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Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+ 1 >>> - Adrian, Jorge and Toon worked on implementing a Debugger on top of >>> Glamour. They got a first version working that is able to do basic actions: >>> step, restart, step into. The challenge was to get to understand the model, >>> and to figure out that <primitive: 19> is used for marking that a method >>> should not be debugged. In any case, working with Glamour seemed to work >>> quite smoothly. The code is available in the Glamorous Toolkit. Adrian, did >>> I get it right? :) >>> >> >> Nick in CC worked a lot to understand the model part of the Debugger. >> He has worked on a remote debugger. >> @Nick, you should have a look probably at this implementation of a debugger >> in Glamour. >> AFAICR the Debugger code really mixes the model, the GUI, the Debugees, ... >> so perhaps you can all join forces and propose a cleaner and extensible >> debugger ;-) > > Indeed, an independent model would make a lot of sense. Since the original logic is mixed with the GUI code, we just copied parts of it over to our new prototype. By factoring this out into an independent model we would not end up multiple copies for the original debugger, the Glomour debugger, the OB debugger, the remote debugger etc. > > Adrian

March 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] More on Keymappings

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I am very interested to get Keymapping integrated into Glamour. Could someone help me to load it? I tried: - in Pharo 1.2: Gofer it squeaksource: 'Keymapping'; package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; load. (ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: #stable) load - in Pharo 1.3: Gofer it squeaksource: 'Keymapping'; package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; load. (ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: '1.5') load Cheers, Doru On 27 Feb 2011, at 09:59, Tudor Girba wrote: > I also I cannot load Keymapping 1.5 in Pharo 1.2. I get DNU for Character>>+. This is due to an initialization in KMKeyEvent (see the attached debug log). > > I did the followings: > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'Keymapping'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; > load. > > (ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: #stable) load > > Am I missing something, or is this version not supposed to work in Pharo 1.2? > > Cheers, > Doru > > <PharoDebug.log> > > > On 26 Feb 2011, at 21:08, Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza wrote: > >> You're telling me that if i do a clean installation of 1.5 it would work? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Francisco >> >> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Guillermo Polito >> <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Mmm, If you had 1.4 and updated to 1.5, you will have some problems because >>> I did some refactorings on that... :/. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza >>> <patchinko(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Guille i was using 1.4 and worked excellent, just tried 1.5 and on >>>> every stroke i made i've got a DNU on #realtarget >>>> >>>> Installed on last PharoCore 1.2, should i try it on 1.3? >>>> >>>> Great work, >>>> Fran >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, laurent laffont >>>> <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Guillermo Polito >>>>> <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What do we have now? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Can provide settings for a set of morphs >>>>>> >>>>>> - Can provide settings for a TextEditors (Smalltalk editor and related) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Settings integration >>>>>> I added some methods to the Settings Tree Builder in order to avoid >>>>>> references from the users code. >>>>>> >>>>>> - I ran Slint over it and cleaned it a lot more :). ( And learnt that >>>>>> Slint is there :P ) >>>>>> >>>>>> More info in here: http://guilleel3.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> A new blog, cool ! >>>>> Can I have Emacs-like keybinding in code editor, to switch browser, ... >>>>> ? >>>>> Laurent. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Guille >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow." > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing should have the right to be different."

March 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Is it possible to setup Russian fonts in Pharo + Cog VM?

by Geert Claes

Dennis Schetinin wrote: > > Yes, it works. Thank you! > Great! Dennis, this is probably information more people would want to know so could you put together a little how-to and share it on the Russian forum? ps. Does info like this need to go into http://book.pharo-project.org somewhere? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Is-it-possible-to-setup-Russian-fonts-in-Pharo-Cog-VM… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Is it possible to setup Russian fonts in Pharo + Cog VM?

