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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

by laurent laffont

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > > On 04 Apr 2011, at 16:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > >> > >> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization. > >> > >> So we poor users have to do all the work ?? > >> > >> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the > changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ? > >> > >> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes > and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights. > >> > > > > Mariano started a list: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo > > > > All things done should have a tracker entry: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2 > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage > > OK, I will start reading through these lists and compare with what was > written about the previous releases and see if I can come up with something > by tomorrow. > I will translate for the French announcement. Laurent. > > Sven > > >

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 04 Apr 2011, at 16:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization. >> >> So we poor users have to do all the work ?? >> >> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ? >> >> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights. >> > > Mariano started a list: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo > > All things done should have a tracker entry: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2 > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage OK, I will start reading through these lists and compare with what was written about the previous releases and see if I can come up with something by tomorrow. Sven

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [SPAM] Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization. > > So we poor users have to do all the work ?? > > Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ? > > From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights. > Mariano started a list: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo All things done should have a tracker entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3954 in pharo: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: WontFix Comment #3 on issue 3954 by Benjamin...(a)gmail.com: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3954 (No comment was entered for this change.)

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3954 in pharo: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #2 on issue 3954 by Benjamin...(a)gmail.com: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3954 OK, let's move it into Nautilus

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [SPAM] Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization. So we poor users have to do all the work ?? Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ? >From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights. Maybe we could also run metrics on both if that would yield something useful ? Sven

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Transcript rant

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 4, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Toon Verwaest wrote: > On 04/04/2011 03:55 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> +1 for both of Igor's mails! >>>> Why? this is really important to have threadsafe transcript and it is good to have a look at >>>> what juan did. >>>> >>>> We should be able to use a transcript even without morph. >>> It's that exactly what Igor was fighting for? >> ah ok this was totally unclear. > I don't know the implementation, nor the old nor the new. I just read his email and thought it made a lot of sense. > > For example where he lost you, he's just saying that it shouldn't matter if the transcript is something that is showing something in a window in the image, or if it's streaming the data to some external client somewhere. The API should just be the writestream API where it's used, independent of how it's being viewed by the second user who is reading the output printed on the transcript. I agree on that :) > It sounds like at the moment it's mixed and the user can also start reading from the transcript... that seems wrong since the data might have been sent over the wire; thus being gone and not available anymore in the transcript. Viewing the transcript is something totally different than writing to it. Thanks. > > cheers, > Toon >

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3954 in pharo: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #1 on issue 3954 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: SystemNavigation use BrowserEnvironment as Refactoring and Nautilus http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3954 I do not like your change :). We cannot do that because we should bind SystemNavigation with BrowserEnvironment. What should be done is that when the SystemNavigation is used we should pass an enviroment when you need it in Nautilus just use on: BrowserEnvironment new. Does it make sense?

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Transcript rant

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

So how do we fix it? I mean that we can use transcript in headless. Stef

April 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Transcript rant

by Toon Verwaest

On 04/04/2011 03:55 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> +1 for both of Igor's mails! >>> Why? this is really important to have threadsafe transcript and it is good to have a look at >>> what juan did. >>> >>> We should be able to use a transcript even without morph. >> It's that exactly what Igor was fighting for? > ah ok this was totally unclear. I don't know the implementation, nor the old nor the new. I just read his email and thought it made a lot of sense. For example where he lost you, he's just saying that it shouldn't matter if the transcript is something that is showing something in a window in the image, or if it's streaming the data to some external client somewhere. The API should just be the writestream API where it's used, independent of how it's being viewed by the second user who is reading the output printed on the transcript. It sounds like at the moment it's mixed and the user can also start reading from the transcript... that seems wrong since the data might have been sent over the wire; thus being gone and not available anymore in the transcript. Viewing the transcript is something totally different than writing to it. cheers, Toon

April 4, 2011