July 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [TODO 1.3] Last items to be done this week...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> yes, that would be very useful :) > Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it. Excellent I will try it. Should I take it from jenkins? Stef > > El 08/07/2011, a las 11:14a.m., StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > >> Hi esteban >> >> would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM? >> It will stress you but we will find bugs. >> For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4 >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) >>> >>> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will happen any time soon, sadly :( >>> >>> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least those I can see now): >>> >>> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) >>> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without them, but it will be nice :) >>> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. >>> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, now) :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribiÃ³: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very strange. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly out of confusion...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which? >>>>>> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we >>>>>> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >>>> >>>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >>>> >>>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> best, >>>> Eliot >>>> >>> >> >> > >

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

do you have an idea why class Point is not found? May showing all the inherited methods should be optional Stef On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks a lot!!!! On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Max Leske

Impressive! Thumbs up! On 08.07.2011, at 23:20, Bernhard Pieber wrote: > Looks great! > > Cheers, > Bernhard > > Am 08.07.2011 um 21:29 schrieb Camillo Bruni: > >> hi all, >> >> damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: >> >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ >> >> Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) >> >> cami > >

July 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by Bernhard Pieber

Looks great! Cheers, Bernhard Am 08.07.2011 um 21:29 schrieb Camillo Bruni: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami

July 8, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc

by laurent laffont

Wonderful !!! I have some errors 404 when I click on links "Override method from:" like http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/doc/class/RBMessageNode#method/receiver:selector… : The yuml.me inheritance diagram could be retrieved using ajax then displayed in a div inside the page when loaded. Laurent. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillo.bruni(a)inria.fr>wrote: > hi all, > > damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a > working version of webdoc online: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ > > Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, > but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on > should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) > > cami >

July 8, 2011

[Pharo-project] webdoc

by Camillo Bruni

hi all, damien and me finally found enough time at the pharo sprint to put a working version of webdoc online: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/webdoc/ Please test and give some feedback :) (the major issue right now is speed, but since we plan on using it only as an html generator which later-on should be served statically this shouldn't be much of a problem) cami

July 8, 2011

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14034

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

14034 ----- - Issue 4469: Clean up old HTTP Code. Thanks Sven. Stef

July 8, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [TODO 1.3] Last items to be done this week...

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes, that would be very useful :) Now the graphics problem is fixed, so everybody can try it. El 08/07/2011, a las 11:14a.m., StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > Hi esteban > > would it help you if we ask everybody to use the cocoaVM? > It will stress you but we will find bugs. > For the UI glitch I have it too with 5.7.4 > > Stef > > > On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> yes... I'm aware of the graphics problem, but I still don't know what is causing it (it not happens with pharo 1.2 or squeak, so I think is a combination of "something" in vm side -cocoa version, that "something" in pharo changes brought to front). I will work on that some time this week :) >> >> In the near future, the only version of cog vm should be cocoa version, but there are still some remaining issues who prevents ppl to adopt it (not very big issues, and there are a lot less issues now, but still some remain). I think one of the main reasons is that both Eliot and Igor are working on the carbon version, not the cocoa one (for historical reasons: cocao version didn't exist when Eliot started working on Cog). I would love to join those efforts and drop carbon version (which is legacy), but I don't think it will happen any time soon, sadly :( >> >> This are the issues preventing people to adopt cocoa version (at least those I can see now): >> >> 1) Not enough plugins. This is SOLVED, currently, hudson builds came with almost all the plugins provided for old carbon versions (4.2.x) >> 2) No MacMenusPlugin. Still there. Not a big issue, as we can live without them, but it will be nice :) >> 3) This annoying graphics problem... I hope to solve it soon. >> 4) I didn't release a 6.0 stable version (because of the graphics problem, now) :) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> El 04/07/2011, a las 5:13p.m., Eliot Miranda escribiÃ³: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2011-07-04, at 21:34, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The tests also hang with the Inria build of Cog. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I just did run all the tests and it did not hang... >>>>>> >>>>>> Very strange. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Of course there are *two* Cog Vms for Mac... and I use the other one) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I managed to reproduce the graphics bug. >>>>> >>>>> It only happens with the Cocoa VM. >>>>> >>>>> I have personally not used the cocoa branch the last months... (mostly out of confusion...) >>>>> >>>>> Dumb question: am I the only person who can not remember which is which? >>>>> Carbon / Cocoa? I try HAAARD, and in 30 min I have forgotten... can't we >>>>> call it "old" vs "new"? Or "stable" vs. "unstable"? >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> its simply C (Carbon = old) vs Objective-C (Cocoa = new) :) >>> >>> Now my brain can not retain this information. What do I do? >>> >>> You can't make cocoa (a complex of many different organic chemicals) without carbon, therefore Carbon came before Cocoa ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> best, >>> Eliot >>> >> > >