by Dennis Schetinin

Yes, it works. Thank you! 2011/3/2 Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> > > Eliot Miranda-2 wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Dennis Schetinin wrote: > > > >> AFAIK, Cog VM does not allow to use system fonts. > > > > > > What makes you think that? Cog should be the same as the standard VM. > At > > Teleplace, for example, they use Cog with the NativeFontPlugin without > > problems. > > > > > >> But still, is there a way to install fonts (of any type) with support > for > >> Russian symbols? â¦ Better without too much efforts like manually > >> assigning > >> offsets for each character :) > >> > > > > What's the way to do this on the standard VM and how does this approach > > fail > > on the Cog VM? > > > > best, > > Eliot > > > > > >> -- > >> Dennis Schetinin > >> > > > > The standard VM includes FT2Plugin by default, the Cog VM does not. > In a Pharo image, that is what loads the system fonts when you click > Settings -> Appearance -> Standard Fonts -> Update fonts from System. > > I've never heard of NativeFontPlugin before, is it something new? > > Cheers, > Henry > > PS. At least on Mac, you can copy over the plugin from a normal VM, and it > will work with Cog. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Is-it-possible-to-setup-Russian-fonts-in-Pharo-Cog-VM… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Dennis Schetinin

March 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] COG VM and Locale

by Eliot Miranda

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 02/03/2011 18:23, Eliot Miranda a Ã©crit : > > > Run under gdb. Things to check: there could be an unresolved reference > > which causes it to fail to load. See "Testing an external plugin has > > completely linked" in > > http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/unixbuild/HowToBuild. > > If it loads, put a breakpoint in initialiseModule and step through it. > > Building a debug VM can help in debugging (again see HowToBuild) > > > > Not sure I got it right, but I have unreferenced symbols warning > following the step above: > I think you can ignore these because they come from libc, not form the plugin. Since you see the plugin loaded above I *think* you know there's no undefined symbol in the plugin. I think the below is some mysterious internal glibc detail that always gets warned about. > > bash-3.2# /bin/sh /home/olpc/COG/unixbuild/bld/libtool --mode=link gcc > -Wl,--warn-unresolved-symbols -Wl,--no-allow-shlib-undefined -g -O2 > -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG -DITIMER_HEARTBEAT=1 -DNO_VM_PROFILE=1 > -DCOGMTVM=0 -DDEBUGVM=0 -msse -DLSB_FIRST=1 -avoid-version -module > -rpath /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-7 -o LocalePlugin.la LocalePlugin.lo > sqUnixLocale.lo > rm -fr .libs/LocalePlugin.la .libs/LocalePlugin.* .libs/LocalePlugin.* > gcc -shared LocalePlugin.lo sqUnixLocale.lo > -Wl,--warn-unresolved-symbols -Wl,--no-allow-shlib-undefined -Wl,-soname > -Wl,LocalePlugin -o .libs/LocalePlugin > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `__libc_stack_end(a)GLIBC_2.1 > ' > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `_dl_argv@GLIBC_PRIVATE' > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to > `_rtld_global_ro@GLIBC_PRIVATE' > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `___tls_get_addr(a)GLIBC_2.3 > ' > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `_rtld_global@GLIBC_PRIVATE > ' > /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to > `__libc_enable_secure@GLIBC_PRIVATE' > creating LocalePlugin.la > (cd .libs && rm -f LocalePlugin.la && ln -s ../LocalePlugin.la > LocalePlugin.la) > > > > > > >

March 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: [squeak-dev] another blog post

by David T. Lewis

On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:00:26PM -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote: > > Eliot Miranda wrote: > >Hi All, > > > > I've finally published an in-depth blog post on inline cacheing > ><http://www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog/2011/03/01/build-me-a-jit-as-fast-as-yo…> > >in the Cog JIT. > > > >best > >Eliot > > Thanks Eliot! This is great for the community, even if the number of > people who will study the details is small. It is very well written and easy to read, so I suspect that quite a few people will read it and learn a lot from this post. Thank you Eliot! Dave

