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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Last pending things for Pharo 1.2

by Casimiro de Almeida Barreto

Em 05-04-2011 18:05, Mariano Martinez Peck escreveu: > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr > <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com <mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> So....here is the list of things I guess are pending: >> > > > In general, for all pending things adding entries in the bug > tracker is the only way ti make sure they are not forgotten. > >> 1) "Release" all configurations included in Pharo (this is, >> ConfigurationOfPharo and all it dependencies). I mean, we >> should NOT use or depend on #development versions. >> >> >> so...can someone check this is done? GUillermo and me did it >> once...but it seems a lot of stuff was updated once again > > I just gave up and took the image yesterday. Like you did for 1.1: > Just build it once, don't care that it is repeatable. > > > Sorry, I didn't understand. The Pharo 1.1 was repeatable (in the same > core) since all the Metacello versions were frozen. > > > >> >> >> 2) Update the one click image to use latest cog images and >> "pharo prepared vms". There are some issues regarding this... >> >> >> Marcus, which is the status of this one ? > > I updated the one-click image with the last cog VM. > > For the one-click, it is identical to 1.1 with the only change > that I put the windows VM I got from Torsten. > > > > But 1.1 was not-Cog (Cog 1.1.1 was cog). So...we are shipping the > Pharo One Click 1.2 with the Interpreter VM instead of Cog ? > or did you mean 1.1.1 ? if so, it would be good to update to latest > Cog. The cog version used for 1.1.1 had several problems (I think the > run:with:in: crashes the image -> TestCoverage) In linux (Fedora 14) when using diacritics '`~^", cog messes inputs (at least pt_BR) and fail to interpret properly keyboard entries (like Ã¡Ã©ÃÃ³ÃºÃ Ã£ÃµÃ¢Ãª, etc). Thus typing ' + a won't give Ã¡ but a? It's not a pharo problem but it's cog one. I suggest traditional vm is hold in use while cog don't address these input methods problem. > > >> >> >> 3) Write down all the things/summary done in Pharo 1.2 >> >> >> consider as done in nobody else comes with something better, >> >> >> 5) Update SystemVersion current -->> Pharo1.2rc2 of 27 >> January 2011 update 12340 >> >> >> >> SystemVersion current ->> Pharo1.2.1 of 2 April 2011 update 12345 >> >> so..it is ok, isn't it ? can we forget this item ? >> >> >> 6) Condense sources? condense changes? #cleanUpForRelease >> > >> Marcus, is that necessary ? >> >> DEVImageCreator >> cleanUps >> >> ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. >> "In Pharo 1.1 condenseChanges is VERY slow because of the new >> method trailers. So condensingChanges each time even when it is >> not needed is not a good idea anymore. So in case a >> condenseChanges is needed it should be done explicitly. >> Smalltalk condenseChanges." >> Smalltalk garbageCollect. >> >> I did that and I put that comment. Now that they are faster and >> that we have Hudson, should I put back the Smalltalk >> condenseChanges ? is there anything else needed? do we need a >> condenseSources ? >> > > > CondenseChange and CondenseSource is broken right now. > > > Ok, we can live withoput that :) > > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > <http://www.marcusdenker.de/> > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Last pending things for Pharo 1.2

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I just gave up and took the image yesterday. Like you did for 1.1: Just build it once, don't care that it is repeatable. > > Sorry, I didn't understand. The Pharo 1.1 was repeatable (in the same core) since all the Metacello versions were frozen. > In 1.2 seemingly not, it changes by the phase of the moon what is loaded. Yes... someone needs to look at that. Somone needed to look at that for months. At the same time, 1.3 does not even had a build *ever*. > >> >> 2) Update the one click image to use latest cog images and "pharo prepared vms". There are some issues regarding this... >> > >> Marcus, which is the status of this one ? > > I updated the one-click image with the last cog VM. > > For the one-click, it is identical to 1.1 with the only change that I put the windows VM I got from Torsten. > > > But 1.1 was not-Cog (Cog 1.1.1 was cog). So...we are shipping the Pharo One Click 1.2 with the Interpreter VM instead of Cog ? > or did you mean 1.1.1 ? if so, it would be good to update to latest Cog. The cog version used for 1.1.1 had several problems (I think the run:with:in: crashes the image -> TestCoverage) > I updated the cog One-Click to the latest Cog vm released last week. Yes, we need to have everthing build by Hudson automatically... but on the other hand, we need to release and not postpone forever. We had 3 Months to fix everything, we did not, we would not fix in another 3 months. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Last pending things for Pharo 1.2

