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/dbxtalk46.png > The license of the logo is Creative Commons. > > We have also started a Pharo By Example chapter. So far we are writing > about DBXTalk, but soon we will do about Glorp. We attach a draft of it > while it is integrated into the main git repository of the book. > Just in case here is the git repo fork: > https://github.com/guillep/PharoByExample-english. > > Just to let you know, we have already ported the last VW release of Glorp > to Pharo and we have it already working MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle and > Sqlite3. We are closing some last problems and we will soon make the first > release. We want to thanks Alan Night for all his help and his reviews :). > > 4 persons of the team are present at ESUG right now and we are going to > give a talk on Friday. We will upload then the slides. > > Finally, we would like to thanks ESUG for the sponsorship through this ESUG > SummerTalk. > > Thanks! > Guille, Mariano, Esteban, Santiago, Gise > >

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeaksource.com (was: [squeak-dev] Re: Addition to "About Pharo" dialog)

by Chris Muller

A new GemStone-hosted SS sounds good, but my own curiousity is burning. I probably missed the discussion about whether we ever attempted to debug and fix this situation by means other than complete replacement. I'm very curious to know, what is the nature of the scalability/crashing problem with SS that this community has been (uncharacteristically) unable to solve? On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> wrote: > On 26.08.2011, at 18:14, Alexander LazareviÄ wrote: > > Hi Stef! > > 2011/8/26 StÃ©phane DucasseÂ <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look > but got distracted. > > It would be good to use it. > > Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when > there is no SqueakSource. :-/ > > Boy, this is annoying. > > The Chile mirror is up. > > To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo onÂ source.squeak.orgÂ received some > more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive. > > While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not > sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well. > > Just for practical reasons (a source repoÂ that's not available over long > periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits > toÂ source.squeak.orgÂ until there is a reliable alternative. > > So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects. > > Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker > repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current > situation is bad at best. > > That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers > think of the idea on the vm-dev list. > > I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know! > > We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate > squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias > should be able to tell us more. > - Bert - > > >

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Gofer problem

by Sean P. DeNigris

Okay, we found Gofer>>package:constraint: which can be used like: aGofer package: 'Magritte-Seaside' constraint: [ :version | version branch = 'trial' ]. This does not seem obvious. Would it be beneficial to be able to say what I tried originally i.e. package: 'DeNigrisSetup-Platform.pharo'? Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Gofer-problem-tp3773228p3773286.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 27, 2011

[Pharo-project] Gofer problem

by Sean P. DeNigris

The following was unable to resolve the package due to the ".pharo" part. Dale said this should be valid syntax. Gofer new directory: '/path/to/Setup/'; package: 'DeNigrisSetup-Platform.pharo'; load. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Gofer-problem-tp3773228p3773228.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I read the mail of nicolas in the train (amazing no cooling system so it was more like a sona and I never realize before that second class in uk was o bad for tall people) and yes this code is complex. Having an AST based debugger is definitively an interesting alternative. Stef On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Michael Roberts wrote: > ok i'll take a look and try add some test cases to the analyser.... > > Mike > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:16 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > While working on a chapter on blocks I got the following problems > > > > foo > > | a| > a := 0. > ^ {[a :=2] .[a]} > > > | res | > res := ZnClientTests new foo. > res second value crLog. > res first value. > res second value crLog. > > stepping into new foo first positioned me only on the [a :=2 ] skipping the first assignment > second I get debuggers when I want to try to get information. > > Stef >

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to "About Pharo" dialog

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Alexander LazareviÄ wrote: > Hi Stef! > > 2011/8/26 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted. > It would be good to use it. > > Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/ > > Boy, this is annoying. > > To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive. Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative. > > Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best. > > I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know! yes But beside magic I cannot do much. We discussed with nicolas petton and he is working hard to make sure that SmalltalkHub will not have such problem.

Aug. 27, 2011

[Pharo-project] Squeaksource.com (was: [squeak-dev] Re: Addition to "About Pharo" dialog)

by Bert Freudenberg

On 26.08.2011, at 18:14, Alexander LazareviÄ wrote: > Hi Stef! > > 2011/8/26 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted. > It would be good to use it. > > Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/ > > Boy, this is annoying. The Chile mirror is up. > To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive. While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well. > Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative. So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects. > Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best. That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list. > I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know! We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more. - Bert -

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Plan for releases: after 1.4 I propose that we do a stabilization release

by Sean P. DeNigris

Damien Cassou wrote: > > and I think it is a good idea. > +1. And it comes at a great time now that FS and Zinc will be in the image - they were so needed! Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Plan-for-releases-after-1-4-I-propose-that-we-do-a-st… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Plan for releases: after 1.4 I propose that we do a stabilization release

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'm not sure that the proposed idea may work but we should give a try. A lot of open source projects have releases like this (e.g., Ubuntu) and I think it is a good idea. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Aug. 27, 2011