March 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] COG VM and Locale

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 02/03/2011 18:23, Eliot Miranda a Ã©crit : > Run under gdb. Things to check: there could be an unresolved reference > which causes it to fail to load. See "Testing an external plugin has > completely linked" in > http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/unixbuild/HowToBuild. > If it loads, put a breakpoint in initialiseModule and step through it. > Building a debug VM can help in debugging (again see HowToBuild) Not sure I got it right, but I have unreferenced symbols warning following the step above: bash-3.2# /bin/sh /home/olpc/COG/unixbuild/bld/libtool --mode=link gcc -Wl,--warn-unresolved-symbols -Wl,--no-allow-shlib-undefined -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG -DITIMER_HEARTBEAT=1 -DNO_VM_PROFILE=1 -DCOGMTVM=0 -DDEBUGVM=0 -msse -DLSB_FIRST=1 -avoid-version -module -rpath /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-7 -o LocalePlugin.la LocalePlugin.lo sqUnixLocale.lo rm -fr .libs/LocalePlugin.la .libs/LocalePlugin.* .libs/LocalePlugin.* gcc -shared LocalePlugin.lo sqUnixLocale.lo -Wl,--warn-unresolved-symbols -Wl,--no-allow-shlib-undefined -Wl,-soname -Wl,LocalePlugin -o .libs/LocalePlugin /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `__libc_stack_end(a)GLIBC_2.1' /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `_dl_argv@GLIBC_PRIVATE' /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `_rtld_global_ro@GLIBC_PRIVATE' /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `___tls_get_addr(a)GLIBC_2.3' /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `_rtld_global@GLIBC_PRIVATE' /lib/libc.so.6: warning: undefined reference to `__libc_enable_secure@GLIBC_PRIVATE' creating LocalePlugin.la (cd .libs && rm -f LocalePlugin.la && ln -s ../LocalePlugin.la LocalePlugin.la)

March 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] COG VM and Locale

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 02/03/2011 18:23, Eliot Miranda a Ã©crit : > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Hilaire Fernandes > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com > <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I am still willing to get Locale working with the combination of COG VM > and Pharo. especially to make a version of DrGeo for the XO laptop where > the CPU is subminimal, it brings a big usability improvement for the > kids. > But so far, the locale plugin does not work, any clue? > > > Run under gdb. Things to check: there could be an unresolved reference Hum, remember the good old unpleasant time with DrGeo C++ and debugging with GDB. > which causes it to fail to load. See "Testing an external plugin has > completely linked" in Nevertheless it looks like the plugin is loaded as: Smalltalk listLoadedModules. #('SocketPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'Matrix2x3Plugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'FloatArrayPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'JPEGReadWriter2Plugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'DropPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'B2DPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'ZipPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'LargeIntegers v1.5 VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'LocalePlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (e)' 'BitBltPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'SecurityPlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'FilePlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)' 'MiscPrimitivePlugin VMMaker-oscog.40 (i)') > http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/unixbuild/HowToBuild. > If it loads, put a breakpoint in initialiseModule and step through it. > Building a debug VM can help in debugging (again see HowToBuild) I will try this Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

March 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Adrian Lienhard

On Mar 2, 2011, at 20:33 , Luc Fabresse wrote: >> - Adrian, Jorge and Toon worked on implementing a Debugger on top of >> Glamour. They got a first version working that is able to do basic actions: >> step, restart, step into. The challenge was to get to understand the model, >> and to figure out that <primitive: 19> is used for marking that a method >> should not be debugged. In any case, working with Glamour seemed to work >> quite smoothly. The code is available in the Glamorous Toolkit. Adrian, did >> I get it right? :) >> > > Nick in CC worked a lot to understand the model part of the Debugger. > He has worked on a remote debugger. > @Nick, you should have a look probably at this implementation of a debugger > in Glamour. > AFAICR the Debugger code really mixes the model, the GUI, the Debugees, ... > so perhaps you can all join forces and propose a cleaner and extensible > debugger ;-) Indeed, an independent model would make a lot of sense. Since the original logic is mixed with the GUI code, we just copied parts of it over to our new prototype. By factoring this out into an independent model we would not end up multiple copies for the original debugger, the Glomour debugger, the OB debugger, the remote debugger etc. Adrian

