June 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] DNU in "Browse hierarchy" from Inspector

by Diego Fernandez

The issue is reported on: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4380 With a fix attached to it.

June 9, 2011

[Pharo-project] FFI versus Aloen

by Chris Cunnington

Do you mean Alien? Alien is newer and was written to address some shortcomings in FFI. Chris http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6100 http://www.squeaksource.com/Alien/ http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-March/023328.html http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/148455.ht…

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI versus Aloen

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

On 06/09/2011 10:54 PM, Dave Mason wrote: > Why are there two packages to do essentially the same thing? They both seem to be maintained but presumably there are fans of each. IIRC it is historical. FFI has been around for a long time and is proven - AFAIK for example the whole OpenGL interfacing in Croquet/Teleplace is done using FFI. Alien is newer stuff and still being worked on I think, and if I am not entirely mistaken is actually complimentary? Someone with better knowledge can surely fill in. regards, GÃ¶ran

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Have you played with Ameba?

by HwaJong Oh

are you saying that i should tell the morphic system the geometric figure(an ellipse in this case) so it can refresh non-rectanglar area of its canvas? I've seen some protocols of modern operating system like macosx or windows to support non-rectangular views. Maybe I should use that protocol of morphic system if there is. Best Regards HwaJong Oh -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Have-you-played-with-Ameba-tp3585624p3586809.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 9, 2011

[Pharo-project] FFI versus Aloen

by Dave Mason

Why are there two packages to do essentially the same thing? They both seem to be maintained but presumably there are fans of each. I'm looking to build a higher level facility to conveniently access the foreign world, and wondering which to base it on. Any thoughts appreciated. ../Dave

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > FLSerializationSettings newDefault > onClass: ClassWithTransients > declareTransients: #(myTransientValue1 myTransientValue1). > > Do you have a better idea? I'm dead tired and not having clear idea but is it better to mention what should be save or what should not be saved? Stef

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > On 9 June 2011 09:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> do you know what is the encoding scheme under message pack? > > It is very simple (like JSON and serializes only booleans, integers, > floats, strings, arrays and dictionaries) and is described here: > > - design: http://wiki.msgpack.org/display/MSGPACK/Design+of+Serialization > - format: http://wiki.msgpack.org/display/MSGPACK/Format+specification. > >> Huffman like? > > Kind of, but static. Common objects are serialized with very few bits. > >> It would be a nice student projects to get one version for Smalltalk > > I posted the links in my previous mail, there is already an > implementation on SqueakSource > (http://www.squeaksource.com/MessagePack) Also there is a high-level > implementation that can serialize any Smalltalk object > (http://www.squeaksource.com/STOMP) It seems to handle class changes > too. Ok I missed that. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch >

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: [GS/SS Beta] [ANN] Google Analytics Tracker, a small tool

by Tudor Girba

Cool! I would be interested in the XPath parser as well. Doru On 9 Jun 2011, at 20:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > thanks! > the XPath parser is really incomplete right now, that's why I didn't push it outside the tracker... but I have plans for it, as it is really useful :) > > Esteban > > El 09/06/2011, a las 2:05p.m., Lukas Renggli escribiÃ³: > >> Very cool. I especially like the XPath parser :-) >> >> Lukas >> >> On 9 June 2011 13:41, Nick Ager <nick.ager(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi >>> This looks great - looking forward to integrating it. >>> Cheers >>> Nick >>> >>> On 8 June 2011 21:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I want to announce the release of Google Analytics Tracker, a small tool >>>> we make for getitmade.com (Nick Ager's project), to allow us to get >>>> analytics data. >>>> Right now is very simple, it just give us page visits data, but can be >>>> used as a foundation to get a lot more info. >>>> >>>> You get it by: >>>> >>>> Gofer it >>>> squeaksource: 'gat'; >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGoogleAnalyticsTracker'; >>>> load. >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGoogleAnalyticsTracker) load. >>>> >>>> To see how it works just see GAAccess class>>#example. >>>> >>>> It uses Zinc and PetitParser, so if gemstone can load both packages, it >>>> will work without any problems (I think it will, but I will check it >>>> tomorrow... maybe with a different configuration). >>>> >>>> You will be able to add to your pages something like the image I'm sending >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [GS/SS Beta] [ANN] Google Analytics Tracker, a small tool

by Esteban Lorenzano

thanks! the XPath parser is really incomplete right now, that's why I didn't push it outside the tracker... but I have plans for it, as it is really useful :) Esteban El 09/06/2011, a las 2:05p.m., Lukas Renggli escribiÃ³: > Very cool. I especially like the XPath parser :-) > > Lukas > > On 9 June 2011 13:41, Nick Ager <nick.ager(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi >> This looks great - looking forward to integrating it. >> Cheers >> Nick >> >> On 8 June 2011 21:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I want to announce the release of Google Analytics Tracker, a small tool >>> we make for getitmade.com (Nick Ager's project), to allow us to get >>> analytics data. >>> Right now is very simple, it just give us page visits data, but can be >>> used as a foundation to get a lot more info. >>> >>> You get it by: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'gat'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGoogleAnalyticsTracker'; >>> load. >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGoogleAnalyticsTracker) load. >>> >>> To see how it works just see GAAccess class>>#example. >>> >>> It uses Zinc and PetitParser, so if gemstone can load both packages, it >>> will work without any problems (I think it will, but I will check it >>> tomorrow... maybe with a different configuration). >>> >>> You will be able to add to your pages something like the image I'm sending >>> :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 9, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

by Eliot Miranda

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Martin and Mariano, >> >> a couple of questions. What's the right way to exclude certain >> objects from the serialization? Is there a way of excluding certain inst >> vars from certain objects? >> >> > Hi, > > We are close to have this feature, but still is an open issue. > > The idea is to to support this "statically" via: > > ClassWithTransients >> fuelTransientInstanceVariables > ^ #(myTransientValue1 myTransientValue1) > > or more dinamically via: > > FLSerializationSettings newDefault > onClass: ClassWithTransients > declareTransients: #(myTransientValue1 myTransientValue1). > > Do you have a better idea? > No. The above looks fine. > > Cheers > Martin > > > >> best >> Eliot >> > >

June 9, 2011