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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] **Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:29 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Doru can you add the page on morphic on this list? > Marcus can you add a page to OPAL? > with pending todo? Ok, I will dot that. -- Marcus Denker Do it together: http://taskfor.us

July 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] About the site

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Pharo 1.4 is not easily accessible from the site > http://www.pharo-project.org/home > Also true for the new Jenkins continuous integration server > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/ > > Pharo 1.3 is listed as unstable, and not in released. Hasn't it been > released yet ? No, not yetâ¦ we should do the last touches and release it. I think we will do it this week. > Generally, where should problems with the site be reported ? In the normal tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list I really think we need a bug tracker that has sub-project support (tags alone don't do it). Imagine we would have real trackers for all the sub-partsâ¦ (and even things like "cleaning") it would look far more manageable. Marcus -- Marcus Denker Do it together: http://taskfor.us

July 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] A request or suggestion.

by Friedrich Dominicus

StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: > Check the settings because you can say to the window manager that it should stagger or position them in another way. > Else have a look at TWM > Stef I tried to change the window positioning but that was not what I wanted to have I want in the low applicaton bar a group of Workspaces a group of Browsers etc. So what option are you referring to? Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus

July 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: [squeak-dev] help needed with the new FFI plugin...

by David T. Lewis

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 01:50:49PM +0200, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > > Threaded FFI is great, it opens new possibilities, but nowadays the > feature I miss the most is the ability to call functions in 64-bit > (x86_64) libraries (from a 32-bit VM/image). As far as I know, mixing 32-bit and 64-bit libraries in a single executable (VM) is not feasible, at least not on Linux. Maybe it would work in the case of statically linked libraries, I'm not certain. The traditional FFI does not work for 64-bit VMs, and I expect that this needs to be resolved for any new FFI implementation as well, because some of the issues were in the interpreter itself, not just the FFI plugin. The issue also may affect other things, e.g. Igor's proposed #primLoadModule primitive crashes the VM if compiled for 64 bit. I had intended to push the fixes for 64-bit FFI as a VM team initiative, but it's a complex set of changes that require coordination of VMMaker (oscog plus traditional), as well as of all the platforms (oscog, trunk, all platforms) so IMO this would be a lot to take on right now. But I guess that I should ask - is there interest in implementing fixes for 64-bit FFI? Some background: Mantis report and patches to implement the fixes, circa 2008. I assume some bit rot will have set in by this time: <http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7237> Status of the fixes, as tested on various platforms: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2008-May/001945.html> The last discussion relative to VM team priorities: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-July/002853.html> Dave

July 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] does anybody want to continue the comment of the day effort?

by laurent laffont

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > yes but this is easy somebody pick a random class without comment and we > all try to get a comment :) > yes. If somebody else want to lead the effort, just do it. Laurent. > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:58 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > I will continue after my holidays. > > > > Laurent. > > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Although I haven't had anything to contribute up to now, I vote to > continue it. If there is a comment I can help with, I will. > > > > Max > > > > > > On 24.07.2011, at 10:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > > > HI guys > > > > > > does any of you want to continue the comment of the day effort? > > > Because it was really important. > > > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > > > >

July 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] The law of the universum: giving the positive energy, Pharo development and my son message to you:)

by Johannes Rasche

very friendly this thread :) Am 24.07.2011 um 15:48 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse: > Thanks a lot :) > Welcome and have fun with us. > >> Dear Pharo developers! >> >> My son LÃ¡szlÃ³ Patrik, who is 4 and hal years old, is an active user of the Pharo Smalltalk Envinronment!:) >> And we are talking about, the Pharo versions and the hard working of the development >> His very likes the Pharo, weekly playing program, "the working with Pharo". >> And he said to me, "Daddy please tell the Pharo developers, I'm waiting for the 1.3 version". > > yes we should finish to make it public. The current version is ready as a release candidate so everybody can use it. > >> His respect for you, is huge. He is thinking you are real scientists:) >> He send for you a song, one of from his liked hits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YJoXWzwQ4 >> I attached a screenshot from his "working". >> Yes, his a private Pharo image.:) >> I hope, this message give you a little positive energy and joy:) > > yes a lot :) > > Stef > >> Best regards. >> >> Laszlo Zsolt Kiss >> >> Ps.: Sorry, for my bad english:) > > Do not worry. We are all talking bad english here and we do not really care.

July 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] The law of the universum: giving the positive energy, Pharo development and my son message to you:)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks a lot :) Welcome and have fun with us. > Dear Pharo developers! > > My son LÃ¡szlÃ³ Patrik, who is 4 and hal years old, is an active user of the Pharo Smalltalk Envinronment!:) > And we are talking about, the Pharo versions and the hard working of the development > His very likes the Pharo, weekly playing program, "the working with Pharo". > And he said to me, "Daddy please tell the Pharo developers, I'm waiting for the 1.3 version". yes we should finish to make it public. The current version is ready as a release candidate so everybody can use it. > His respect for you, is huge. He is thinking you are real scientists:) > He send for you a song, one of from his liked hits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YJoXWzwQ4 > I attached a screenshot from his "working". > Yes, his a private Pharo image.:) > I hope, this message give you a little positive energy and joy:) yes a lot :) Stef > Best regards. > > Laszlo Zsolt Kiss > > Ps.: Sorry, for my bad english:) Do not worry. We are all talking bad english here and we do not really care.

July 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] **Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

tx Stef On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Thanks. I entered a row for the Glamorous Toolkit. > > The next thing is to enter the issues. > > Doru > > > On 24 Jul 2011, at 11:35, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>> I would do it if you give me access to edit the page. >> >> that should work with your tudor.girba(a)gmail.com account. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Yesterday is a fact. > Tomorrow is a possibility. > Today is a challenge." > > > >

July 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] does anybody want to continue the comment of the day effort?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes but this is easy somebody pick a random class without comment and we all try to get a comment :) On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:58 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > I will continue after my holidays. > > Laurent. > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Although I haven't had anything to contribute up to now, I vote to continue it. If there is a comment I can help with, I will. > > Max > > > On 24.07.2011, at 10:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > HI guys > > > > does any of you want to continue the comment of the day effort? > > Because it was really important. > > > > Stef > > > > >

July 24, 2011

[Pharo-project] The law of the universum: giving the positive energy, Pharo development and my son message to you:)

by Laszlo Zsolt Kiss

Dear Pharo developers! My son LÃ¡szlÃ³ Patrik, who is 4 and hal years old, is an active user of the Pharo Smalltalk Envinronment!:)And we are talking about, the Pharo versions and the hard working of the development.His very likes the Pharo, weekly playing program, "the working with Pharo".And he said to me, Â "Daddy please tell the Pharo developers, I'm waiting for the 1.3 version".His respect for you, is huge.Â He is thinking you are Â real scientists:)Â He send for you a song, one of from his liked hits:Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YJoXWzwQ4 [1]I attached a screenshot from his "working".Yes, his a private Pharo image.:)I hope, this message give you a little positive energy and joy:) Best regards. Laszlo Zsolt Kiss Ps.: Sorry, for my bad english:) Links: ------ [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YJoXWzwQ4

July 24, 2011