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> So....here is the list of things I guess are pending: >> >> > > In general, for all pending things adding entries in the bug tracker is the > only way ti make sure they are not forgotten. > > 1) "Release" all configurations included in Pharo (this is, >> ConfigurationOfPharo and all it dependencies). I mean, we should NOT use or >> depend on #development versions. >> > > so...can someone check this is done? GUillermo and me did it once...but it > seems a lot of stuff was updated once again > > > I just gave up and took the image yesterday. Like you did for 1.1: Just > build it once, don't care that it is repeatable. > Sorry, I didn't understand. The Pharo 1.1 was repeatable (in the same core) since all the Metacello versions were frozen. > > > >> 2) Update the one click image to use latest cog images and "pharo prepared >> vms". There are some issues regarding this... >> > > Marcus, which is the status of this one ? > > > I updated the one-click image with the last cog VM. > > For the one-click, it is identical to 1.1 with the only change that I put > the windows VM I got from Torsten. > But 1.1 was not-Cog (Cog 1.1.1 was cog). So...we are shipping the Pharo One Click 1.2 with the Interpreter VM instead of Cog ? or did you mean 1.1.1 ? if so, it would be good to update to latest Cog. The cog version used for 1.1.1 had several problems (I think the run:with:in: crashes the image -> TestCoverage) > > >> 3) Write down all the things/summary done in Pharo 1.2 >> > > consider as done in nobody else comes with something better, > > >> 5) Update SystemVersion current -->> Pharo1.2rc2 of 27 January 2011 >> update 12340 >> > > > SystemVersion current ->> Pharo1.2.1 of 2 April 2011 update 12345 > > so..it is ok, isn't it ? can we forget this item ? > > >> 6) Condense sources? condense changes? #cleanUpForRelease >> >> > Marcus, is that necessary ? > > DEVImageCreator >> cleanUps > > ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. > "In Pharo 1.1 condenseChanges is VERY slow because of the new method > trailers. So condensingChanges each time even when it is not needed is not a > good idea anymore. So in case a condenseChanges is needed it should be done > explicitly. > Smalltalk condenseChanges." > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > I did that and I put that comment. Now that they are faster and that we > have Hudson, should I put back the Smalltalk condenseChanges ? is there > anything else needed? do we need a condenseSources ? > > > > CondenseChange and CondenseSource is broken right now. > > Ok, we can live withoput that :) > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3831 in pharo: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #6 on issue 3831 by marianopeck: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3831 sorry I meant in version12beta2:

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

by Adrian Lienhard

ok, I fixed the text. Adrian On Apr 5, 2011, at 22:38 , Marcus Denker wrote: > Therefore, this is not correct: > > Pharo 1.2.1 One-Click is the easiest to get started: it includes all needed components (image, change and source file as well as a fast, compatible Cog VM) in one package that requires no installation > > the linked image does not use Cog. > > > Marcus

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Actions done in 1.3

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Yes!!! totally agree. Now that we release 1.2, I would freeze and release PharoCore 1.3 beta. Update the link to stable pharo to that, and start trying to load the dev tools there. Cheers Mariano On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:10 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi guys > > > > to help us in the future I started > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotThree > > > > The list starts to get long... > > Maybe we should do a 1.3 release soon... > > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3831 in pharo: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #5 on issue 3831 by marianopeck: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3831 In ConfigurationOfPharo >> version13beta1: you have: package: 'ImageForDevelopers' with: 'ImageForDevelopers-pharo-MarcusDenker.254'; but your change to remove the O2 was to ImageForDevelopers-pharo-MarcusDenker.255 Cheers Mariano

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote: > > > I suggest some corrections at: "DEVImageWorkspaces > > openExternalProjectWorkspace". > > > > O2 does not install according to instructions and installing it other > > ways result in error. > > Aida has pending dependencies (Swazoo, I guess because Seaside installs > > Swazoo2) > > etc. > > > > I removed the O2 description!!!!! > > I removed it, waited for Hudson to build the release, downloaded, checked, > and it was gone. > > There is even a tracker entry: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3831 > > So now why in the world is it there now? > > I think we should really find someone else for managing the Full image > build scripts. > I am definitly to dumb to get anything to work. > In ConfigurationOfPharo >> version13beta1: you have: package: 'ImageForDevelopers' with: 'ImageForDevelopers-pharo-MarcusDenker.254'; but your change to remove the O2 was to ImageForDevelopers-pharo-MarcusDenker.255 Cheers Mariano > > Marcus > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3831 in pharo: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Accepted Labels: -Milestone-1.2-DevImage Milestone-1.2.2-DevImage Comment #4 on issue 3831 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: 1.2 full image workspace has description on how to load O2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3831 It magically is there again.

April 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Actions done in 1.3

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:10 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > to help us in the future I started > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotThree > > The list starts to get long... Maybe we should do a 1.3 release soon... -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 5, 2011