April 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Find and replace doesn't accept with Enter key

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I assume you are referring to the find dialog in OmniBrowser. > >> > > >> > No. I am talking about the Find and Replace of PharoCore. When you are > >> > inside a method and you press CMD + F > >> > >> Maybe the fix is the same? :-) > >> > > > > maybe. Can you point us the OB version so that we can do a diff with the > > previous one and see your fix ? > > Name: OB-Morphic-lr.156 > Author: lr > Time: 6 March 2011, 3:56:14 pm > UUID: bfe6822f-95bb-48ad-a0fc-a9e72a458bc4 > Ancestors: OB-Morphic-lr.155 > > - fixed the highly broken completion dialog > > Thanks Lukas. I checked but it seems (from my newbie view) that it is not the same. You use a PluggableTextMorph, which understands #acceptOnCR: and #autoAccept: The dialog of the "Search and Replace" is a PanelMorph so I have no idea what should I do with it. Thanks anyways, maybe Alain can solve it :) cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better debugging...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > > I'm chasing a strange bug since a couple of hours and what I would love > to have is > > the possibility to change an instance variable into an object that says > stop each time you are changed from this flow. > > > > > > What about a proxy object plus certain logic in the interception that > using thisContext knows whether to stop or to forward to a target object ? > > Yes Mariano. Providing the functionality is easy, indeed. However having a > clean integration in the programming environment is where the difficulty > lays. What button should I add to the debugger to have this? > > hehehe good question. In addition, you should be able to put back the origianl at some point... > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better debugging...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > All Smalltalk (and Java profilers) tells us which method call stack appears > the most during an execution. This is pretty poor. "What are the objects > that makes an execution slow?" and "Which are message arguments responsible > of a slow execution?" are the two questions I will probably work on for the > next two years. We already have some preliminary: > http://www.bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg10aProfiling.pdf > More to come in a few days. > > Same thing for debugging. Why should I see the execution as a bunch of > stack frame? > "How to set a breakpoint based on the object state?" > self haltIf: > "Are all objects responsible for an odd execution or is there just a > particular one?" > This is one of the things I was doing with the "used objects" stuff, where I used a bit (the last one) in the Object Header and I modify the VM to intercept all messages sent to such object and flag it as "used" when they receive a message. So you could do: | results | results := UsedObjectDiscover trace: [ self blah ]. and results understands amountOfUsedObjects, amountOfUnusedObjects, blah You can also query which objects where used for the [ self balh] in this case... > "What is the exact difference of execution if I slightly change a method?" > "If I call #foo it works, if I call #foo2 it does not work. Why? What are > the objects that appears with #foo2 that do not appear with #foo?" > All these questions are essential in my opinion. > > I agree. > Code profiler and code debugger are pretty poor. I can continue with test > code coverage tools. > After all, Computer Science is a pretty young science. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 25 Apr 2011, at 07:34, Craig Latta wrote: > > > > > Hi Alexandre-- > > > >> Debugging, as well as profiling, is a topic that everybody got it > >> wrong. We still debug an application in oo in the same way that > >> people debugged their C program: thinking in term of call stack and > >> stack frame instead of objects. > > > > So tell us more! :) How do you express causality? > > > > > > -C > > > > -- > > Craig Latta > > www.netjam.org/resume > > +31 06 2757 7177 > > + 1 415 287 3547 > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Find and replace doesn't accept with Enter key

by Lukas Renggli

>> >> I assume you are referring to the find dialog in OmniBrowser. >> > >> > No. I am talking about the Find and Replace of PharoCore. When you are >> > inside a method and you press CMD + F >> >> Maybe the fix is the same? :-) >> > > maybe. Can you point us the OB version so that we can do a diff with the > previous one and see your fix ? Name: OB-Morphic-lr.156 Author: lr Time: 6 March 2011, 3:56:14 pm UUID: bfe6822f-95bb-48ad-a0fc-a9e72a458bc4 Ancestors: OB-Morphic-lr.155 - fixed the highly broken completion dialog Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 25, 2011

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2.1 to Pharo 1.2.2

by Miguel CobÃ¡

How will this upgrade path will be handled? In some email of previous week this is mentioned: SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo1.2.2a'. But evaluated in a Pharo 1.2.1 update 12345 starts updating from 12342 and stops on 12345, so I think that is wrong. Evaluating SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo1.2.2a' begin the update from 12346 and stops on 12350 so I think that is the correct one, right? Or should users begin with: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28436/PharoCore-1.2.2a-12345.zip and update from there? (This implies migrate to a new image, not so much a update from 1.2.1 to 1.2.2 but a migration). Thanks in advance. -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] new template for class empty comments for OB

by Alexandre Bergel

I see your point. We need to iterate on what a good template can be. In general, I believe a lot can be extracted from unit test execution that can serve as a good basis for documentation: public, private methods, collaboration, ... Alexandre On 25 Apr 2011, at 03:15, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > >> But this is not incompatible. The IVs may still be listed, >> the template can be adjusted for that > > Yes, this is true and the proposed change takes the IVs into account. > The only problem is that I have to scroll to the bottom in 90% of the > cases as the variables are a couple of pages below the template text. > 90% of the time I am looking for information and then something like > the variable types is at least useful, a two page template is only > "useful" the few times I actually write a comment. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Find and replace doesn't accept with Enter key

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I assume you are referring to the find dialog in OmniBrowser. > > > > No. I am talking about the Find and Replace of PharoCore. When you are > > inside a method and you press CMD + F > > Maybe the fix is the same? :-) > > maybe. Can you point us the OB version so that we can do a diff with the previous one and see your fix ? > > This has > >> been fixed for Pharo 1.2 a long time ago, you just need to take/merge > >> the code from my repository. > > > > yes I know :) > > Now ConfigurationOfOmnibrowser has you very latest versions and it is all > > working great :) > > Great. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 25, 2011

[Pharo-project] Glamour theme

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Doru, Just wondering whether you have tried to remove the black border of each windows. I indeed like to not have it around button, scrollbar. Why not windows? I have the impression what the window color has to slightly change when not in foreground. I like the theme, even if I am more rounded than squared :-) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Find and replace doesn't accept with Enter key

by Lukas Renggli

>> I assume you are referring to the find dialog in OmniBrowser. > > No. I am talking about the Find and Replace of PharoCore. When you are > inside a method and you press CMD + F Maybe the fix is the same? :-) > This has >> been fixed for Pharo 1.2 a long time ago, you just need to take/merge >> the code from my repository. > > yes I know :) > Now ConfigurationOfOmnibrowser has you very latest versions and it is all > working great :) Great. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better debugging...

by Alexandre Bergel

> I'm chasing a strange bug since a couple of hours and what I would love to have is > the possibility to change an instance variable into an object that says stop each time you are changed from this flow. > > > What about a proxy object plus certain logic in the interception that using thisContext knows whether to stop or to forward to a target object ? Yes Mariano. Providing the functionality is easy, indeed. However having a clean integration in the programming environment is where the difficulty lays. What button should I add to the debugger to have this? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 25, 2011