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Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by Gary Chambers

Well, a full libc FFI wrapper would be useful... Something that pretty much any other language provides out-of-the-box. Something familiar for developers that are new to our community perhaps. By wrapper, that being more than just stubs to the low-level calls. It is evil, but needs must... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts On 29 March 2011 18:35, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> I expect it will be tricky to synchronise our schedules... > > Could you start by telling me when it's easy for you ? I am available :) I just need some guidance from a guy from needs some specific functionality, and i can implement that. Because for me it is not really a problem to write binding to anything.. the problem is to find real users for it :) > Laurent. >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: laurent laffont >> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >> open-sourceSmalltalk >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:03 AM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts >> Hi, >> Actually I'm training remotely a developer on Pharo using Skype and >> TeamViewer. This guy records all sessions for its own purpose and I like >> the >> idea. >> For PharoCasts I would like to record 30mn to 1 hour sessions (as I know >> you don't have time) with an expert who shows us real code, explaining a >> framework / programming style / pattern while programming some examples >> (in >> the spirit of PharoCasts, and may be >> http://forum.world.st/Screencast-proposition-Watch-someone-read-code-td3244… >> ). >> Right now I'm thinking about: >> - Mariano on DBXTalk >> - Gary on Polymorph >> - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing >> with http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) >> - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser >> - Dale on Metacello >> - Nicolas on Iliad >> - Janko on Aida/Web >> and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their >> open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. >> >> How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an >> hour >> that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, >> google >> video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. Just >> talk and code :) >> >> Anyone ? >> >> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs >> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by Igor Stasenko

On 29 March 2011 18:35, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> I expect it will be tricky to synchronise our schedules... > > Could you start by telling me when it's easy for you ? I am available :) I just need some guidance from a guy from needs some specific functionality, and i can implement that. Because for me it is not really a problem to write binding to anything.. the problem is to find real users for it :) > Laurent. >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: laurent laffont >> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >> open-sourceSmalltalk >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:03 AM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts >> Hi, >> Actually I'm training remotely a developer on Pharo using Skype and >> TeamViewer. This guy records all sessions for its own purpose and I like the >> idea. >> For PharoCasts I would like to record 30mn to 1 hour sessions (as I know >> you don't have time) with an expert who shows us real code, explaining a >> framework / programming style / pattern while programming some examples (in >> the spirit of PharoCasts, and may be >> http://forum.world.st/Screencast-proposition-Watch-someone-read-code-td3244… >> ). >> Right now I'm thinking about: >> - Mariano on DBXTalk >> - Gary on Polymorph >> - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing >> withÂ http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) >> - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser >> - Dale on Metacello >> - Nicolas on Iliad >> - Janko on Aida/Web >> and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their >> open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. >> >> How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an hour >> that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, google >> video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. Just >> talk and code :) >> >> Anyone ? >> >> Laurent Laffont -Â @lolgzs >> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>wrote: > I expect it will be tricky to synchronise our schedules... > Could you start by telling me when it's easy for you ? Laurent. Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > *To:* An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an > open-sourceSmalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 8:03 AM > *Subject:* [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts > > Hi, > > Actually I'm training remotely a developer on Pharo using Skype and > TeamViewer. This guy records all sessions for its own purpose and I like the > idea. > > For PharoCasts I would like to record 30mn to 1 hour sessions (as I know > you don't have time) with an expert who shows us real code, explaining a > framework / programming style / pattern while programming some examples (in > the spirit of PharoCasts, and may be > http://forum.world.st/Screencast-proposition-Watch-someone-read-code-td3244…) > > Right now I'm thinking about: > - Mariano on DBXTalk > - Gary on Polymorph > - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing with > http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) > - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser > - Dale on Metacello > - Nicolas on Iliad > - Janko on Aida/Web > > and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their > open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. > > > How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an hour > that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, google > video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. Just > talk and code :) > > > Anyone ? > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > >

