May 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] SVN vs Git for the cogvm

by Toon Verwaest

On 05/03/2011 07:57 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > LOL > > But I can tell that I hated when sbe changed under my feets from svn to git. Why the hate? See it as an opportunity to grow ;)

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SVN vs Git for the cogvm

by Sean Allen

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> writes: > > Norbert> Am 03.05.2011 um 08:07 schrieb Sean Allen: > >>> The more I understand git, the more I grow to hate SVN. >>> >>> And I hate SVN quite a lot now. :) >>> >>> >>> There's a lot to hate but... it could be CVS. >>> > Norbert> Which I liked much better than SCCS. > > And only slightly better than "cp foo.c foo.c.04june2008" :) > > Or my favorite: > > Â cp foo.c foo.c-GOOD > > How many of you just cringed there? :) One step down from RCS!

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add temp does not add the temp in 1.3 13179

by Johan Brichau

On 03 May 2011, at 10:14, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > aha.... I didn't try that ;) > So...in 1.2.1 adding from a browser does work, but not from the debugger? > And in 1.3 none of them? I don't know about 1.3 but it's one of the things I started to notice about 1.2.1 this week. In the browser, it works fine.

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] digitAt: issue

by Bernat Romagosa

Done: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4154 2011/5/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > open an issue and propose a path to get there > > Stef > > On May 2, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > > DigitAt: is a horrible name then, should rather be bitAt:. > > > > the digitAt: implementation you're looking for: > > > > ^ self // (10 raisedTo: index - 1) \\ 10 > > > > thats quite short :) > > > > On 2011-05-02, at 11:35, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > > > >> Ouch, understood! > >> > >> Then what would be the proper way to address a decimal digit in a > number? I can only think of (bigNumber asString at: index) asNumber, which > is... awful. > >> > >> 2011/5/2 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> > >> Bernat, > >> > >> On 02 May 2011, at 11:13, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, try to run the following: > >> > > >> > (2 raisedTo: 100000) digitAt: 1 > >> > > >> > The expected result (if I understood what digitAt: should return) is > 9, but the message returns 0 instead. In fact, it returns 0 for any index. > >> > > >> > Is this a bug or am I missunderstanding how digitAt: should work? > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Bernat Romagosa. > >> > > >> > p.s. My config is Pharo 1.2 with a 'Croquet Closure Cog VM > [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.51]' on Debian Lenny. > >> > >> Consider, > >> > >> 2 raisedTo: 32 > >> > >> #digitAt: for digits 1 to 4 returns 0, 5 return 1. > >> From the comments you can see that the number is looked at in base 256. > >> The above number thus has 5 digits in this base, four are zero and the > highest one is one. > >> Furthermore, the first digit is the lowest one. > >> If you inspect the number it might become clearer. > >> > >> Any #digitAt: has to depend on the base you use to represent the number, > this one doesn't, so it seems to be useful only to return internal parts of > a number. > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> Sven > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add temp does not add the temp in 1.3 13179

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > > On 03 May 2011, at 10:04, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This is already broken in Pharo 1.2. > > > > In the official Pharo 1.2.1 it works correct. > > Nope. > When adding a temp while in the debugger it does not add the temp either in > Pharo1.2.1 > aha.... I didn't try that ;) So...in 1.2.1 adding from a browser does work, but not from the debugger? And in 1.3 none of them? > Johan > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add temp does not add the temp in 1.3 13179

by Johan Brichau

On 03 May 2011, at 10:04, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is already broken in Pharo 1.2. > > In the official Pharo 1.2.1 it works correct. Nope. When adding a temp while in the debugger it does not add the temp either in Pharo1.2.1 Johan

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add temp does not add the temp in 1.3 13179

by Mariano Martinez Peck

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4153 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is already broken in Pharo 1.2. >> > > In the official Pharo 1.2.1 it works correct. > > >> >> Lukas >> >> On Monday, 2 May 2011, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> wrote: >> > Hi guys >> > >> > I do not know how many of you are coding in 1.3 but when the system asks >> me to add >> > if I want to add a temp, the temp does not show up. >> > >> > Stef >> > >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2011

[Pharo-project] Monticello package analysis?

by Markus Fritsche

Hello, I was thinking this morning about some tools to analyze monticello packages before loading them into the image. I usually like to have an image with many tools, unfortunately, some packages break other ones sometimes. Therefore, I'd like to classify a package before loading it, so I have better grounds for a decission to load a package or to leave it in the repository :) Before I start drafting something, I'd like to know if something like this has already been done and I am just not aware of it (this is my two weeks of smalltalk of the year). I am think something like this: Im-O-Im - Impact-On-Image * Low - package includes only classes and no extensions. All references to classes and globals are available in the current image * Medium - package includes code that extends protocols of existing classes (from another package/ kernel) * High - package includes methods that alter protocols of existing classes - chances are, that the package will break other stuff when loaded * Possible load error - package includes initialize methods of classe that will not execute in the current environment, thus there will be a debugger at initialization time * Possible compile error - package includes underscore assignments * Broken - package includes references to classes that are not part of the current environment * Unmet dependencies - package includes references to classes defined in other packages (within the same repository)

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add temp does not add the temp in 1.3 13179

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is already broken in Pharo 1.2. > In the official Pharo 1.2.1 it works correct. > > Lukas > > On Monday, 2 May 2011, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi guys > > > > I do not know how many of you are coding in 1.3 but when the system asks > me to add > > if I want to add a temp, the temp does not show up. > > > > Stef > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] SVN vs Git for the cogvm

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> writes: Norbert> Am 03.05.2011 um 08:07 schrieb Sean Allen: >> The more I understand git, the more I grow to hate SVN. >> >> And I hate SVN quite a lot now. :) >> >> >> There's a lot to hate but... it could be CVS. >> Norbert> Which I liked much better than SCCS. And only slightly better than "cp foo.c foo.c.04june2008" :) Or my favorite: cp foo.c foo.c-GOOD How many of you just cringed there? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

May 3, 2011