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Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage removed classes, ScriptLoader and Undeclared ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I will pay attention to use Smalltalk globals at: in the future. > Don't worry, it is easy to fix when it happens ;) Sometimes fixing is easier than trying not to break it hehehe > > Stef > > On May 14, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi guys. It seems when a class is removed, and used by ScriptLoader, it > goes to Undeclared, logically. > > Example: SMxHandMorph was removed. However, ScriptLoader >> update13143 > did something with such class. So, now, it is in Undeclared. > > How can we correctly solve this kind of problem? > > > > 1) Always use "Smalltalk at:" and #perform: in ScriptLoader updates? > > 2) remove those #update methods ? > > 3) Fix the broken ones by Smalltalk at: a and #perform: ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage removed classes, ScriptLoader and Undeclared ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I will pay attention to use Smalltalk globals at: in the future. Stef On May 14, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys. It seems when a class is removed, and used by ScriptLoader, it goes to Undeclared, logically. > Example: SMxHandMorph was removed. However, ScriptLoader >> update13143 did something with such class. So, now, it is in Undeclared. > How can we correctly solve this kind of problem? > > 1) Always use "Smalltalk at:" and #perform: in ScriptLoader updates? > 2) remove those #update methods ? > 3) Fix the broken ones by Smalltalk at: a and #perform: ? > > > Thanks > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 14, 2011, at 9:58 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I hosted it on the gforge. > Now we can also put it in github. I would prefer to not maintain several versions. > Laurent how many links did you have to fix? > > - htlatex output dir doesn't work, so I had to move manually *html and *png to a build dir (indeed, I wrote a bash script for that). > - I've resized the pharo.png icon and create the creative commons one from the .pdf > - PBE1.html: there was some mess at the end of the table of content, I've removed it > - add a max-width for figures in the css > - next link was missing in almost all chapters, previous link wrong in 4 or 5 chapters. argh! > > Ideally we should have a script which do all this stuff so we can always generate from the last version. This is possible, I may look at it for PBE2 :) Thanks! > > Laurent. > > > Stef >

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello can't load a simple project in PharoCore1.2 or 1.3

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > you get the same in 1.2? > Strange. Doesn't work on PharoCore 1.2 or 1.3, but works on PharoCore1.1.1 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Need someone to lead Fix of the Day contest [WAS] Re: Need help with 1.3 Full Image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Pat Maddox <patmaddox(a)me.com> wrote: > On May 14, 2011, at 9:53 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>> I try to solve some issue in the issues tracker from time to time, but >>>> it's often difficult >>>> when outside your expertise. So doing it with others might definitively >>>> help. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Fix of the day contest has the advantage of being compatible with every >>> people timezone / agenda. >>> >>> We can also synchronize CODTC and FOTDC in order to comment classes >>> related to the fix. >>> >>> Now we just need someone to lead the FOTDC. I already do COTDC so is >>> there a good soul ? >>> >>> >> well, I've started by renaming the thread and attaching Pharo-users. >> >> Laurent, maybe you should clarify what "lead" exactly means. >> > > > Everyday: > - choose an issue for the contest > - write it to the mailing list > - push to ask help > - contest is done when a slice is put in inbox > > > Indeed, much like COTDC is. > > Laurent. > > > That would be awesome! I was looking at the bug tracker ( > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list#) yesterday to see if there > were things that I could help with...but even when looking at "open" issues, > many of them are several years old, and have a state of "Accepted." So as > someone not actively involved in pharo development, I have absolutely no > clue what actually needs to be fixed. > > I'd like to help, the bug tracker doesn't give me much guidance (or at > least I'd benefit from an explanation of how it's structured), and so > guidance from someone who's active would be really helpful. > You can also check those tagged as milestone 1.3 which means that they "should" be more or less new. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D1.3+&colspec… cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

by laurent laffont

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > I hosted it on the gforge. > Now we can also put it in github. I would prefer to not maintain several > versions. > Laurent how many links did you have to fix? > - htlatex output dir doesn't work, so I had to move manually *html and *png to a build dir (indeed, I wrote a bash script for that). - I've resized the pharo.png icon and create the creative commons one from the .pdf - PBE1.html: there was some mess at the end of the table of content, I've removed it - add a max-width for figures in the css - next link was missing in almost all chapters, previous link wrong in 4 or 5 chapters. Ideally we should have a script which do all this stuff so we can always generate from the last version. This is possible, I may look at it for PBE2 :) Laurent. > Stef >

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I hosted it on the gforge. Now we can also put it in github. I would prefer to not maintain several versions. Laurent how many links did you have to fix? Stef

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello can't load a simple project in PharoCore1.2 or 1.3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you get the same in 1.2? Strange. Stef On May 14, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > installMethod

May 14, 2011

[Pharo-project] Monticello can't load a simple project in PharoCore1.2 or 1.3

by Damien Cassou

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4229 Try to execute the following in a PharoCore: Gofer new url: 'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/SwaUtilities'; package: 'Animations'; load (you don't need Gofer, you can also use the MC browser directly). It looks like Monticello manages to install the package correctly, but then the image is frozen and CPU runs hot. The problem appears in MCPackageLoader>>basicload between the following 2 lines: methodAdditions do: [:each | each installMethod]. methodAdditions do: [:each | each notifyObservers]. And when I say between, I really mean between. The line execute just fine, but then the CPU runs hot and image freezes. What do you think? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Need someone to lead Fix of the Day contest [WAS] Re: Need help with 1.3 Full Image

by laurent laffont

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:53 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>> I try to solve some issue in the issues tracker from time to time, but >>>>> it's often difficult >>>>> when outside your expertise. So doing it with others might definitively >>>>> help. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fix of the day contest has the advantage of being compatible with every >>>> people timezone / agenda. >>>> >>>> We can also synchronize CODTC and FOTDC in order to comment classes >>>> related to the fix. >>>> >>>> Now we just need someone to lead the FOTDC. I already do COTDC so is >>>> there a good soul ? >>>> >>>> >>> well, I've started by renaming the thread and attaching Pharo-users. >>> >>> Laurent, maybe you should clarify what "lead" exactly means. >>> >> >> >> Everyday: >> - choose an issue for the contest >> - write it to the mailing list >> - push to ask help >> - contest is done when a slice is put in inbox >> >> >> > > hehehehe I thought you were a bot/cron/robot ;) > Oh no. My first joy is to choose the class to comment :) Laurent. > > > > >> Indeed, much like COTDC is. >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> >>>> Laurent >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> -- >>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

May 14, 2011