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by Gary Chambers

I expect it will be tricky to synchronise our schedules... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: laurent laffont To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:03 AM Subject: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts Hi, Actually I'm training remotely a developer on Pharo using Skype and TeamViewer. This guy records all sessions for its own purpose and I like the idea. For PharoCasts I would like to record 30mn to 1 hour sessions (as I know you don't have time) with an expert who shows us real code, explaining a framework / programming style / pattern while programming some examples (in the spirit of PharoCasts, and may be http://forum.world.st/Screencast-proposition-Watch-someone-read-code-td3244… ). Right now I'm thinking about: - Mariano on DBXTalk - Gary on Polymorph - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing with http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser - Dale on Metacello - Nicolas on Iliad - Janko on Aida/Web and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an hour that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, google video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. Just talk and code :) Anyone ? Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 March 2011 07:58, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing > >> > with http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) > >> > >> this lib is a C++.. interfacing with C++ is troublesome. > >> Usually this is done by creating a standard C library with C- > >> functions wrapping around > >> C++ calls. Then as usual. > > > > > > OK. I've tried FFI with this and I got mad. Do you know a fun C library > to > > start working with ? > > Yeah.. i have one.. called OpenGL :) > See > http://www.squeaksource.com/NBOpenGL > > But for exercise, i think standard C library is just fine. > There's a lot of functionality which might be handy and can be exposed via > FFI. > And do you have one hour for a session with me next week in the evening ? Or maybe tomorrow 12h30 - 13h30 ( Stef did not answer) ? Laurent. > > > Laurent. > > > >> > >> > - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser > >> > - Dale on Metacello > >> > - Nicolas on Iliad > >> > - Janko on Aida/Web > >> > and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their > >> > open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. > >> > > >> > How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an > >> > hour > >> > that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, > >> > google > >> > video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. > Just > >> > talk and code :) > >> > > >> > Anyone ? > >> > > >> > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > >> > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > >> > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > >> > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts

by Gary Chambers

Lol. Just to mention that we have been having problems (VM crashes/lockups) with OSProcess, using FFI to callout to libc for executing shell command has seemed to help this. Looked like memory corruption (especially targetting Delay objects, but likely they were on the stack at the time...). Occurs on all VMs, though more apprent with Cog. FFI saves the day! Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> To: "laurent laffont" <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> Cc: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] PharoCasts with experts On 29 March 2011 07:58, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > - Igor on VM debugging or FFI / NativeBoost (for example interfacing >> > with http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ or other lib) >> >> this lib is a C++.. interfacing with C++ is troublesome. >> Usually this is done by creating a standard C library with C- >> functions wrapping around >> C++ calls. Then as usual. > > > OK. I've tried FFI with this and I got mad. Do you know a fun C library to > start working with ? Yeah.. i have one.. called OpenGL :) See http://www.squeaksource.com/NBOpenGL But for exercise, i think standard C library is just fine. There's a lot of functionality which might be handy and can be exposed via FFI. > Laurent. > >> >> > - Lukas on Magritte or PetitParser >> > - Dale on Metacello >> > - Nicolas on Iliad >> > - Janko on Aida/Web >> > and all that I forgot ..... I'm sure plenty of people would like their >> > open-source project to be more known. This may be an opportunity. >> > >> > How to do this: contact me if you wish to do that so we can choose an >> > hour >> > that match our respective calendars and agree on tools used (skype, >> > google >> > video chat, vnc, teamviewer, ....) - I will care about video stuff. >> > Just >> > talk and code :) >> > >> > Anyone ? >> > >> > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs >> > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >> > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 29, 2011

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13117

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

13117 ----- - Issue 3908: Fix for pool variables references. Thanks Igor Stasenko. - Issue 3907: SystemNavigation doesn t display the name of the selector when it asks for method removal. Thanks Benjamin Ryseghem. Stef

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3907 in pharo: SystemNavigation doesn't display the name of the selector when it asks for method removal

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 3907 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: SystemNavigation doesn't display the name of the selector when it asks for method removal http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3907 in 13116

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3908 in pharo: Fix for pool variables references

by Igor Stasenko

On 29 March 2011 17:44, <pharo(a)googlecode.com> wrote: > Updates: > Â Â Â Â Status: FixToInclude > Â Â Â Â Labels: Milestone-1.3 Importance-High > > Comment #1 on issue 3908 by siguc...(a)gmail.com: Fix for pool variables > references > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3908 > > (No comment was entered for this change.) > > > Finally i could navigate all uses of shared variables (class vars and pool vars), by simply pressing cmd-shift-n ! Its been years since i looked for that feature.. and fix was quite simple. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 29, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3908 in pharo: Fix for pool variables references

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #2 on issue 3908 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: Fix for pool variables references http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3908 in 13117

March 29, 2011