March 2, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Luc Fabresse

Hi, 2011/2/26 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > The sprint was quite exciting. > > Here is the twitter report: > http://twitter.com/#!/search/pharosprint > > Here is a longer report: > > - Adrian, Jorge and Toon worked on implementing a Debugger on top of > Glamour. They got a first version working that is able to do basic actions: > step, restart, step into. The challenge was to get to understand the model, > and to figure out that <primitive: 19> is used for marking that a method > should not be debugged. In any case, working with Glamour seemed to work > quite smoothly. The code is available in the Glamorous Toolkit. Adrian, did > I get it right? :) > Nick in CC worked a lot to understand the model part of the Debugger. He has worked on a remote debugger. @Nick, you should have a look probably at this implementation of a debugger in Glamour. AFAICR the Debugger code really mixes the model, the GUI, the Debugees, ... so perhaps you can all join forces and propose a cleaner and extensible debugger ;-) Cheers, #Luc - Mircea built a new widget for searching multiple categories of items in > the same time, similar to spotlight where you enter one string and you get > multiple hits from multiple categories. The implementation was spawned from > the OBCompletionDialog / OBCompletionRequest and currently it simply > provides multiple lists one below the other. The idea is to use this kind of > widget to search simultaneously for classes / methods / packages. The code > is available in Glamour (Glamour-Morphic-Renderer). The widget can > definitely be improved visually, but Mircea already did a nice job. > > - I showed the current prototypes available in the Glamorous Toolkit (built > with Glamour). It looks like we got a consensus that we should focus on > rethinking the IDEs, and that Glamour can be a promising infrastructure. For > this to work, we distinguished between the work needed at the widget level > (like the work of Mircea and Camillo), and the work needed at the level of > playing with new metaphors for browsing. The Glamorous Toolkit already > provides a number of examples for: ObjectFinder, Chaser, Playground > (ex-Workspace), MessageTallyBrowser, ProfStef, and some Coders. If you want > to play with the early versions of these tools, you can get them here (just > keep in mind that they are intended as exercises at the moment): > Gofer new squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 26 Feb 2011, at 19:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > so doru I just arrived after a trip from the nearly "westernest" town in > france to nearly the "northest" one :) > > What are the results of the sprint. > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > > >> We are starting the sprint: > >> - Twitter tag: #pharosprint > >> - If someone wants to join remotely, let us know how to reach you. Gary, > Alain? :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:39, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> > >>> Phenomenal :) > >>> > >>> Doru > >>> > >>> > >>> On 24 Feb 2011, at 13:03, Jorge Ressia wrote: > >>> > >>>> I will be there too. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> Excellent. > >>>>> > >>>>> Doru > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 23 Feb 2011, at 22:29, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am coming too. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lukas > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 23 February 2011 05:27, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>> Great. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Doru > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2011, at 19:47, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'll be there. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From what I have done this week so far, I would like to work on > extending the IDE and reduce the amount of clicks / keystrokes to browse > things... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> m(o_o)m > >>>>>>>> camillo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2011-02-21, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would like to remind you that this Saturday, February 26, we > organize a Sprint at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > >>>>>>>>> http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Further details can be found below. Please let us know by mail if > you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>> Doru > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> Date: 1 February 2011 16:38:30 CET > >>>>>>>>>> To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" < > pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Adrian Lienhard <alienhard(a)netstyle.ch> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February > 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > >>>>>>>>>> http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from > the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation > around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and > the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring > them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a > specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest > will come in time. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what > you would wish to work on (see below). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): > >>>>>>>>>> - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: > >>>>>>>>>> --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow > handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) > >>>>>>>>>> --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input > of Gary) > >>>>>>>>>> --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in > Spotlight) > >>>>>>>>>> --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow > for space filling > >>>>>>>>>> --- BreadcrumbMorph > >>>>>>>>>> --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs > >>>>>>>>>> - Test and enhance the current IDE > >>>>>>>>>> - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, > SMxPluggableTextMorph etc > >>>>>>>>>> - Prototype a new ToolSet solution > >>>>>>>>>> - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit > >>>>>>>>>> --- Debugger > >>>>>>>>>> --- Coder > >>>>>>>>>> --- Multipage Workspace > >>>>>>>>>> --- CodeBubbles > >>>>>>>>>> - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of > Lukas) > >>>>>>>>>> - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations > >>>>>>>>>> - Evaluate ToolBuilder > >>>>>>>>>> - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this > will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>> Adrian and Doru > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Value is always contextual." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>>> > >>>>> "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at > them." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jorge Ressia > >>>> www.jorgeressia.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>> > >>> "Yesterday is a fact. > >>> Tomorrow is a possibility. > >>> Today is a challenge." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." > > >

March 2, 2011