April 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Marcus Denker

> > If you really care, do the following: > > Â - send all issues to some mail-bot, as I said, thats as simple as having a special user on some server, and a script to process incoming mail > Â - preprocess the mails to your liking > Â - send the processed/filtered mail to the mailing list. > > Yes, I will put that on the TODO List. Then we can do that to the mails send to the special tracker list which I have set up: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker -- Marcus DenkerÂ --Â denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Stefan Marr

On 17 Apr 2011, at 16:13, Marcus Denker wrote: > > The problem is that we can just use the Google tracker, not change it. The tracker itself does not have even trivial support for grouping issues. And *nothing* to > configure the mails it sends. If you really care, do the following: - send all issues to some mail-bot, as I said, thats as simple as having a special user on some server, and a script to process incoming mail - preprocess the mails to your liking - send the processed/filtered mail to the mailing list. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Eliot Miranda

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Hi, > > The tracker generates a mail even for tiny status changes (e.g. 1.3 --> > 1.3-Dev)... "Accepted" to "Fixed"... > > We did the tracker to the main list so people realise that a lot is going > on on the tracker. I guess we accomplished > that mission. > > Now >1000 Mails/Week is too much. > > So I vote for moving the tracker emails to a second list. This way people > can easily subscribe to that. > +1000. I am /so/ fed up of wading through these minor updates. Thank you Marcus! > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > >

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Mmm, I got used to the issues in the list. But new people (like Santiago, who presented himself the other day) got crazy :P. > > Gmail and it's multiple inboxes help me :) > > Maybe we can adopt an issue naming convension with tags like [Pharo-Morphic] [Pharo-Collections], so people can build more intelligent rules to organize their mail clients. The problem is that we can just use the Google tracker, not change it. The tracker itself does not have even trivial support for grouping issues. And *nothing* to configure the mails it sends. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Guillermo Polito

Mmm, I got used to the issues in the list. But new people (like Santiago, who presented himself the other day) got crazy :P. Gmail and it's multiple inboxes help me :) Maybe we can adopt an issue naming convension with tags like [Pharo-Morphic] [Pharo-Collections], so people can build more intelligent rules to organize their mail clients. Guille On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Stefan Marr <pharo(a)stefan-marr.de> wrote: > Hi: > > On 17 Apr 2011, at 15:32, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > The problem is that we use a tracker that we can not change. Google can > just send all emails or none. That's it. > > > > In addition, it does not support sub-projects. So we have just a mess of > 450 issues, instead of sorting them nicely. E.g. to > > > > Collections > > Morphic > > FilesSystem > > O2 > > OB > > > > and then realizing that each in itself has not that many issues... > (devide and conquer *does* work!). > > > > It's always the same: Perfection is something else, but if we do not just > use what we are just stuck. > I use a mailing list user on my server that has a .forward file and does > deliver the mails according to certain criteria to different users or other > mail addresses. > > Just add another indirection to fix/work around the problem ;) > > Best regards > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Marr > Software Languages Lab > Vrije Universiteit Brussel > Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium > http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr > Phone: +32 2 629 2974 > Fax: +32 2 629 3525 > > >

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Stefan Marr

Hi: On 17 Apr 2011, at 15:32, Marcus Denker wrote: > The problem is that we use a tracker that we can not change. Google can just send all emails or none. That's it. > > In addition, it does not support sub-projects. So we have just a mess of 450 issues, instead of sorting them nicely. E.g. to > > Collections > Morphic > FilesSystem > O2 > OB > > and then realizing that each in itself has not that many issues... (devide and conquer *does* work!). > > It's always the same: Perfection is something else, but if we do not just use what we are just stuck. I use a mailing list user on my server that has a .forward file and does deliver the mails according to certain criteria to different users or other mail addresses. Just add another indirection to fix/work around the problem ;) Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Stefan Marr wrote: > Hi: > > On 17 Apr 2011, at 14:47, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The tracker generates a mail even for tiny status changes (e.g. 1.3 --> 1.3-Dev)... "Accepted" to "Fixed"... >> >> We did the tracker to the main list so people realise that a lot is going on on the tracker. I guess we accomplished >> that mission. > Yes, you managed so well, that at least I started to filter them out immediately. > This a 'mission failed' in my book. > > If you still want to make people aware about the issues in the tracker, then you should find a solution that only posts for a new issue are something like that. The problem is that we use a tracker that we can not change. Google can just send all emails or none. That's it. In addition, it does not support sub-projects. So we have just a mess of 450 issues, instead of sorting them nicely. E.g. to Collections Morphic FilesSystem O2 OB and then realizing that each in itself has not that many issues... (devide and conquer *does* work!). It's always the same: Perfection is something else, but if we do not just use what we are just stuck. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Stefan Marr

Hi: On 17 Apr 2011, at 14:47, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > The tracker generates a mail even for tiny status changes (e.g. 1.3 --> 1.3-Dev)... "Accepted" to "Fixed"... > > We did the tracker to the main list so people realise that a lot is going on on the tracker. I guess we accomplished > that mission. Yes, you managed so well, that at least I started to filter them out immediately. This a 'mission failed' in my book. If you still want to make people aware about the issues in the tracker, then you should find a solution that only posts for a new issue are something like that. And well, you have to find a way to convince people like me, that are notoriously lazy, to remove the rule in their mail client... Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

April 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3990 in pharo: 2 dependencies removed from ToolBuilder: PluggableMenuSpec & PluggableMenuItemSpec

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: FixProposed Comment #5 on issue 3990 by Benjamin...(a)gmail.com: 2 dependencies removed from ToolBuilder: PluggableMenuSpec & PluggableMenuItemSpec http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3990 Fixed :) Now the buildWith just call asMenuMorph Attachments: PluggableMenuSpec-buildWith.st 235 bytes

April 17, 2011

[Pharo-project] Moving tracker mails to second list?

by Marcus Denker

Hi, The tracker generates a mail even for tiny status changes (e.g. 1.3 --> 1.3-Dev)... "Accepted" to "Fixed"... We did the tracker to the main list so people realise that a lot is going on on the tracker. I guess we accomplished that mission. Now >1000 Mails/Week is too much. So I vote for moving the tracker emails to a second list. This way people can easily subscribe to that. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 17, 2011