July 8, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] About Cocoa VMs

by Igor Stasenko

On 8 July 2011 15:57, Juan Vuletich <juan(a)jvuletich.org> wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > Both VMs crash on my system at startup. Maybe it could be because of using > OS X 10.5 and not 10.6? Tried them with Pharo 1.2 and 1.3, just downloaded > from the Pharo site. Details follow: > Yes, most probably it is about os version (and framework which VM expects to be on your machine) I briefly googled the "unknown required load command" and looks like it because built VMs are using 10.6 and you are on 10.5 I think Esteban or John know better than me, since i know almost nothing about mac-specific infrastructure. > I hope this helps. > > Thanks, > Juan Vuletich > > ----------------------------------------------- > Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.2): > ----------------------------------------------- > Process: Â Â Â Â StackVM [7495] > Path: > Â /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM > Identifier: Â Â Â org.squeak.Cog > Version: Â Â Â Â ??? (???) > Code Type: Â Â Â X86 (Native) > Parent Process: Â launchd [68] > > Interval Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 199492 sec > Crashes Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 11 > Per-App Interval Since Last Report: Â 0 sec > Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: Â 3 > > Date/Time: Â Â Â 2011-07-08 10:38:02.475 -0300 > OS Version: Â Â Â Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a) > Report Version: Â 6 > Anonymous UUID: Â 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674 > > Exception Type: Â EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) > Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 > Crashed Thread: Â 0 > > Dyld Error Message: > Â unknown required load command 0x80000022 > > ----------------------------------------------- > Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.2): > ----------------------------------------------- > Process: Â Â Â Â CogVM [7509] > Path: > Â /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM > Identifier: Â Â Â org.squeakfoundation.Squeak > Version: Â Â Â Â ??? (???) > Code Type: Â Â Â X86 (Native) > Parent Process: Â launchd [68] > > Interval Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 118 sec > Crashes Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 1 > Per-App Interval Since Last Report: Â 0 sec > Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: Â 18 > > Date/Time: Â Â Â 2011-07-08 10:40:00.562 -0300 > OS Version: Â Â Â Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a) > Report Version: Â 6 > Anonymous UUID: Â 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674 > > Exception Type: Â EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) > Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 > Crashed Thread: Â 0 > > Dyld Error Message: > Â unknown required load command 0x80000022 > > ----------------------------------------------- > Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.3): > ----------------------------------------------- > Process: Â Â Â Â StackVM [7524] > Path: > Â /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM > Identifier: Â Â Â org.squeak.Cog > Version: Â Â Â Â ??? (???) > Code Type: Â Â Â X86 (Native) > Parent Process: Â launchd [68] > > Interval Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 102 sec > Crashes Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 1 > Per-App Interval Since Last Report: Â 0 sec > Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: Â 1 > > Date/Time: Â Â Â 2011-07-08 10:41:43.149 -0300 > OS Version: Â Â Â Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a) > Report Version: Â 6 > Anonymous UUID: Â 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674 > > Exception Type: Â EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) > Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 > Crashed Thread: Â 0 > > Dyld Error Message: > Â unknown required load command 0x80000022 > > ----------------------------------------------- > Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.3): > ----------------------------------------------- > Process: Â Â Â Â CogVM [7533] > Path: > Â /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM > Identifier: Â Â Â org.squeakfoundation.Squeak > Version: Â Â Â Â ??? (???) > Code Type: Â Â Â X86 (Native) > Parent Process: Â launchd [68] > > Interval Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 59 sec > Crashes Since Last Report: Â Â Â Â Â 1 > Per-App Interval Since Last Report: Â 0 sec > Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: Â 1 > > Date/Time: Â Â Â 2011-07-08 10:42:42.634 -0300 > OS Version: Â Â Â Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a) > Report Version: Â 6 > Anonymous UUID: Â 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674 > > Exception Type: Â EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) > Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 > Crashed Thread: Â 0 > > Dyld Error Message: > Â unknown required load command 0x80000022 > > --------------------------------------------------------- > System Configuration (Same for all 4 crashes): > --------------------------------------------------------- > Model: Macmini2,1, BootROM MM21.009A.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, > 1.83 GHz, 2.5 GB > Graphics: kHW_IntelGMA950Item, GMA 950, spdisplays_builtin, > spdisplays_integrated_vram > Memory Module: global_name > AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x86), > 1.4.16.2 > Bluetooth: Version 2.1.9f10, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports > Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 > Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS542580K9SA00, 74.53 GB > Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITACD-RW Â CW-8124 > USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, (null) mA > USB Device: IR Receiver, (null) mA > USB Device: NetScroll+ EYE, (null) mA > USB Device: Logitech USB Headset, (null) mA > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 8, 2011